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Britain’s nail-biting election, and the fragile coalition government it seems likely to produce, are confirming many of Washington’s worst fears about the country’s dwindling influence in the world.

Once the US’ most reliable ally, the UK is now seen as a distant player in the crisis over the Ukraine and the euro, has introduced swingeing cuts to its military and recently rebuffed Washington by joining a China-led bank.

On top of that, the Obama administration is waking up to the prospect that the next government in London could be even more inward-looking as it grapples with Britain’s membership of the European Union and
strong support for Scottish independence.

US officials say they still value close intelligence and military ties with the UK, but at times sound almost dismissive about the current British government’s reluctance to play a bigger role in the world.
“They are still one of our first phone calls but there are times when they just do not seem that engaged,” says a senior administration official.

The fabled “special relationship” between Washington and London has always contained an element of hype that played to Britain’s postcolonial quest for relevance. Successive US administrations have valued Britain’s role as a bridge between North America and the EU, as a mediator within Nato and as a reliable supporter in times of crisis.

“Until recently, Britain was very much our most trusted, dependable and capable ally,” says Nicholas Burns, a former US ambassador to Nato and third-ranking official at the state department, who worries that Britain might soon no longer play a “central role in global affairs”.
“It is very striking the way that Angela Merkel has become the undisputed leader of Europe,” he said.
British officials demur that Germany was always going to be the dominant voice in discussions over the euro — of which the UK is not a member — and even over Ukraine, given its greater proximity and ties with Russia.

But American anxiety about British relevance is also based on the major reductions in the British military, which has seen the army cut from 102,000 to 82,000 and has left the navy without a functioning aircraft carrier.

Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the UN, has called the defence cuts in the UK and other parts of Europe “very concerning”, while General Ray Odierno, head of the US army, said last month that the smaller British force meant the Pentagon would have to make adjustments “to see that we can still work together”.
The worry in Washington is that election results will only further British disengagement. President Barack Obama has a reasonably close and personal relationship with British prime minister David Cameron and would not relish having to establish a rapport with a new leader, especially given the predictions that the next British government might be shortlived.

It has not gone unnoticed in Washington that Labour leader Ed Miliband’s recent foreign policy speech barely mentioned the US or that he has been making a virtue of his 2013 opposition to US air strikes in Syria. “Standing up to the leader of the free world shows a certain amount of toughness,” he said last month.

However, Mr Cameron has promised a referendum on Britain’s place in the EU — something the US sees as central to London’s international influence — and the one certainty about the election results seems to be a new debate about Scotland’s place within the UK.

Some analysts also believe Mr Cameron might have to make additional cuts to the military in order to meet his budget targets. Frank Hoffman, at the National Defense University in Washington, says he doubts that “the UK is turning inward in a strategic sense”. But he also believes that further cuts would mean “Britain’s claim as a major power will be more precarious than it has been in hundreds of years”.

The frustrations in Washington with Mr Cameron’s government burst into the open last month when a senior US official accused the UK of “constant accommodation” of China after London decided to join the Beijing-based Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.

Mr Obama himself has also been accused of looking to disengage from parts of America’s traditional role in the world and one former senior US official said that the president had not been helped by Mr Cameron’s international reticence. He pointed to Margaret Thatcher’s famous warning to George HW Bush after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990 that he should not “go wobbly”.

The former US official continued: “Obama has at times looked lost and it would have helped him to have a stronger British prime minister who could have given him some direction.”

@mike2000 is back ,Feeling like a dumped ex girlfriend?:lol::lol::lol:
 
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Britain’s nail-biting election, and the fragile coalition government it seems likely to produce, are confirming many of Washington’s worst fears about the country’s dwindling influence in the world.

It is "non-existent" influence. Nobody cares about england anymore.
 
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Britain’s nail-biting election, and the fragile coalition government it seems likely to produce, are confirming many of Washington’s worst fears about the country’s dwindling influence in the world.

Once the US’ most reliable ally, the UK is now seen as a distant player in the crisis over the Ukraine and the euro, has introduced swingeing cuts to its military and recently rebuffed Washington by joining a China-led bank.

On top of that, the Obama administration is waking up to the prospect that the next government in London could be even more inward-looking as it grapples with Britain’s membership of the European Union and
strong support for Scottish independence.

US officials say they still value close intelligence and military ties with the UK, but at times sound almost dismissive about the current British government’s reluctance to play a bigger role in the world.
“They are still one of our first phone calls but there are times when they just do not seem that engaged,” says a senior administration official.

The fabled “special relationship” between Washington and London has always contained an element of hype that played to Britain’s postcolonial quest for relevance. Successive US administrations have valued Britain’s role as a bridge between North America and the EU, as a mediator within Nato and as a reliable supporter in times of crisis.

“Until recently, Britain was very much our most trusted, dependable and capable ally,” says Nicholas Burns, a former US ambassador to Nato and third-ranking official at the state department, who worries that Britain might soon no longer play a “central role in global affairs”.
“It is very striking the way that Angela Merkel has become the undisputed leader of Europe,” he said.
British officials demur that Germany was always going to be the dominant voice in discussions over the euro — of which the UK is not a member — and even over Ukraine, given its greater proximity and ties with Russia.

