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[Itachi]

You cannot control CIA assets which are both ETIM (TTP ally) and WUC (US, Indian, Dalai Llama ally.)

I told you before brother.. i will post later on this topic.

@Titanium100

WUC supports India in Kashmir as well and calls Pakistan a dysfunctional state which has bad human rights record. They are our enemy.

We'll agree to disagree.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We'll agree to disagree.

There is nothing to disagree, they are clear with their words..

World Uyghur Congress is a Washington-based group of fugitives who are avowed enemies of Pakistan.

@beijingwalker is right about this.

I will post some sources soon, be patient.

 

[beijingwalker]

That's your delusion. Reality is much more favorable.

Pakistan and Turkey houses enough Uyghurs to have a East Turkestan friendly to the rest of us. Your attempts at vilifying the East Turkestan movement and creating a rift between us will not work. Period.

Once East Turkestan is a reality, they'll never support India. Politicians don't matter since they can always change their statements. And it is the lack of Pakistani support which leads the WUC to make such statements.


Any trolls who quote me will be reported, banned and sent back to the Chinese internet.

They've made it very clear.

Stop China-Pakistan nexus to resolve Kashmir question, says Uighur leader
28/08/2020

India should join other global powers to stop China from backing Pakistan and only if the China-Pakistan nexus is broken can the question of Kashmir between New Delhi and Islamabad be resolved, a senior Uighur leader, currently in self-imposed exile in the United States, has said.

He also called Pakistan “a fake democracy, living in the middle ages” and argued that Islamabad was using the religion to fan terrorism in both Kashmir and Afghanistan.

“If we can stop China backing Pakistan, then the question of Jammu and Kashmir can be peacefully solved,” Ilshat Hassan Kokbore, Director of the Chinese Affairs Department of the World Uyghur Congress said.

He was speaking after releasing a 48-page Report on ‘Comparative Study of Human Development and Human Rights in Jammu and Kashmir and Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan’ done by Delhi-headquartered think-tank Law and Society Alliance.

“If we want to find a solution for Uighur and Jammu and Kashmir issues, we need to stop China. The route is in China. This is the number one threat to humanity. Then I am sure, the issues of Jammu and Kashmir and Uighurs would be peacefully solved,” Kokbore said at a webinar on Wednesday evening jointly organised by Defence Capital, an Indian defence and strategic affairs publication.

“I don’t think without China’s support, Pakistan can continue its terrorism. If we counter China, Pakistan will come to the table to find a solution to the Jammu and Kashmir question,” he said.

Calling for India to take up the leadership role to counter China, the Uighur leader said India must support the cause of democracy in China, particularly the movements in Hong Kong, Tibet, and East Turkestan. “If China becomes a democracy, we shall find a solution to the Uighur issue, and India could find a solution to the border issue.”

Kokbore criticised Muslim-majority nations for their silence on the persecution of Uighurs and said that the world has resorted to appeasement of China. “The US is speaking, Europe is speaking, India has started to speak, but we didn’t hear anything from the Islamic and Turkic world. They are all silent. They are going into bilateral agreements with China. We are left with no choice.”

Dijoo also said the Indian government needs to create avenues to produce revenues. “The entire Kashmir is being trapped in drugs abuse now. We need to engage and address the youth. That is how we are going to make a change.”

Yana Mirchandani argued that in the earlier regimes in Jammu and Kashmir, funds allocated by the Indian government were gobbled up by corrupt politicians in the erstwhile state. “The politicians of the erstwhile state and Article 370 of the Indian constitution did not allow the people of Kashmir to bond with the Indian state. That was the reason the Indian Parliament had to do away with Article 370 and the discriminatory Article 35A.”

On the question of unemployment raised by Dijoo, Mirchandani said the Pakistan-sponsored terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir was not allowing foreign investments to come in and the now abrogated Article 370 obstructed the implementation of certain laws inviting investment. “Kashmiris are one of the most talented people in India. But they need to invite private investment in the state to get jobs,” Mirchandani said.

She noted that the Indian Army that was deployed to protect the local population from terror attacks are being stone-pelted by vested interests in the state. “Personal vendettas between two locals that result in crimes are blamed on the Indian Army and the force that is there to protect us is being painted as the villain,” she said.

Mirchandani also talked about the opportunities from tourism that is only possible in Jammu and Kashmir and not in Azad Kashmir or Gilgit-Baltistan due to the enforcement of strict curbs by the Pakistan government in that region.

“The entire Himalayan region is well endowed by natural beauty. Tourism is our main source of income and has taken a hit since the Pulwama terror attack by Pakistan-sponsored terror group.”

Responding to a question on the role of Panchayati Raj institutions in Jammu and Kashmir, she said such institutions shall further establish the trust of Kashmiris in democracy and governance. “We are seeing a wonderful turnout of voters in local body elections. But we have also been seeing targeted killings of Sarpanches in the past few days. Muslim majority voters elected a Hindu sarpanch. So, it is a good way to bring Hindus and Muslims together,” she added.

