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[Itachi]

China's influence is a function of it's economic prowess. It would be there regardless, even with an East Turkestan in the way.

Besides that, when you take China out of the equation, you have Russia, India and Iran (potentially) teaming up against our interest from time to time. I also don't think China's influence is responsible for Tajikstan hosting Indian bases!

If anything, China's influence sort of balances Russia's and prevents these Stans to be completely reabsorbed into some new Russian colonial sphere of influence. You wouldn't want that would you?

You also should read BW's post #86.....Pakistan ain't getting any favors......it's time Pakistan and Pakistanis get their act straightened out.

 

[Mamluk]

I never said that. Your assumptions are yours to make. But for all of their influence.....why aren't they getting rid of them?

I don't know. I don't know how much leverage China has on Tajikstan for that matter. Maybe a Chinese member can answer that.

 

[Itachi]

Afghanistan is not that cordial a neighbor to Pakistan.

It will be once the Kabuli govt. is no longer. Which is the future right now.

 

[beijingwalker]

Whatever Tajikstan wants to do is strictly their own business.

 

[Itachi]

Maybe a Chinese member can answer that.

"China owes no favors and no country can order China around".....straight from the horses mouth...

Pakistan will have to do its part....

 

[beijingwalker]

It will be once the Kabuli govt. is no longer. Which is the future right now.

Come back and talk when it happens.

"China owes no favors".....straight from the horses mouth...

Pakistan will have to do its part....

That's always what all we all want , Pakistan should always take care of their own interest first. Try not to fight others wars.

 

[Mamluk]

"China owes no favors

I'm not sure why you are surprised. No country owes another country "favors".

We cooperate and work together towards common interest.

 

[Itachi]

Come back and talk when it happens.

Already happening. Not my fault you can't read threads on PDF talking about it.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Priceless! Hindustan keeps finding ways to sink deeper into its own cesspool. How unbelievably stupid they are to keep courting terrorist organisations. None of China's rivals are this stupid and they've been in the great Asiatic game for a lot longer than the amateurs from Gujarat. Please carry on Hindustan. We love it.

 

[Itachi]

I'm not sure why you are surprised. No country owes another country "favors".

We cooperate and work together towards common interest.

I am not, my point was showing you that that airbase doesn't fall under "common interest". However certain Pakistanis like to think like that or not.

 

[Mamluk]

I am not, my point was showing you that that airbase doesn't fall under "common interest". However certain Pakistanis think to like of it or not.

I can bet Chinese government don't appreciate presence of that base next to a troubled province. They probably don't have enough leverage or influence to get rid of it.

 

[beijingwalker]

Already happening. Not my fault you can't read threads on PDF talking about it.

At this moment, Afghanistan is closer to India or Pakistan in relationship?

 

[Itachi]

At this moment, Afghanistan is closer to India or Pakistan in relationship?

The Kabuli govt, which holds no actual power and limited amount of land is with India. The Afghan Taliban which is with Pakistan, controls most of the land and is the future.

You can day dream otherwise though.

The whole reason why it's called the "Kabuli govt." is because it controls only Kabul and some other major cities/region......keyword some....not most, not all, not majority.


Hope your understanding of English got better today.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Bro, I am waiting for it. Quote me please.

Beijingwalker just quoted that source of Dolkun Issa hurling abuse at Pakistan.

This was my post in another thread.

Pakistan stayed out of Uyghur issue due to sympathies for both sides. We love Uyghurs and understand some demands they may have, but we also value China and its sovereignty in its territory.

However our neutrality was just so we can sort our own internal situation out, then we can find out facts of what is going on in Xinjiang.

Chinese government has worked tirelessly to allay fears of Muslim countries about Xinjiang, and they have proven false so many games of CIA and RAW. However West has monopoly on the world media, so the Chinese voice is silenced.

We Muslims are well aware of this situation, as we faced the same roadblocks at every juncture. We have been mischaracterized as something we are not. Every Muslim has to prove he is not terrorist from birth due to the horrible propaganda warfare of the West against us.

Why is it so difficult for us to believe the same is the situation in China?

Where 1-3 million supposed Uyghurs detained unbelievable figures keep getting posted, although UN itself discredited the source of those claims. @beijingwalker can provide sources upon request as he has been tirelessly doing on this forum.

