France overtakes China as third biggest arms exporter, report shows

[dani191]

France overtakes China as third biggest arms exporter, report shows​

It increased its sales by 59% in the past 10 years, more than any other country​

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25 March 2022 11:24

A Dassault Rafale fighter jet, one of France’s main exports in the arms industry Pic: VanderWolf Images / Shutterstock
By Thomas Brent
France “substantially” increased its exports of arms in the 2017-2021 period and is now the third biggest exporter of weaponry in the world, a report published by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri) shows.
In this four-year period, arms exports by France made up 11% of total global arms exports, up from 6% in the previous four-year period (2012-2016), meaning it overtakes China as the third biggest exporter.
Overall, France has increased its arms exports by 59% in the past 10 years, the most of any country in this time period.
It remains behind the US and Russia as the biggest exporters, who in the 2017-2021 period supplied 39% and 19% of the global arms exports respectively.
China is now the fourth biggest exporter of arms, and Germany is fifth.

France’s high exports are mainly due to sales of Dassault Rafale fighter jets, which it has mainly supplied to Egypt, Qatar and India. These three countries made up 56% of France’s total arms exports between 2017 and 2021.
The report, published on March 14, does not include France’s more recent deals to sell its Rafale jets to the United Arab Emirates, confirmed in December 2021, and Indonesia, confirmed in February this year.
A recent article by the investigative news site Disclose revealed that France continued to issue export licences to Russia after the EU imposed an arms embargo on the country in 2014.
France’s armed forces ministry stated after that it “allowed the termination of certain contracts concluded before 2014”, Euractiv reported. This was permitted under the terms of the embargo.
In terms of imports, France is not one of Europe’s major buyers.
The continent’s major importers are the UK, Norway and the Netherlands.
The report states however:

“Other European states are also expected to increase their arms imports significantly over the coming decade, having recently placed large orders for major arms, in particular combat aircraft from the US.
“Despite armed conflict in eastern Ukraine throughout 2017–21, the country’s imports of major arms in the period were very limited.”
Overall, there was a drop of 4.6% in international transfers of arms in the four-year period of 2017-2021 compared to the previous four-year period.

France overtakes China as third biggest arms exporter, report shows

It increased its sales by 59% in the past 10 years, more than any other country

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[Ali_Baba]

France had a good year with Rafale sales - but it wont be able to sustain this momentum relative to China given the larger product set that China has on offer.

 

[dani191]

France had a good year with Rafale sales - but it wont be able to sustain this momentum relative to China given the larger product set that China has on offer.

this on 5 years

 

[fitpOsitive]

France had a good year with Rafale sales - but it wont be able to sustain this momentum .

Modi Hai, tu mumkin Hai.

 

[WotTen]

France’s high exports are mainly due to sales of Dassault Rafale fighter jets, which it has mainly supplied to Egypt, Qatar and India. These three countries made up 56% of France’s total arms exports between 2017 and 2021.
The report, published on March 14, does not include France’s more recent deals to sell its Rafale jets to the United Arab Emirates, confirmed in December 2021, and Indonesia, confirmed in February this year.
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“Other European states are also expected to increase their arms imports significantly over the coming decade, having recently placed large orders for major arms, in particular combat aircraft from the US.

Interesting that non-European countries are buying Rafale but European countries prefer US aircraft over Rafale.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

Despite loosing Nuke submarine deal with Australia

 

[Hydration]

Despite loosing Nuke submarine deal with Australia

its beleived that some of these subs will be sold to egypt, negotiations

 

[Beast]

Interesting that non-European countries are buying Rafale but European countries prefer US aircraft over Rafale.

Prefer? More to do with political pressure and threat.

 

[_Nabil_]

Does this include the delivery of arms to own army? I guess most China production is going to its own army.

 

[Nuclear Clown]

Does this include the delivery of arms to own army? I guess most China production is going to its own army.

Nope. These are exports only.
BTW, France even ravished the 2nd place to Russia more than once.

