French Expect Massive Orders for Rafael After Libyan Bombing campaign...

[luckyyy]

couldn't get , what Rafale has actually done so brillient in libya...

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I think after gaddafi is gone, an opposition govt will be established that'll be pro west but i don't see any new fighter in their inventory. france/west will start with small arms sales to libyans before going for a major sales its going to be a long time investment in libya.

We don't know on the ground damage of Libyan air force by allied air forces. When the full damage report comes in than we can with assurity say how many aircrafts and what types are there on the ground or destroyed.

their AF is either grounded, or ''disabled'' for the time being. Whatever aircrafts they do have left in inventory would probably not be used since the no-fly-zone is now in effect and they are not likely to defy it more than they already have

i'm actually surprised by how little resistance they put up, even though Mirage-F1s are no match for the firepower they would be confronted against....moreover, there were some Libyan AF pilots who defected --along with the aircrafts themselves.

 

[BATMAN]

Lol
Rafale costs more than $120 million a piece, not $15 million. Its not that PAF rejected Rafale on quality factor, they never had that kind of moolah to afford it. And how many F-16s you bought by money and how many you received as military aid?

Where did you get your figures?

Answer to your troll is that we never got our F-16 for which we paid in advance.
We recently received few of those from our original order under FMS.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Where did you get your figures?

Here's your reply, a fully loaded Rafale costs more than $140 million a piece.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/articles/communiques/FighterCostFinalJuly06.pdf

 

[Jango]

why the hell does UAE adn qatar need rafales....they already have F16 typhoons and F15's.....but they dont have any training area...they go to saudia to train@!!@!!~!

 

[typhoon77]

why the hell does UAE adn qatar need rafales....they already have F16 typhoons and F15's.....but they dont have any training area...they go to saudia to train@!!@!!~!

The same reason Saudi Arabia need 80 new F-15's... recycle oil $$$. The UAE and Qatar don't operate Typhoon's or F 15's don't know where you get your info form. Also, you realize how small Qatar and the UAE are? They don't have the space for dedicated training areas for their air force/ armed forces. That's why they go to Saudi Arabia.

 

[LeGenD]

their AF is either grounded, or ''disabled'' for the time being. Whatever aircrafts they do have left in inventory would probably not be used since the no-fly-zone is now in effect and they are not likely to defy it more than they already have

US Military: Libyan Air Force Destroyed | Africa | English

i'm actually surprised by how little resistance they put up, even though Mirage-F1s are no match for the firepower they would be confronted against....moreover, there were some Libyan AF pilots who defected --along with the aircrafts themselves.

Cannot blame Libya; massive barrage of cruise missiles (around 200 fired up till now) and air space being scanned by air superiority fighters like F15 - what can you expect?

Furthermore, any Libyan jets that were found on run way or caught flying were instantly destroyed.

 

[below_freezing]

A sick and brutal country that uses war and murder as advertisement for its war machine

 

[gambit]

A sick and brutal country that uses war and murder as advertisement for its war machine

You mean like this...???

Type 56 assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Chinese Type 56 was the standard issue assault rifle of the Chinese military from the late 1950s until the 1980s when it was replaced by the newer Type 81 assault rifle in front line units. Some Chinese Reserve, Militia and Peoples Armed Police units as well as border and customs security troops still use the Type 56 rifle as well as the Type 56 carbine SKS. During the Cold War period, the Type 56 was exported to communist forces in the Third World. Many of these rifles found their way to battlefields in Africa, South-East Asia, and the Middle East during the Cold War era and were used alongside Kalashnikov rifles from both the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations of Eastern Europe.

Guess brutal oppression of one's own citizenry is equally good adverts for other oppressive regimes to buy Chinese AKs, eh?

 

[Skull and Bones]

A sick and brutal country that uses war and murder as advertisement for its war machine

In fact it's sickest for Gaddafi to brutally murder the innocent citizens by dropping bombs from the air.

 

[below_freezing]

You mean like this...???

Type 56 assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Guess brutal oppression of one's own citizenry is equally good adverts for other oppressive regimes to buy Chinese AKs, eh?

the AK is a tool. Tools don't kill, people kill. If it ends up in the hands of terrorists we cannot help that.

Talking about government oppression:

http://www.countercurrents.org/us-chesshyre260504.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

The US has actively supported Osama Bin Laden and is therefore a rogue state.

 

[Skull and Bones]

the AK is a tool. Tools don't kill, people kill.

But arming up any mentally dis-balanced group of people is a crime.

 

[below_freezing]

Balangiga massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Balangiga massacre, as it is known in the Philippines, or the Balangiga affair, as it is known in the United States,[5] was an incident in 1901 during the Philippine-American War where more than forty American soldiers were killed in a surprise guerrilla attack in the town of Balangiga on Samar island. This incident was described as the United States Army's worst defeat since the Battle of the Little Bighorn in 1876.[5][6][7]

The subsequent retaliation by American troops resulted in the killing of 2000–3000[8] Filipinos on Samar, the majority of whom were civilians. The heavy-handed reprisal earned a court-martial for Gen. Jacob H. Smith, who had ordered the killing of everyone ten years old and over. Reprimanded but not formally punished, Smith was forced into retirement from the service because of his conduct.[9]

 

[gambit]

the AK is a tool. Tools don't kill, people kill. If it ends up in the hands of terrorists we cannot help that.

So is the fighter jet.

Talking about government oppression:

America's Brutal Culture Of Unseen Oppression

Kent State shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New York City draft riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

None of those things qualified as 'state oppression'.

The US has actively supported Osama Bin Laden and is therefore a rogue state.

Debunked by bin Laden himself. The evidence has been presented here before. Your continuing to post this lie make you a liar. But we already knew that.

 

[below_freezing]

Osama bin Laden, A.K.A. CIA Asset "Tim Osman"

Bin Laden's, CIA roots. How We Created Our Own Terror