France you got the attention of Pakistan and Kashmir

[PakSword]

France has more to lose to support Pakistan over India.




Of course political/military and economic interests are above anything else,that's how the world works and run,not by emotion. You and I know it. Otherwise Pakistan would condemn China's policies on Uygur,but it doesn't. It has too much to lose to make an enemy of China.

We are just common citizens,we can nothing about it.

Appreciate that you are accepting in a way that there is an issue of human rights..

And you will see many Pakistanis condemning China on Uighyur issue. You can also side with Kashmiris in your individual capacity at least.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Appreciate that you are accepting in a way that there is an issue of human rights..

And you will see many Pakistanis condemning China on Uighyur issue. You can also side with Kashmiris in your individual capacity at least.

It is all BS. All this talk about human rights. We need to do the necessary because we owe it to ourselves.

France openly supports our enemy on every forum. We don't give a crap about their reasons blah blah.

Pakistan should take a stance.

 

[Vergennes]

Appreciate that you are accepting in a way that there is an issue of human rights..

And you will see many Pakistanis condemning China on Uighyur issue. You can also side with Kashmiris in your individual capacity at least.

Human rights is just pushed to pursue personal agendas,in reality nobody cares about human rights in France,not even the government who sends the police and closes its eyes on the massive use of force,grenades,rubber bullet launchers etc. where even the Hong Kong police would look like angels. Just an exemple among others,we are certainly not the best country when it comes to human rights.

And personally I don't have much knowledge about Kashmir,its issues,Pakistan's and India's goals etc.,so I prefer to stay out of it,although the forum allows me a bit to read more about it,because the issue isn't much discussed in France and maybe Europe as a whole.

 

[Mrityunjay Rai]

We do condemn Uyghur treatment privately. Get your facts corrected.

You are a hypocrite that shouts human rights all day long yet turn a blind eye to Indian atrocities.

Secondly, why are you still on this Pakistani defence forum if India is more important? You couldn't find an Indian forum to join?

Why do you criticize privately? only islamic nuclear power dose not have guts to say that on Govt level?

 

[maximuswarrior]

Human rights is just pushed to pursue personal agendas,in reality nobody cares about human rights in France,not even the government who sends the police and closes its eyes on the massive use of force,grenades,rubber bullet launchers etc. where even the Hong Kong police would look like angels.

And personally I don't have much knowledge about Kashmir,its issues,Pakistan's and India's goals etc.,so I prefer to stay out of it,although the forum allows me a bit to read more about it,because the issue isn't much discussed in France and maybe Europe as a whole.

You have been on this forum for years. You fully know about Kashmir conflict. Frankly I don't buy that for a moment.

France has clearly shown it cares more about economic profit than human suffering. That says something about French credibility and lecturing on the world stage.

Why do you criticize privately? only islamic nuclear power dose not have guts to say that on Govt level?

Stupid fool. Our government has conveyed their stance officially. Be it behind closed doors.

Your French buddy does not even have the moral strenght to tell you the right thing behind closed doors.

 

[PakSword]

Human rights is just pushed to pursue personal agendas,in reality nobody cares about human rights in France,not even the government who sends the police and closes its eyes on the massive use of force,grenades,rubber bullet launchers etc. where even the Hong Kong police would look like angels.

And personally I don't have much knowledge about Kashmir,its issues,Pakistan's and India's goals etc.,so I prefer to stay out of it,although the forum allows me a bit to read more about it,because the issue isn't much discussed in France and maybe Europe as a whole.

With over 4000 posts and your presence for over 5 years on a Pakistani forum, and reading a lot about Kashmir, saying that you still don't know about the Kashmir dispute doesn't seem ok. It's kind of avoidance even at an individual level when you know that Kashmir is in a lock down for over more than 5 months.

This is what we are pointing out here. It is hypocrisy to brush the issue under the carpet while having a clear idea about right and wrong.

 

[maximuswarrior]

With over 4000 posts and your presence for over 5 years on a Pakistani forum, and reading a lot about Kashmir, saying that you still don't know about the Kashmir dispute doesn't seem ok. It's kind of avoidance even at an individual level when you know that Kashmir is in a lock down for over more than 5 months.

This is what we are pointing out here. It is hypocrisy to brush the issue under the carpet while having a clear idea about right and wrong.

He knows all about the Kashmir conflict and what Indian forces do to innocent Kashmiris. He chooses to side with the wrong side and knowingly. That makes it more criminal. The same applies to the French government.

This man is obsessed with Pakistan and he comes to this forum for a reason. That is to keep himself fully informed with Pak related affairs.

 

[PakSword]

It is all BS. All this talk about human rights. We need to do the necessary because we owe it to ourselves.

France openly supports our enemy on every forum. We don't give a crap about their reasons blah blah.

Pakistan should take a stance.

This is true for all the western nations and we know about it quite well.

Haven't we seen mass murderers and terrorists such as Altaf Hussain, Harbiyar Murree being protected in the countries which raise the voice on human rights more than anyone else?