 

[dani191]

Nope. These are exports only.
BTW, France even ravished the 2nd place to Russia more than once.

south korea may take this place

 

[Nuclear Clown]

south korea may take this place

Considering your location, Israel has enormous exports potentials too, Probably better than SoKo, NoKo would export a lot if they were into being less on the hermit side ... Was I MoD of a country, the IADS would definitively be a mixture of EU+Israel air defence system...
Something like...
- Mistral ManPADS
- Rheinmetall-Oerlikon Skynex/MANTIS/SkyShield/SkyRanger/HEL Laser
- Leonardo Draco
- Crotale Mk.3 (eventually a Mk.4 upgrade : adding a booster to the interceptors and have 2x6 or 2x8 per launcher instead of 2x4 would be interesting. The C-RAM capability of Crotale seems highly ignored
- Rafael Iron Dome/C-Dome
- VL MICA-NG
- SAMP/T-NG
- IAI Arrow-3

BTW, Israel should definitively consider going back to Dassault : Rafale F4 introduces a new generation of stealth that makes S-400/500 totally useless. F-35 may have interesting features, it also can't replace F-15 or F-16... Considering the number of ageing aircraft to replace, well, it'd definitively be feasible to fully build them in Israel, and the Dassault aka Bloch family would be damn happy, Israel is not really Israel without the Bloch family's aircraft

 

[dani191]

Considering your location, Israel has enormous exports potentials too, Probably better than SoKo, NoKo would export a lot if they were into being less on the hermit side ... Was I MoD of a country, the IADS would definitively be a mixture of EU+Israel air defence system...
Something like...
- Mistral ManPADS
- Rheinmetall-Oerlikon Skynex/MANTIS/SkyShield/SkyRanger/HEL Laser
- Leonardo Draco
- Crotale Mk.3 (eventually a Mk.4 upgrade : adding a booster to the interceptors and have 2x6 or 2x8 per launcher instead of 2x4 would be interesting. The C-RAM capability of Crotale seems highly ignored
- Rafael Iron Dome/C-Dome
- VL MICA-NG
- SAMP/T-NG
- IAI Arrow-3

BTW, Israel should definitively consider going back to Dassault : Rafale F4 introduces a new generation of stealth that makes S-400/500 totally useless. F-35 may have interesting features, it also can't replace F-15 or F-16... Considering the number of ageing aircraft to replace, well, it'd definitively be feasible to fully build them in Israel, and the Dassault aka Bloch family would be damn happy, Israel is not really Israel without the Bloch family's aircraft

israel need aproval to sell arrow 3 and david sling from usa you need fighter and submerine and havy industeris to make to top 5 sells, witch israel dont have we cant produce coveretes helipocter, engines, fighters and submiernes, and in 2021 we exported 11 bilion dollars defence export

 

[Indos]

 

[Nuclear Clown]

israel need aproval to sell arrow 3 and david sling from usa you need fighter and submerine and havy industeris to make to top 5 sells, witch israel dont have we cant produce coveretes helipocter, engines, fighters and submiernes, and in 2021 we exported 11 bilion dollars defence export

It's clear that it wasn't forcedly a good idea to imply USA in the Arrow-3 or David's Sling, look, MBDA had to do changes to the SCALP-EG as there were US parts onboards and the Yanks were blocking the sales... I suppose they kicked you out of several European competitions which were hilarious : c'mon, the Patriot system "winning" on the SAMP/T with the Aster missile is as ridiculous as the F-16 winning a competition on the Rafale or the Stinger to the Mistral. But we'd definitively need smth like the Arrow-3 for EU's ABM defence, and TEL-mounted : nonetheless the SM-3 is 6x more expensive, but c'mon, if matters heathen with Putler (with a little help from uncle-Xi), I don't give 15 minutes before Aegis-Ashores in Romania and Poland are said "Hello here" by Kh-47 Khinzal. Same crap with Patriot : even if fit with David's Sling Stunner = PAAC-4, a Patriot system is not mobile, while SAMP/T-NG packs the bags in less than 3 minutes and deploy elsewhere in 5 minutes