Stop China-Pakistan nexus to resolve Kashmir question, says Uighur leader

New Delhi: India should join other global powers to stop China from backing Pakistan and only if the China-Pakistan nexus is broken can the question of Kashmir

goachronicle.com

 

[vi-va]

There is nothing to disagree, they are clear with their words..

World Uyghur Congress is a Washington-based group of fugitives who are avowed enemies of Pakistan.

@beijingwalker is right about this.

I will post some sources soon, be patient.

Bro, I am waiting for it. Quote me please.

 

[Itachi]

They've made it very clear.

Stop China-Pakistan nexus to resolve Kashmir question, says Uighur leader
28/08/2020

India should join other global powers to stop China from backing Pakistan and only if the China-Pakistan nexus is broken can the question of Kashmir between New Delhi and Islamabad be resolved, a senior Uighur leader, currently in self-imposed exile in the United States, has said.

He also called Pakistan “a fake democracy, living in the middle ages” and argued that Islamabad was using the religion to fan terrorism in both Kashmir and Afghanistan.

“If we can stop China backing Pakistan, then the question of Jammu and Kashmir can be peacefully solved,” Ilshat Hassan Kokbore, Director of the Chinese Affairs Department of the World Uyghur Congress said.

He was speaking after releasing a 48-page Report on ‘Comparative Study of Human Development and Human Rights in Jammu and Kashmir and Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan’ done by Delhi-headquartered think-tank Law and Society Alliance.

“If we want to find a solution for Uighur and Jammu and Kashmir issues, we need to stop China. The route is in China. This is the number one threat to humanity. Then I am sure, the issues of Jammu and Kashmir and Uighurs would be peacefully solved,” Kokbore said at a webinar on Wednesday evening jointly organised by Defence Capital, an Indian defence and strategic affairs publication.

“I don’t think without China’s support, Pakistan can continue its terrorism. If we counter China, Pakistan will come to the table to find a solution to the Jammu and Kashmir question,” he said.

Calling for India to take up the leadership role to counter China, the Uighur leader said India must support the cause of democracy in China, particularly the movements in Hong Kong, Tibet, and East Turkestan. “If China becomes a democracy, we shall find a solution to the Uighur issue, and India could find a solution to the border issue.”

Kokbore criticised Muslim-majority nations for their silence on the persecution of Uighurs and said that the world has resorted to appeasement of China. “The US is speaking, Europe is speaking, India has started to speak, but we didn’t hear anything from the Islamic and Turkic world. They are all silent. They are going into bilateral agreements with China. We are left with no choice.”

Dijoo also said the Indian government needs to create avenues to produce revenues. “The entire Kashmir is being trapped in drugs abuse now. We need to engage and address the youth. That is how we are going to make a change.”

Yana Mirchandani argued that in the earlier regimes in Jammu and Kashmir, funds allocated by the Indian government were gobbled up by corrupt politicians in the erstwhile state. “The politicians of the erstwhile state and Article 370 of the Indian constitution did not allow the people of Kashmir to bond with the Indian state. That was the reason the Indian Parliament had to do away with Article 370 and the discriminatory Article 35A.”

On the question of unemployment raised by Dijoo, Mirchandani said the Pakistan-sponsored terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir was not allowing foreign investments to come in and the now abrogated Article 370 obstructed the implementation of certain laws inviting investment. “Kashmiris are one of the most talented people in India. But they need to invite private investment in the state to get jobs,” Mirchandani said.

She noted that the Indian Army that was deployed to protect the local population from terror attacks are being stone-pelted by vested interests in the state. “Personal vendettas between two locals that result in crimes are blamed on the Indian Army and the force that is there to protect us is being painted as the villain,” she said.

Mirchandani also talked about the opportunities from tourism that is only possible in Jammu and Kashmir and not in Azad Kashmir or Gilgit-Baltistan due to the enforcement of strict curbs by the Pakistan government in that region.

“The entire Himalayan region is well endowed by natural beauty. Tourism is our main source of income and has taken a hit since the Pulwama terror attack by Pakistan-sponsored terror group.”

Responding to a question on the role of Panchayati Raj institutions in Jammu and Kashmir, she said such institutions shall further establish the trust of Kashmiris in democracy and governance. “We are seeing a wonderful turnout of voters in local body elections. But we have also been seeing targeted killings of Sarpanches in the past few days. Muslim majority voters elected a Hindu sarpanch. So, it is a good way to bring Hindus and Muslims together,” she added.

Stop China-Pakistan nexus to resolve Kashmir question, says Uighur leader

New Delhi: India should join other global powers to stop China from backing Pakistan and only if the China-Pakistan nexus is broken can the question of Kashmir

goachronicle.com

The words of the WUC don't matter. The struggle of equity for the Uyghurs continues.

 

[beijingwalker]

The words of the WUC don't matter. The struggle of equity for the Uyghurs continues.

First,there is no way separatists can get their way in Xinjiang, their number is so tiny and negligible, second Pakistan has enough pro India neighbors, it doesn't really need another one.

