Frequency of Mitochondrial haplogroups of tribes living Mansehra and Abbotabad District

[Pakistani E]

The frequency of observed haplogroups in seven tribes of Mansehra and Abbottabad Districts were compared with reported haplogroups in Pakistani populations (Table 9). The highly matched haplogroup is megahaplogroup N. The haplogroups H, HV and M are matched too to a greater extent. Megahaplogroup R found in ethnic groups of the study area match the people with Pathan and Pakistani populations. The other haplogroups matched very little. The haplogroup T was only recorded in Awan population.

It may be of interest to some.

 

[Pakistani E]

Examination of the biodiversity among and in between the living ethnic groups of Northern Pakistan suggests a fundamental split between Karlals, Gujars and Syeds. Among the remaining ethnic groups, affinities are consistently close between the two geographically distinct samples of Wakhis, which confirms Wakhis at least has retained the self-identifying ethnic identities and can easily be taken as a standard for identification and differentiation.

In case for Awans all the analyses indicate that the phenetic affinities between the samples collected even from different villages of Mansehra District are not that clear which can be taken as standard for the group. The samples of Khowars are interposed in between the Awans as visible in figure 11. Neighbor-joining cluster analysis and MDS with Kruskal’s method indicate that sample of Awans (AWAm2) is much more proximate phenetically to Khowars, than the sample of Awans collected by Hemphill (AWAm1).

The Principle Coordinate analysis shows that the sample of Awans collected by Hemphill (AWAm1) is identified as possessing closer affinities to Khowar than the samples of Awans (AWAm2) collected and analyzed during the present study. All analyses indicate that the Awans samples link Awans to the Swatis and Madaklasht on the one hand and to the two Wakhi samples on the other. Analysis through MDS and PCO indicates that the affinities between AWAm1 and Swatis are much closer than the affinity between the sample of Awans and the inhabitants of Madaklasht. All analyses, except PCO indicate that the samples 109 of Wakhis from Gulmit (WAKg) are more similar phenetically to Hemphill’s sample of Awans than is the sample of Wakhis from Sost.

A synthesis from our results analyzed with the available information shows that the ethnic groups of the northern Pakistan, based on the patterns of their phenetic affinities can be divided into two main groups among which, the Awans, Tanolis and Swatis are affiliated with ethnic groups of the Hindu Kush Himalayan highlands, while Syeds, Karlals and Gujars segregates uniquely and possess no affinities to any of these groups.

The reasonable possibility of the close affinities of Syeds, Karlals and Gujars might be their origin from the same stock in the near past as compared to Awans, Tanolis and Swatis, who inhabit the same area for almost 300 years back. Their aggregations in the 111 same geographic proximity have not distributed their individual gene pools due to their tribal nature and no cross marriages.

The distances among Awan population of the nearly collection sites in Mansehra and their close affinities with the people of far placed Wakhis and Khowars needs further explanations. Furthermore the ethnic groups of peninsular India are most similar to one another and aggregate by geographic region. The prehistoric people of Indus Valley showed no temporal or geographic continuity, nor do they share any affinities with living ethnic groups from Mansehra and Abbottabad.

 

[H!TchHiker]

A synthesis from our results analyzed with the available information shows that the ethnic groups of the northern Pakistan, based on the patterns of their phenetic affinities can be divided into two main groups among which, the Awans, Tanolis and Swatis are affiliated with ethnic groups of the Hindu Kush Himalayan highlands, while Syeds, Karlals and Gujars segregates uniquely and possess no affinities to any of these groups.

The reasonable possibility of the close affinities of Syeds, Karlals and Gujars might be their origin from the same stock in the near past as compared to Awans, Tanolis and Swatis, who inhabit the same area for almost 300 years back. Their aggregations in the 111 same geographic proximity have not distributed their individual gene pools due to their tribal nature and no cross marriages.

The distances among Awan population of the nearly collection sites in Mansehra and their close affinities with the people of far placed Wakhis and Khowars needs further explanations. Furthermore the ethnic groups of peninsular India are most similar to one another and aggregate by geographic region. The prehistoric people of Indus Valley showed no temporal or geographic continuity, nor do they share any affinities with living ethnic groups from Mansehra and Abbottabad.

Interesting ,but still origin of awans are not as determined as of all others....Further awan do marry outside and they are not pure tribal like tanolis and swatis who mostly confined to there areas ..Awans i believe spread in Punjab mostly with some pockets in Peshawar...

 

[Pakistani E]

Interesting ,but still origin of awans are not as determined as of all others....Further awan do marry outside and they are not pure tribal like tanolis and swatis who mostly confined to there areas ..Awans i believe spread in Punjab mostly with some pockets in Peshawar...

The origin of Awans is really a nightmare to determine, even in this study, different groups of Awans are closer to other groups than each other. This may perhaps be pointing to a tribal confederacy and not a single origin group as our folklore tells us.

EDIT: To say Awans are primarily found in Punjab would be factually incorrect, last time I checked, there were over a million Awans in KPK.

 

[H!TchHiker]

The origin of Awans is really a nightmare to determine, even in this study, different groups of Awans are linked to other groups than each other. This may perhaps be pointing to a tribal confederacy and not a single origin group as our folklore tells us.

EDIT: To say Awans are primarily found in Punjab would be factually incorrect, last time I checked, there were over a million Awans in KPK.