But it may end firing back, e.g. their US Navy NEMESIS system that create "ghost" radar echoes of a fleet : there's already something like this on Rafale, allowing to fill a radar scope with about 200 fake-positives (that's what I was told by a pilot)... It's likely the Yanks are infringing some Thales patent(s): Guess why the Raytheon cruise missile that projected fake-positives was cancelled? Either their system didn't worked or they received a cease and desist... It's likely that Boeing couldn't go further with the Silent Eagle or the Advanced Super Hornet due to the NIH syndrome: they'd need Thales' SPECTRA or smth similar to field these, but a working active cancellation of radar waves implies technologies dev'd by Thales+ONERA which have patents...
Yanks should really stop pissing-off allies while themselves would need allies' technologies: look at the fiasco of the Zumwalt-class : now they're into mass building French-Italian FREMM stealth frigates.

IDF needs at least 200 aircraft to replace the ageing fleet.
200 orders is what you need to start a production and have an aircraft factory not losing money, and 400+ engines is OK too. Mark my words, IAI would absolutely be able to domestically build Rafales, just like they made the Kfir or the Lavi, and actually, with 200 units, Dassault would even agree to set up a production line of their own too.
Considering the relations with India, it'd even be clever to set up a production for an improved Tejas Mk1 which could have Rafale's M88 engine in the 100kN non afterburner version Safran has shown to the public (and they aid they can deliver with 115kN afterurner withn 18 months), in fact, DRDO has validated all the mods to make it what Dassault was in to do from it had French govt rejected the Rafale program : a single engine baby Rafale to Replace Mirage-2000...

The only mods DRDO hasn't validated are the structural ones which would allow to take 11G, increase payload while cutting 500kg of empty weight and the BRS parachute... M88 would be really interesting: with 20cm less diameter than F404/414 and less needs in air flow and less fuel consumption, you can stuff aboutas much internal fuel as a F-16, Mirage-2000 or Gripen-E. Would the twin seater airframe be used as a single seater, it'd be feasible to stuff SPECTRA, while without it, it can make a trainer. HAL rejects the idea, they're sabotaging the program as they did for the Marut, it's a pity: once "Rafalized", the Tejas would become the best single engine fighter on market with freaking low cost of use (since M88-4e introduction, Rafale's hourly cost has felt to $10-12k/h, it's half of a F-16, so, as a single engine, it would be about the quarter. The Kfir-NG hourly cost is $10k/h with a F414). The sales potential for smth like this is over 5000 units.

After the dirty trick Biden played on Naval Group (fka DCNS), IMHO, if Israel wants Barracuda-class submarines, incl. with nuclear propulsion and either licence-build 'em or want a ToT, something must be feasible.

Suffren-class submarine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Scorpène-class is also highly appreciated SSK with AIP :

Scorpène-class submarine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We're exporting these to Chile, India, Malaysia, Brazil. it seems that the Philippines and Indonesia are into talks too, but it's obvious that nuke propulsion goes much further than what AIP can do : you can really stay at 20-25 knots all the time.
Biden also managed to torpedo several Rafale sales,

Mark my words, after such play-dirty, we'd definitively be happy and helpful to spoil USA from some market shares especially in Israel and we'd surely be happy if the stuff was domestically built : zero chances the Yanks to interfere in such case unless you imply in Indian styled negotiations
Not speaking about the Apache ALCM which may allow a 6 Days War v2.0 by demolishing runways just like the old Durandal bombs... BTW, don't trust the ranges Wikipedia tells about : Apache and SCALP/Storm-Shadow are the same missile with different warheads, so, if the SCALP ranges 560km, even if the Apache's warhead is a little heavier with the 10 submunitions likely very similar to the BAP-100, I don't expect less than 400km, very likely more... And Russians weren't able to detect, jam or intercept the SCALP strikes in Syria, and they knew it was coming...