But American anxiety about British relevance is also based on the major reductions in the British military, which has seen the army cut from 102,000 to 82,000 and has left the navy without a functioning aircraft carrier.

Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the UN, has called the defence cuts in the UK and other parts of Europe “very concerning”, while General Ray Odierno, head of the US army, said last month that the smaller British force meant the Pentagon would have to make adjustments “to see that we can still work together”.
The worry in Washington is that election results will only further British disengagement. President Barack Obama has a reasonably close and personal relationship with British prime minister David Cameron and would not relish having to establish a rapport with a new leader, especially given the predictions that the next British government might be shortlived.

It has not gone unnoticed in Washington that Labour leader Ed Miliband’s recent foreign policy speech barely mentioned the US or that he has been making a virtue of his 2013 opposition to US air strikes in Syria. “Standing up to the leader of the free world shows a certain amount of toughness,” he said last month.

However, Mr Cameron has promised a referendum on Britain’s place in the EU — something the US sees as central to London’s international influence — and the one certainty about the election results seems to be a new debate about Scotland’s place within the UK.

Some analysts also believe Mr Cameron might have to make additional cuts to the military in order to meet his budget targets. Frank Hoffman, at the National Defense University in Washington, says he doubts that “the UK is turning inward in a strategic sense”. But he also believes that further cuts would mean “Britain’s claim as a major power will be more precarious than it has been in hundreds of years”.

The frustrations in Washington with Mr Cameron’s government burst into the open last month when a senior US official accused the UK of “constant accommodation” of China after London decided to join the Beijing-based Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.

Mr Obama himself has also been accused of looking to disengage from parts of America’s traditional role in the world and one former senior US official said that the president had not been helped by Mr Cameron’s international reticence. He pointed to Margaret Thatcher’s famous warning to George HW Bush after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990 that he should not “go wobbly”.

The former US official continued: “Obama has at times looked lost and it would have helped him to have a stronger British prime minister who could have given him some direction.”

@mike2000 is back ,Feeling like a dumped ex girlfriend?:lol::lol::lol:
Most people her are in favour of strong relations with the US but not at the price of any more costly military adventures.

And what good has that permanent seat done for you? Your country is a piece of smelly, rotten antique that has no place in 21st century world.
I shouldn't have said what was posted here. I'm only against one particular poster not India as a whole.
 
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Smelly? That's a bit rich coming from a country that s**** in the street.

No my friend. What is rich is that hundreds of thousands of Indians have migrated to england and turning it into another India. LOL!!!

And grow up pal, your country is history. England does not have an economy, no resource or even the military muscle to have any influence whatsoever on the international domain.

Most people her are in favour of strong relations with the US but not at the price of any more costly military adventures.

England has no option but obey USA. That's how the relationship has been.
 
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No my friend. What is rich is that hundreds of thousands of Indians have migrated to england and turning it into another India. LOL!!!

And grow up pal, your country is history. England does not have an economy, no resource or even the military muscle to have any influence whatsoever on the international domain.
A large proportion of these are Sikhs who identify with Khalistan not India.
And the British economy is 50 percent larger than the Indian economy. This is despite having less than one twentieth of India's population.
List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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A large proportion of these are Sikhs who identify with Khalistan not India.
And the British economy is 50 percent larger than the Indian economy. This is despite having less than one twentieth of India's population.

That is your consolation? That the Sikhs identify with Khalistan and not India? So what, they don't identify themselves with england or english values either. Do they go to the church or follow their own religion?

British economy is artificial and based on 200+ years of colonialism. England does not have iron ore, coal, oil or anything of substance. Precisely the reason why english economy is degrading year after year since the colonies became independent.

Is that why we refused to intervene in Syria and joined the AIIB bank?

LOL!! As if england has the resources to intervene in Syria. And joing AIIB means you switching from following US to following China. Kind of ironical because China used to be an english colony.
 
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Kind of ironical because China used to be an english colony.
Shows how much you know about history. Hong Kong, a tiny group of islands, used to be a British colony not China. How could anybody rule the whole of China you fool?
 
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Shows how much you know about history. Hong Kong, a tiny group of islands, used to be a British colony not China. How could anybody rule the whole of China you fool?

Of course it is beyond england to conquer china, there were other european shareholders plus japan. And who was selling opium in china and fighting the boxers?
 
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A large proportion of these are Sikhs who identify with Khalistan not India.
And the British economy is 50 percent larger than the Indian economy. This is despite having less than one twentieth of India's population.
List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I stayed in UK for 2 years. I thoroughly enjoyed my stay. I liked you as a nation and respect your British integrity.

Everywhere you find some awkward people. I was also bullied by some people near Cardiff as "****". But I never mind. I remember my overall stay in UK as a great stay much superior compared to my US stay. Must of British and Scottish people are nice.

But I must say , you need change your national strategy to adapt with changing world of 21st century
 
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I would not agree with the article. UK is still one of the largest economies in the world. What is bad with UK is that it is not able to assert itself like Germans are doing.

@ Steve781 UK economy may be larger than India's. But I guess that won't be true in next 10 years or so. What world sees in not the past glory but future potential.

UK has lot of strengths like the English language, excellent capital markets,a multicultural society that is second only to US and influence across common wealth countries, but your politicians are letting you down. None of them has vision. The need of the hour is someone who can take UK to the next level.
 
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