From Hero To Zero

[illuminatidinesh]

Why are so many people insecure of this guy?

Anna is a woman; a drama queen indeed.

Anna is just another Indian clown who will be brushed aside in short time. It seems the circus is coming to an end, wonder which Indian will put on the next show.

Never try to understand what other people suffer from...... This Indian clown has sown seed in to the minds of so many common man, expecting results overnight is not sensible. But then you wont understand that anyway.

Eversince I grew up I have been reading and hearing that democracy is the best form of government, a solution to all evils, a source of empowerment to common man. I have also read that India is said to be the largest democracy (probably because of polulation), why then it takes 60 years and requires one individual to ptotest and go on hunger strike to get something done? Does this indicate that democracy is not what it is said to be?

Atleast this is my experience in Pakistan. Whenever there is democratic government, there is more corruption, more unrest, more unemployment, and lower economic activity. Is it because in democracy there are more thieves to plunder national wealth every five years as compared to one man rule (Kingdom/dictatorship), where there is onle one/fewer thieves for a longer period.

One has to feel what is democracy to realize its power...... I dont blame u, I pity U.

 

[Polemos]

Democracy takes a lot of time to fully mature. Especially in complex third world countries.

Thats true. Its also true that any system other than democracy is impractical for a complex "developing" country. "Third world" smacks of a western patronizing, the modern equivalent of the white mans burden.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

This is the beauty of democracy. People can make you a hero and then the next day they can make you zero. People rulez in democracy

What you said is not democracy, it's populism. Populism is what makes democracy weak and ineffective because it arouses the emotion and not the rationality of the masses.

 

[T90TankGuy]

while i did not support his methods , i was for anti corruption. but hated when they turned political . he lost his base with the educated middle class when he started to only target the congress. (i would have even supported him had he targeted the other political parties too. when he went to Bangalore he never said one word about yeddy . its this cheery picking and biased nature which led to his downfall)
his team members like kiran bedi and arving kejerawal did not help either.
a lot of people in India can distinguish between a genuine person with no personal vendetta and one who has political motives.

another mistake of anna was to let him self be swayed with the media attention he got earlier . thinking he would be untouchable , forgetting the media will build you up and then destroy you just as soon as they feel like it .

 

[IndoCarib]

He is right in suspending his fast for health reasons. The govt was passing a weak bill after all. Even this weak bill is likely to collapse now

No point in passing this 'completely useless' bill: Team Anna - The Times of India

Anna is still a hero.

 

[John Doe]

Grit grinds with Grain, hence one shouldn't resort to Cherry pickings

Forget Anna Hazare, please just tell me what this sentence means !!!!!!!!

 

[livingdead]

Sadly he is a good man, and has considerable popular support, he is not zero.
Always be afraid of good well meaning man screwing things up, because you cant even blame them.

 

[EjazR]

On Anna Hazare himself, I was also sympathetic to him earlier but I think his advisors in particular Bedi and Kerijwal have an axe to grind against the Congress and that too in particular with just the two Gandhis. For example, stating that only these two are causing all corruptions is laughable when we know that majority of the corruption happens in the lower bueracracy level. And all political parties are involved in look from BSP, BJP, SP, SAD too TC, DMK, AIDMK and ofcourse Congress.

Infact, what is shocking is that Bedi and Kerijwal wanted to the old man to continue his fast despite having a fever and suffering problems in his kidneys. And despite his village folk asking him to cancel it.

And now, Kiran Bedi is targeting the media suddenly for people having lost faith in them instead of learning and aiming for a more neutral and balanced approach rather than being political.
Bitter at low turnout, Bedi blasts media for fiasco

what did not happen in the past 60 years of our history has happened today , i am talking about the passing of the lokpal bill in lok sabha , this would have never happened it anna hazare wouldn't have protested for it , the only disappointment would be that it will not be a strong bill , so he is still a hero , and lets not forget that we have a law called RTI because of this man .

Well thanks to lack of support from BJP and other parties we might not see Lokpal becoming law and that means no Lokpal for a couple of more decades. None of the regional parties want Lokyuktas and suprisingly BJP has also fought tooth and nail opposing this aspect after initially supporting it. I think when the push came to shove, all parties have been exposed on their stand

The RTI act has a well documented history and Anna Hazare was no more than a foot note. The entire bill that became law in 2005 was actually based on Aruna Roy's NCPRI's leg work and agitation by Mazdoor Kisan Shakti Sangathan in Rajasthan. Both NCPRI and MKSS are inter-related and sister organisations.

Based on the sucess of Rajasthan, Sonia Gandhi roped in Aruna Roy into her newly consituted NAC and used her draft after consultations as the RTI ACt (2005).

If anyone needs credit from the civil society for bringing the RTI act it has to be Aruna Roy and her team. Prashan Bhusan was also involved in the drafting process who is part of the current Team Anna group.

However, Kerijwal, Kiran Bedi or Anna Hazare were no where when this bill was being drafted debated and passed. You can check out its history here
The South Asian: History of Right to Information

 

[acetophenol]

Self delete

 

[Thorough Pro]

Why are so many people insecure of this guy?
Never try to understand what other people suffer from...... This Indian clown has sown seed in to the minds of so many common man, expecting results overnight is not sensible. But then you wont understand that anyway.

One has to feel what is democracy to realize its power...... I dont blame u, I pity U.

And that's all you can come up with? If you can't come up with an intelligent answer, don't feel compelled to brain fart.

 

[harshad]

he ended his fast as he was not getting the support he was expecting and hence he called off the jail bharo andolan as well,thats the fact
it was not the right time to go on a hunger strike or protest,the strategy of team anna failed big time,the lokpal bill was being discussed and there was no reason to pressure the government it could always be done later after seeing the results of the bill
so he became zero from a hero not literally but surely it was a failed strategy

 

[Thorough Pro]

But some of the worst defeats and actions in Pakistan have also happened during Military rule.

1. 1971 (Yahya Khan)
2. Siachen 1984 (Zia)
3. Participation in WOT..(Musharraf)

I have to disagree on all three accounts.

1971 was the result of so calleddemocractic party "PPP"
1984 - defeat in what sense? India tried to occupy the Pakistani controlled area and Pakistan responded.
WOT - Participation in WOT had nothing to do with millitary government, that was an iternational tragedy and Pakistan being a peaceful and responsible state is part of that. Musharf however gave to much leeway to Americans though.

 

[Manas]

From Hero to Zero: Media Now Pans Hazare - India Real Time - WSJ

Not so fast .

Corrupt indian politicians would give Anna ample opportunity to come back bigger than before.

Yesterday congress pary proved perfidious by putting the Lokpal Bill to back burner as soon as team Anna called their agitations.