Yes i mean vast majority lives in Punjab....May be they mingle among the local and develop this close relationship as pointed out in study....I think it can't be tribal since they don't have branches likes other tribal people .They don't have sub tribes
Interesting thing that awan in attock have khel system..and they usually remember it for e.g faqir khel and wali khel, mosa khel, haso khel

 

[Pakistani E]

Yes i mean vast majority lives in Punjab....May be they mingle among the local and develop this close relationship as pointed out in study....I think it can't be tribal since they don't have branches likes other tribal people .They don't have sub tribes
Interesting thing that awan in attock have khel system..and they usually remember it for e.g faqir khel and wali khel, mosa khel, haso khel

Yeah you are right in that sense, but they do have sub-clans like Trer and Artakhian etc. And like you mentioned, it is very interesting indeed that they seem to adapt the local traditions in which ever area they live in to name themselves.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Yeah you are right in that sense, but they do have sub-clans like Trer and Artakhian etc. And like you mentioned, it is very interesting indeed that they seem to adapt the local traditions in which ever area they live in to name themselves.

Also, i am unable to find anyone having his DNA to have some clue...I remember reading somewhere about Arain and there ancestry results which proves quite contrary what they used to claim..

 

[Pakistani E]

@H!TchHiker Someone seriously needs to find the Awans of Afghanistan and see how they live etc. It would be very interesting to know their own traditions about their origins and how they got in to Afghanistan.

 

[H!TchHiker]

@H!TchHiker Someone seriously needs to find the Awans of Afghanistan and see how they live etc. It would be very interesting to know their own traditions about their origins and how they got in to Afghanistan.

I have not find anyone ..I know mostly from Mianwali and attock...Those in Mianwali have some dance something called darres or Jhummer not exactly remembered...It may be local or cultural is not confirmed

 

[Pakistani E]

Also, i am unable to find anyone having his DNA to have some clue...I remember reading somewhere about Arain and there ancestry results which proves quite contrary what they used to claim..

I do have my DNA tested but I do not use it as a benchmark since my family is very mixed and I'm only Awan from my paternal side, with the haplogroup J-M241. Don't know if any other Awan has been tested or have similar Y-Haplogroup.

 

[H!TchHiker]

I do have my DNA tested but I do not use it as a benchmark since my family is very mixed and I'm only Awan from my paternal side, with the haplogroup J-M241. Don't know if any other Awan has been tested or have similar Y-Haplogroup.

Don't know much about it ..I must admit how do they interpret this ?other then that this haplogroup resemble or find in other people ..of different caste or region..

 

[Pakistani E]

I have not find anyone ..I know mostly from Mianwali and attock...Those in Mianwali have some dance something called darres or Jhummer not exactly remembered...It may be local or cultural is not confirmed

My grandfather's village is in Khushab, and I am not sure about dances but they are very conservative. They look down on people who dance/sing and usually only mirasis etc dance at their weddings. They prefer to shoot in the air instead.

Don't know much about it ..I must admit how do they interpret this ?other then that this haplogroup resemble or find in other people ..of different caste or region..

Very simplified answer, Y-Haplogroup is passed down from father to son and is defined by the Y-Chromosome. Vice versa for Mitochondria. Then they can see which Haplogroup is prevalent in which area of the world. Again, a very simplified version.

 

[H!TchHiker]

My grandfather's village is in Khushab, and I am not sure about dances but they are very conservative. They look down on people who dance/sing and usually only mirasis etc dance at their weddings. They prefer to shoot in the air instead.



Very simplified answer, Y-Haplogroup is passed down from father to son and is defined by the Y-Chromosome. Vice versa for Mitochondria. Then they can see which Haplogroup is prevalent in which area of the world. Again, a very simplified version.

Lol yes Marrasi and other un-called words which better not to spoke...Every awan has its own story of origin with respect to there geography and place they lived in...I think there is no detailed study too like in case of Arain..
Interesting thing is i read today that Sultan Bahu was too awan ..So defiantly awan are not new to this area..

 

[Pakistani E]

Lol yes Marrasi and other un-called words which better not to spoke...Every awan has its own story of origin with respect to there geography and place they lived in...I think there is no detailed study too like in case of Arain..
Interesting thing is i read today that Sultan Bahu was too awan ..So defiantly awan are not new to this area..

Mirasi isn't an insult yar, it's a profession. If people find that offensive, I will withdraw it. As for Arain, I am not too sure. Are you Arain? What are their historical origin claim?

There is no mention of "Awans" per say until the 16th century, but their numbers are too big to have come here within the last few centuries without being noticed, if they only came as recently as a few centuries ago as they claim.

Most likely an older population, I personally think they were part of the original wave of settlers from West Asia, but difficult to say with little evidence to back it up.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Mirasi isn't an insult yar, it's a profession. If people find that offensive, I will withdraw it. As for Arain, I am not too sure. Are you Arain? What are their historical origin claim?

There is no mention of "Awans" per say until the 16th century, but their numbers are too big to have come here within the last few centuries without being noticed, if they only came as recently as a few centuries ago as they claim.

Most likely an older population, I personally think they were part of the original wave of settlers from West Asia, but difficult to say with little evidence to back it up.

No, i am not Arain.....
Marasi is profession you are right..But people often used it in bad term...