France has a lot to learn from Pakistan resilience

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Either the ambassador is really sad or just really hates NS.

He's not exactly the most charismatic leader Pakistan has ever had. At the Same time 129 of her people were just massacred shamelessly should she be smiling.

A good gesture by the Govt nonetheless and a mere acknowledgement of our commitment and contribution against global terrorism

 

[Zarvan]

you are honestly the biggest Stupid i ever interacted in my entire life ..keep repeating the exact same thing like a parrot ..
for once use your brain if you have any , how can a person make a Cartoon to insult the prophet when there is no Portrait of Prophet exist ? you create a Mickey mouse and give him my name , but does this make me a mickey mouse ?
they created a Cartoon , and write its Islamic Prophet so you think it becomes that ?? if you think that than you are the one who is doing the Blasphemy ..
plus this is what you said , " As for those who have name MUHAMMAD they are not PROPHET " now if every guy with Muhammad name cant be Prophet than how can a Cartoon be Prophet when there is not actual Image Of Prophet exists ? they just create a random cartoon , and just to provoke Stupid Muslims like you associate with the prophet cause they know people like you ( without thinking ) will react violently , and go rampage to kill others ..
you love Prophet, than adopt his life style, learn to forgive and tolerate people , because this is how he lived his entire life ..
Suhail-ibn-amr ( if i remember the name Correctly ) was Meccan leader who used to speak against the Prophet , he give speeches against the Prophet .. but even after Mecca was surrendered to Prophet he did not give the Order to execute him , he accepted his apology and later he become the finest the speaker for Islam ..

i would rather live with people who are misguided , than killing them to prove that i am good Muslim .. when you kill someone in the name of Allah , which he never ask you ( only under some circumstances ) than you actually kill the hope for the person to repent ... there are almost 2 billion Muslim who daily send his love and respect to Prophet .. just because some 10 or 100 people make some random cartoon or create a Movie and associate with our Prophet , will not effect his reputation in the eyes of God , or his followers ..

Sorry forgives and tolerance has a limited not everything is tolerated. They don't want to believe HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is PROPHET of ALLAH we have no problem with them but we don't tolerate and forgive who make fun of him by making cartoons or abusing him. As for your example I can give you at least 8 to 10 examples in which those who used to make fun of PROPHET SAW were eliminated on his orders. Those who were forgiven were mostly forgiven when Jihad was not made compulsory after that who ever did this crap were dealt by sword. Not only ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW asked this but did it and also hi 4 Caliphs. You go first read Quran and Sunnah in detail before wasting my time.

 

[MilSpec]

No but like them I am telling you the reality which if west would keep denying than only trouble and hatred would increase and will only benefit groups like ISIS and AL QAEDA.

People who think thier relegious freedoms are infringed upon by the west m and ISIS is their voice, they are more than welcome to go an live under ISIS...

 

[LeGenD]

France [should] understand the importance of respecting religious sensitivities of the people. In this manner, it can reduce the chances of terrorist activities in its territory. At minimum, terrorist organizations won't be able to use this excuse to justify their attacks.

 

[rockstar08]

Sorry forgives and tolerance has a limited not everything is tolerated. They don't want to believe HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is PROPHET of ALLAH we have no problem with them but we don't tolerate and forgive who make fun of him by making cartoons or abusing him. As for your example I can give you at least 8 to 10 examples in which those who used to make fun of PROPHET SAW were eliminated on his orders. Those who were forgiven were mostly forgiven when Jihad was not made compulsory after that who ever did this crap were dealt by sword. Not only ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW asked this but did it and also hi 4 Caliphs. You go first read Quran and Sunnah in detail before wasting my time.

so if they dont believe him to be a Prophet than why you feel offended ? they can make a cartoon and associate with anyone , but it can not make him that ? again failed to use your brain and keep repeating the same thing , so i assume you have no knowledge ..
as for Prophet Ordering to kill people who do Blasphemy , there were different circumstances , and killing someone for blasphemy is not part of Jihad , which is illogical .. and for 4 caliphs , they were just Companions , they can do mistakes , so lets drop that what they did or not ..
and i would like to see a Direct verse from the Quran where Allah has said , Kill those who make do blasphemy ??

 

[v9s]

Sorry forgives and tolerance has a limited not everything is tolerated. They don't want to believe HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is PROPHET of ALLAH we have no problem with them but we don't tolerate and forgive who make fun of him by making cartoons or abusing him. As for your example I can give you at least 8 to 10 examples in which those who used to make fun of PROPHET SAW were eliminated on his orders. Those who were forgiven were mostly forgiven when Jihad was not made compulsory after that who ever did this crap were dealt by sword. Not only ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW asked this but did it and also hi 4 Caliphs. You go first read Quran and Sunnah in detail before wasting my time.

Buddy, you need to read the Quran. There is NO PUNISHMENT FOR BLASPHEMY. Only GOD can judge them and will punish them in the afterlife.