 

[Itachi]

First,there is no way separatists can get their way in Xinjiang, their number is so tiny and negligible, second Pakistan has enough pro India neighbors, it doesn't really need another one.

Insurgencies aren't based on numbers but ideas, you can't kill ideas. Other than India and puppet Afghan government, there are no Pakistan hostile neighbors.

The Afghan Taliban already want cordial relationship with Pakistan and would gladly side with the Uyghurs against China upending future and current Chinese investment in Afghanistan and abroad.

And China doesn't need more anti-China nations or groups. So China will do something, just not what you expect it to do.

 

[beijingwalker]

Insurgencies aren't based on numbers but ideas, you can't kill ideas. Other than India and puppet Afghan government, there are no Pakistan hostile neighbors.

The Afghan Taliban already want cordial relationship with Pakistan and would gladly side with the Uyghurs against China upending future and current Chinese investment in Afghanistan and abroad.

And China doesn't need more anti-China nations or groups. So China will do something, just not what you expect it to do.

That's your wishful thinking, no one will side with Xinjiang separatists. No one will bet their future on a lost cause. Pakistan has a reliable supply route from China in case of major conflict with India, losing this supply route will be bad for Pakistan. People in Xinjiang identify with India more than they do with Pakistan, you can check those Uighur videos to find it out, without China's support and supply, Pakistan will be at a very disadvantageous position against India and India will surely quickly explore that weakness.

And China doesn't need more anti-China nations or groups. So China will do something, just not what you expect it to do.

China grows and develops amid a lot of anti China sentiment, it didn't stop China but facilitated China's advancement. besides, that sentiment can be some annoyance but is never fatal to China's very existence, no Chinese neighbors design to annihilate China, China only has some minor, fully solvable issues with some countries. This is not true between India and Pakistan.

 

[Itachi]

People in Xinjiang identify with India more than they do with Pakistan, you can check those Uighur videos to find it out

This shows you know nothing about Xinjiang or Uyghurs. Copy pasting articles and youtube videos won't get you anywhere.

Pakistan has a reliable supply route from China in case of major conflict with India

And what "supply route" are you talking about?? A military one??

Pakistan will be at a very disadvantageous position against India and India will surely quickly explore that weakness.

There is no way WUC or Uyghurs can harm Pakistan or Pakistanis, quite the opposite. The holes in your arguments are quite easy to enlarge. You should quit while you can.

China grows and develops amid a lot of anti China sentiment

That sounds like what Hitler might have said once. No one can live in this world without allies, especially China.

China only has some minor, fully solvable issues with some countries.

Right, Taiwan and the SCS are both "minor" problems.

This is not true between India and Pakistan.

You won't be able to exploit our relationship for your benefit. I know the Chinese are smart but not that much.

 

[beijingwalker]

This shows you know nothing about Xinjiang or Uyghurs. Copy pasting articles and youtube videos won't get you anywhere.

Xinjiang is in China, I had a dozen of Uighur friends from my childhood, we talked much about India but no one mentioned Pakistan as I remembered, how much do you know about them?

 

[Itachi]

Xinjiang is in China, I had a dozen of Uighur friends from my childhood, we talked much about India but no one mentioned Pakistan as I remembered, how much do you know about them?

That doesn't show anything. We all know India has a huge cultural impact on the world due to Bollywood.

When Pakistan does the same, people will talk in the same language towards Pakistan. Having Uyghur friends means nothing. That's like saying racism is ok just because I have black friends.

If your "Uyghur friends" saw what you have written about them and their culture on PDF, I would like to see how long they stay your "friends".

 

[beijingwalker]

And what "supply route" are you talking about?? A military one??

Both military and economic
Karakoram Highway

Karakoram Highway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Itachi]

as I remembered

You're also quite forgetful, truth be told.

 

[beijingwalker]

If your "Uyghur friends" saw what you have written about them and their culture on PDF, I would like to see how long they stay your "friends".

What did I write about them? which part?

That sounds like what Hitler might have said once. No one can live in this world without allies, especially China.

I m not a big fan of the idea of "allies", there are no real allies. and China lives in this world for thousands of years already.

Right, Taiwan and the SCS are both "minor" problems.

Yes, those issues never threaten the very existence of China. unlike Indian and Pakistan feud.

You won't be able to exploit our relationship for your benefit. I know the Chinese are smart but not that much.

We never do, we want India and Pakistan can mend their relations so we can do business together, India is a big market for China.

 

[Itachi]

Both military and economic
Karakoram Highway

Karakoram Highway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The day that land route is closed is the day China will invade India. Pakistan won't have to do anything other than do its part.

What did I write about them? which part?

Let me jog your memory then...

If that's not enough, I'll just show your "Uyghur friends" all your threads on PDF. Especially the ludicrous dancing and praising Xi ones. That'll take them enough time to decide what to think of you.

Oh and I remember this:

You were quite naive back then......sometime before the recent China-India spat at Galwan. Now your only real friend is Pakistan. Others are either neutral or ready to join the US to fight against your influence.