The government of Pakistan alleges that Marri is the leader of the Balochistan Liberation Army, which is designated a terrorist organization by Pakistan, USA and the United Kingdom, but he was tried and acquitted of terrorism charges by a British court in 2009. The British government granted his request for political asylum in 2011.

 

[Vergennes]

He knows all about the Kashmir conflict and what Indian forces do to innocent Kashmiris. He chooses to side with the wrong side and knowingly. That makes it more criminal. The same applies to the French government.

This man is obsessed with Pakistan and he comes to this forum for a reason. That is to keep himself fully informed with Pak related affairs.

I rarely comment on Pakistan affairs,nor that's the reason I am on this forum,I am more here to discuss about related European affairs,African affairs (Related to Europe again) and a bit of what's happening in middle east,otherwise I don't take much interest in the rest,but you are entitled to your opinion. As if my opinion as a simple citizen would change the dynamics of Kashmir or India and Pakistan as a whole. Just in case we are all nobodies debating on a forum,not politicians,prime ministers or president,nobody cares about our opinion.

 

[maximuswarrior]

This is true for all the western nations and we know about it quite well.

Haven't we seen mass murderers and terrorists such as Altaf Hussain, Harbiyar Murree being protected in the countries which raise the voice on human rights more than anyone else?

The government of Pakistan alleges that Marri is the leader of the Balochistan Liberation Army, which is designated a terrorist organization by Pakistan, USA and the United Kingdom, but he was tried and acquitted of terrorism charges by a British court in 2009. The British government granted his request for political asylum in 2011.

Exactly. We know how the hypocrisy works.

All I am saying is to at least abandon our diplomatic relations with nations that support India. Despite fully knowing how India violates human rights of Kashmiri people. France tops this list.

I rarely comment on Pakistan affairs,nor that's the reason I am on this forum,I am more here to discuss about related European affairs,African affairs (Related to Europe again) and a bit of what's happening in middle east,otherwise I don't take much interest in the rest,but you are entitled to your opinion. As if my opinion as a simple citizen would change the dynamics of Kashmir or India and Pakistan as a whole. Just in case we are all nobodies debating on a forum,not politicians,prime ministers or president,nobody cares about our opinion.

That is BS because this is foremost a Pakistani defence forum. You chose this forum fully knowing that the topics discussed here are related to Pak affairs.

You came here to learn about Pakistan, but you don't even have the courage to acknowledge this.

Secondly, the European section on this forum is dead. You have to be crazy to come here and discuss with walls. There little to no interest in European section.

At least fabricate believable lies.

 

[PakSword]

Exactly. We know how the hypocrisy works.

All I am saying is to at least abandon our diplomatic relations with nations that support India. Despite fully knowing how this country violates humsn rights of Kashmiri people. France tops this list.

Agree.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

It's time to recognize the nation that is harming and is straight up involved in harming Pakistan's interest. It's about time we start doing something about France which is voting against Kashmir in UNSC and providing India with weapons to be used against Pakistan.
We should start studying the weaknesses of France to be exploited a research into developing and identifying their vulnerability. Find their enemies and support them.
If France wants to play that dirty game of making money and thinking only money then Pakistan shall look and do anything to send France a message. Wether in Afghanistan or somewhere else if needed to be.

Do you think US, Russia and UK will support to PAK on Kashmir?

Ufff - pls understand Lollypops from Mr Trump. Don't say again that after meeting with Trump, we won the world cup.

Pls spare France, all member countries are same and they don't care and don'twant to get involved on Kashmir issue except China.

 

[PakSword]

I rarely comment on Pakistan affairs,nor that's the reason I am on this forum,I am more here to discuss about related European affairs,African affairs (Related to Europe again) and a bit of what's happening in middle east,otherwise I don't take much interest in the rest,but you are entitled to your opinion. As if my opinion as a simple citizen would change the dynamics of Kashmir or India and Pakistan as a whole. Just in case we are all nobodies debating on a forum,not politicians,prime ministers or president,nobody cares about our opinion.

You know, you are a "professional" on this forum. As far as I know, this title is given to people who have some kind of security forces background.

Either your title was incorrectly assigned, or you are not telling the truth. A member of a security force is expected to have "some" knowledge about the most dangerous conflict zones in the world.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Do you think US, Russia and UK will support to PAK on Kashmir?

Ufff - pls understand Lollypops from Mr Trump. Don't say again that after meeting with Trump, we won the world cup again

You build libraries in Afghanistan.

We facilitate peace talks.

That counts for something.

LOL you think India is almighty and dictates support from US, UK and Russia? They will ditch you from the next building once you are not needed.

You are not that mighty as you like to believe. We know your limitations and you got some big ones.

Clearly France has chosen Indian side on Kashmir or else it would fulfil its duty and remind Hindustan of its abysmal human rights abuses.

France continues to sell high tech weapons to a human rights abuser like India. Yet Western countries like France are ready to handout lectures to other nations about human rights and what not.

 

[El Sidd]

Do you think US, Russia and UK will support to PAK on Kashmir?

Do you think they will support India on Kashmir?