Future Russian army could deploy anywhere in the world – in 7 hours

[Khalid Newazi]

Supersonic 200 tons payload

That's what the reports said, also the Tu-160 travels at supersonic speed.

Max production rate of T-90 was 62 units a year. Since Armata is much more expensive and complicated hardly its rate will be higher => no more than 350 tanks by the end of 2020.

T-90 was a failed project as it wasn't up to a satisfactory level as required by the Russians (wasn't much of an improvement of the T-72s) and thus production was slowed down. T-72 tanks are old and thus needs to be replaced, so they came up with the Armata project. Expect it to be put into production, after all the T-90's production was stopped because of this project.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

There were articles that over 2500 Armatas would be in service by 2020 which was pure fantasy,this cargo plane barely sits on the drawing board,you'll never see it by 2024,maybe 2034,but by then it will be to late as Russia won't be around no more and the new,much smaller Muscovy Republic won't have the cash for such programs.The Russians always like to talk big to impress the gullible.

dude, seriously get a life.

This entire article is pure fantasy.

Even the US can't deploy a rapid combat effective force in that time frame, and we're talking about the greatest superpower in the world having more than 600 military bases around the world.



He gave you his opinion just like you gave him his. Except yours is less believable.

FORMER great super power.

 

[500]

That's what the reports said, also the Tu-160 travels at supersonic speed.

Tu-160 has 40 t max payload and it has very narrow hull, not suited for cargo. So for 200 t u would need a plane 5 times bigger than Tu-160. Can u imagine that? And Tu-160 was so hell expensive that even USSR could built only 27 of it.

T-90 was a failed project as it wasn't up to a satisfactory level as required by the Russians (wasn't much of an improvement of the T-72s) and thus production was slowed down. T-72 tanks are old and thus needs to be replaced, so they came up with the Armata project. Expect it to be put into production, after all the T-90's production was stopped because of this project.

T-90 was very successful project. It was well exported and this allowed to reduce costs.Production of Armata will be way much more problematic and expensive.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Really and what would that be (my opinion), him having hate for Russia.

The entire article.

Here:

“It means for the first time we have the objective of creating an operational capability to airlift a full-fledged army to any desired place on the planet,” the source said. This means delivering a task force the size of the former NATO and the US troops in Iraq, in a matter of hours to any continent. “In the context of the current military doctrine that defies comprehension,” the source said.

Coalition troops in Iraq numbered around 200,000.

Someone do the math here.

80 PAK TAs deploying 200,000 troops with the variable assortments, (logistics) to, lets say Mali, how long will that take?

Moscow to Mali is 3843.9 miles. The PAK TA flies 1242.7 mph will take 6 hours round trip and require 1 refueling.

Lets say it takes 1 hour to refuel and load a PAK TA with troops that's really ambitious.

My collegiate math ends here.

FORMER great super power.

Please continue to enlighten us.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Please continue to enlighten us.

yr not a super power anymore.

 

[flamer84]

yr not a super power anymore.

They are and not only that.They're the only super power in the world.

 

[jammersat]

Tanks are useless the Russians have already proved this point themselves.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

yr not a super power anymore.

You already posted that before, please continue your thesis.

 

[jammersat]

meanwhile 600 is busy number crunching:

 

[vostok]

PAK-TA defenitly will be subsonic.

 

[atatwolf]

How is Iran the laughing stock of the military community? While countries like Iraq get a$$-kicked by ISIS, Saudi and Yemeni soldiers can't beat Iran trained militia (Houthi), Egyptian and other Arab armies suffered embarrassing defeats at the hands of Israel, whereas another Iran trained militia Hezbollah were able to kick them out of Lebanon. See the trait, Iran has a very well trained Army and if your Army lacks training and discipline, your weapons and equipmen don't matter a bit.



Really and what would that be (my opinion), him having hate for Russia.

I was talking about so-called Iranian tech and military products. People were laughing for months at the Iranian Qhaher 313 so called 5th jet . Anyway, I don't think Iran's army is any less laughable. They train good terrorists. In lebanon those terrorists did a good job against Israel but in a regular conventional war Iran would be smacked so hard. It wouldn't be even funny. All of their equipment is basically 30 years old.

 

[jammersat]

All of their equipment is basically 30 years old.

Almost 36 by now

 

[Khalid Newazi]

Tu-160 has 40 t max payload and it has very narrow hull, not suited for cargo. So for 200 t u would need a plane 5 times bigger than Tu-160. Can u imagine that? And Tu-160 was so hell expensive that even USSR could built only 27 of it.

Tu-160 was an old model that was designed decades ago, remember the Sr-71, it was put out of service because it was way ahead of its time, the painting couldn't keep up with the speed of the plane.

T-90 was very successful project. It was well exported and this allowed to reduce costs.Production of Armata will be way much more problematic and expensive.

T-90 was only a success for export, it wasn't much different than the latest version of the T-72 used by the Russians. It wasn't a wise decision to replace the T-72 with a tank that isn't that much different.

Coalition troops in Iraq numbered around 200,000.

Someone do the math here.

80 PAK TAs deploying 200,000 troops with the variable assortments, (logistics) to, lets say Mali, how long will that take?

Moscow to Mali is 3843.9 miles. The PAK TA flies 1242.7 mph will take 6 hours round trip and require 1 refueling.

Lets say it takes 1 hour to refuel and load a PAK TA with troops that's really ambitious.

My collegiate math ends here.

If you are going to a full scale war, you need a huge amount of troops, ammunition and equipment and there is no way you can transport such huge amount of assets through air. Air travel is done for strategic reasons, such as securing a supply route or an enemy storage.

 

[500]

Tu-160 was an old model that was designed decades ago

Aerodynamics did not change since then. If u want to carry 200 t u will need 5 times bigger plane which will be tens times more expensive.

Thats why no one is working on supersonic passengers or cargos anymore.

T-90 was only a success for export, it wasn't much different than the latest version of the T-72 used by the Russians. It wasn't a wise decision to replace the T-72 with a tank that isn't that much different.

Why u need different? Different means maintenance headache. One of the biggest reasons why T-90 is such a an export success is that countries with T-72 bought T-90.

 

[Genesis]

Armata will enter service by 2016 and will have over a thousand of those by 2020 (2,700 is expected). An-225 was flown on 1988 and it could carry 300 tonnes of weight, 2020 has a lot of years in between. But I don't think it can carry 400 tanks, at most tenth of it.

A "FLEET fleet of heavy transport aircraft will reportedly be capable of moving a strategic unit of 400 Armata tanks, with ammunition, to anywhere in the world."

Not each

There were articles that over 2500 Armatas would be in service by 2020 which was pure fantasy,this cargo plane barely sits on the drawing board,you'll never see it by 2024,maybe 2034,but by then it will be to late as Russia won't be around no more and the new,much smaller Muscovy Republic won't have the cash for such programs.The Russians always like to talk big to impress the gullible.

Russia may actually do it, they place a pretty big importance on military. I don't think it's the smart thing to do, but seeing the way Russia increases spending, and sets aside money for gear, it's not impossible.

Especially since they might be at war.

T-90 was very successful project. It was well exported and this allowed to reduce costs.Production of Armata will be way much more problematic and expensive.

I thought the T-90 was a upgraded T-72, so, not a great design for the 21st century. Either way, if there's one country with the political will to pull it off, it's America, but Russia will be close.