First, thank you for proving my point that the weasel word 'ostensible' is in the law.
ostensible doesn't mean what you mean
ostensible as i explained and explained in wiki link in french for this law means the principe of the republic FAR BEFORE there is any muslim in this country !!!
So wtf are you saying this is made for making a hell for muslims LOL
Again : if a woman wants to wear scarf she can go to private school
and as explained before the religious christians they want religious education that only be teached in private schools like it can for muslims
when i see the kids leaving the schools the public ones i didn't see croices around their neck and when you know that the teachers are very much left minded in public school (which gives problems for the right wing for doing any reform but its' another problem) they didn't tolerate any speech of religion especially christian which the laic coutnry fought against . the french republic was created with a distance to the christian authority, not to the muslim authority
Except that the traditional Muslim religious symbol is the headscarf, not a fatimah pendant. The traditional Christian religious symbol is a necklace/pendant with the cross. The law is carefully worded to disallow one, while leaving the other alone.
it is your mistake.
THE LAW DOESN(T CARE
that's that simple. the people here are not going to read holy books to understand they do a general law.
And the law says nothing about being covered by clothes -- only that it should be "discreet". Why make such an exemption? If the French are so serious about secularism, then all religious symbols should be banned, no exceptions. Why do they have this interesting exemption for "discreet" religious symbols?
I explained in the past message
so again let me say what was written in the wiki and is the law
it is not "discreet" but it is forbidden to use a religious sign that would be enough visible to promote a religion in the public school.
It happened many times kids were kicked out because of croice.
I could see once on tv even once that in a school people complained because they put a croice inside a room
As well the sikh as well they cannot use their symbol
and even the "bandana" was forbidden at school because the student said it was his religion.
the jews who wanted to use their kippa they had to go to private school
they are used with it. we should be used as well with it.
In toulouse there is a new school built for muslims... they are going to be built soon.
Then you are going off-track. My remarks were specifically about the ministry for the preservation of French culture, not the French cultural ministry. I assume the two have some sort of relationship, but it is irrelevant.
there is NO such minister
maybe you confused with the new "minister of French identity"
but about it, big majority of French are not happy about this
it was criticized and you know the explanation who gives the president here?
he said that because some people are insulting the French song during the foot ball games (which is true sadly) , because they are some young people who say and write on walls "**** france"... some people need to be reminded as said the president "france you love it or you leave it"
but it isi another matter to speak about
I don't understand this part. Are you saying that Chinese culture is prominent in Paris and is the only foreign culture tolerated by the Parisians?
No no no
As i explained sooner: the problem is that the people who come here they don't do anything to organize things: i can see for Iranians they just care for their own
and it is not like in Canada where you go party together you have a communauty life .
Chinese are far more communauty like INSIDE France when the other people are not doing it
It is because the east asians and the chinese people they are enough organized it is because they want more to be together ...
but nobody is allowing only chinese to do so (and not the other)
if let's say 1000 Iranians go to the major of Paris asking to make a party there for new year it would be accepted. They just are so individuals that Iranians just care to be inside family hidden in their houses/appartments.
Yep Iranians in Paris are far different than the ones in Canada
and the ones in Iran are far more social minded and not selfish
(just my point of view)