If WUC has declared itself a supporter of the brutal and inhuman mass genocide and mass rape of Kashmiris going on today and since 73 against our Kashmiri blood kin, they have drawn their allegiance to a Hindu fascist state which has made its goal to eradicate the existence of Pakistanis from Earth, then they have made themselves our foe.

The gloves are off now. Kashmir is the red line.

UAE, KSA, or WUC, we will never surrender our Kashmiri blood siblings to a fate worse than death, to perpetual slavery under genocidal Islamophobic regime in India.

WUC is not only using Islam, but they are accomplices with known enemies of Muslims all over the world.

People in Xinjiang identify with India more than they do with Pakistan,

This is not true for the people, maybe for WUC and ETIM.

Pakistanis of GB have intermarried w Uyghurs for centuries. The two cultures are very similar.

First of all, I've never heard we house many Uyghurs. Refugees are welcome but I don't think there's many Uyghurs in Pakistan.

We still house a million or so (I don't recall the exact number.) At one point, we were the favored destination of Uyghurs.

I met many growing up in Pakistan and I really love their culture. They always struck me as very devout and loyal to Islam.

Secondly, WUC is no friend, neither we support them. If situation arises we will help China crush them to protect common interests, not the other way around

WUC is a CIA puppet.

There are 5 ex-Soviet Central Asian states. 4 of them are Turkic. None of them ever voiced concern about Kashmiri cause. Selfish pricks. The other one Tajikstan officially hosts Indian terror air force base. Did you even know that?

A free Uyghur state will be another selfish prick and completely useless. Our land connection to China through Xinjiang is far more valuable.

This mindset is very toxic and not helpful for us.

Pakistan must expand its influence in this direction, as both Allama Iqbal and Ch. Rehmat Ali wanted.

I don't care who their leaders are, they are all the same to me. Useless countries that are good only for some economic engagement.

It's going to be a new Kazakhstan at best or a new Afghanistan at worst.

As someone else said in this board before, there's a whole lot of Muslim countries and people who would not miss us a bit if today India wiped us off the map. Perfectly defines the Central Asian Turks, the Arabs, Iranis, Afghans and North Africans.

This is not true. Do not view Muslims with such contempt. Many people have come to our aid at our worst times.

Whoever gave that statement sounds like someone who does not understand the world outside Pakistan.

Well I'm not too concerned about the country that hosts Indian bases.

This is a gross mischaracterization of our friend, Tajikstan.

Chinese Troops Deployed in Tajikistan Stuns Indian Central Asian Ambitions?

As per reports in the Washington Post, Chinese troops have been posted on Tajikistan’s south-eastern border across Afghanistan’s Wakhan corridor. India has unsuccessfully attempted to establish its own military base in Tajikistan for over a decade. Will Ayni Airbase in Tajikistan Become India’s...

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India’s air base at Farkhor, Tajikistan — its only foreign airbase — is sorely deficient in this regard. India started operating the base in 2002 with Russian acquiescence. But with no active combat squadrons, the airbase does not provide India with an alternative attack route against Pakistan or the ability to affect militant operations in Kashmir. The base’s main function is to transport India’s relief and reconstruction supplies into Afghanistan. India airlifts resources to Tajikistan’s Ayni air force base near Dushanbe, then transports material 150 kilometres to Farkhor, where it is then trucked to Afghanistan.

Without China, you think Pakistan can control Central Asia? it will most likely become an Indian sphere of influence.

Yes, we can. Central Asia has traditionally been very close to Pakistan historically.

Even with China's strong containment against India, India's influence is still bigger in Afghanistan and all central Asian stan countries than Pakistan's, this's the reality.

That is because Pakistan adopted an isolationist policy, which alienated Pakistan and gave India free rein.

That was only because of the corrupt US puppet governments who tried to destroy Pakistan from within after the assassination of Gen Zia by the CIA.

 

[beijingwalker]

The Kabuli govt, which holds no actual power and limited amount of land is with India. The Afghan Taliban which is with Pakistan, controls most of the land and is the future.

You can day dream otherwise though.

The whole reason why it's called the "Kabuli govt." is because it controls only Kabul and some other major cities/region......keyword some....not most, not all, not majority.


Hope your understanding of English got better today.

True or not, what you got from them? Do they support you in UN votings or on your Kashmir stance?