There is punishment for blasphemy in the Hadith, yes, i agree with you there. There are also Sahih Hadiths that insult the Prophet and insult God - remember, these aren't the questionable ones, these are the Sahih Hadiths published in Bukhari et al.

You really should examine the content of the hadith and reform yourself. Stop idol worshiping Prophet Muhammad, stop blindly accepting what your maulana tells you, and apply your god given brain to something as important as religion.

 

[Zarvan]

so if they dont believe him to be a Prophet than why you feel offended ? they can make a cartoon and associate with anyone , but it can not make him that ? again failed to use your brain and keep repeating the same thing , so i assume you have no knowledge ..
as for Prophet Ordering to kill people who do Blasphemy , there were different circumstances , and killing someone for blasphemy is not part of Jihad , which is illogical .. and for 4 caliphs , they were just Companions , they can do mistakes , so lets drop that what they did or not ..
and i would like to see a Direct verse from the Quran where Allah has said , Kill those who make do blasphemy ??

They don't wasn't to believe their choice but they are not allowed to abuse or make fun of Hazrat MUHAMMAD SAW. As for Sahabas yes they may have done small sins not major and their point of view is valid and followed and also even implemented as law. Your statement only shows ignorance about status of Great companions. Most orders in Quran are not direct, those who have no idea about arabic often say this.

They don't wasn't to believe their choice but they are not allowed to abuse or make fun of Hazrat MUHAMMAD SAW. As for Sahabas yes they may have done small sins not major and their point of view is valid and followed and also even implemented as law. Your statement only shows ignorance about status of Great companions. Most orders in Quran are not direct, those who have no idea about arabic often say this.

Dude I read Quran and Sunnah both and punishment was their and would be given and was given in life of RASOOL SAW on his orders and also in time of 4 caliphs and was given even after them

 

[rockstar08]

They don't wasn't to believe their choice but they are not allowed to abuse or make fun of Hazrat MUHAMMAD SAW. As for Sahabas yes they may have done small sins not major and their point of view is valid and followed and also even implemented as law. Your statement only shows ignorance about status of Great companions. Most orders in Quran are not direct, those who have no idea about arabic often say this.

again repeating same thing, and ignore my questions ... how can i draw your cartoon if i never see your face ? i make 3 lines or a circle wit 2 dots and call it zarvan , so does this make a insult for you ?
and for Sahaba , they do small sin ,mistake or big . sin is a sin ... and mistake is a mistake .. and if their ruling are part of Shariah law , than stop claiming Shariah law to be the Law of Allah ... because there are many thing which was added in Shariah later by Umar and Uthman R.A , which does not have anything to do with Quran ..
anyone who can read simple English can understand who is acting ignorance here , cause i am keeping my point simple and straight , you are saving your face just by repeating same thing over and over again ...

Dude I read Quran and Sunnah both and punishment was their and would be given and was given in life of RASOOL SAW on his orders and also in time of 4 caliphs and was given even after them

Right after the death of Prophet , Abu Bakr Launch a Campaign against a Tribe who refused to pay Zakat , now please enlighten me where in Quran Allah says kill those who does not Pay Zakat ??

 

[Stag112]

Spot the difference

A) Deny the terrorists any cause they can use to kill you

B) Meet all demands of terrorists because they can kill you

Here is the (superficial) difference

A) Said by apologists

B) Said by terrorists

Same team, different roles, one goal.

 

[Zarvan]

again repeating same thing, and ignore my questions ... how can i draw your cartoon if i never see your face ? i make 3 lines or a circle wit 2 dots and call it zarvan , so does this make a insult for you ?
and for Sahaba , they do small sin ,mistake or big . sin is a sin ... and mistake is a mistake .. and if their ruling are part of Shariah law , than stop claiming Shariah law to be the Law of Allah ... because there are many thing which was added in Shariah later by Umar and Uthman R.A , which does not have anything to do with Quran ..
anyone who can read simple English can understand who is acting ignorance here , cause i am keeping my point simple and straight , you are saving your face just by repeating same thing over and over again ...

Yes they haven't see the face but they deliberate make his provocative caricatures and cartoons to insult him and provoke Muslims and that comes in category of Blasphemy and won't be tolerated.Any one who has studied in Quran and Sunnah will know your level of ignorance about Quran and Sunnah and status of great Sahabas and Islamic History.

again repeating same thing, and ignore my questions ... how can i draw your cartoon if i never see your face ? i make 3 lines or a circle wit 2 dots and call it zarvan , so does this make a insult for you ?
and for Sahaba , they do small sin ,mistake or big . sin is a sin ... and mistake is a mistake .. and if their ruling are part of Shariah law , than stop claiming Shariah law to be the Law of Allah ... because there are many thing which was added in Shariah later by Umar and Uthman R.A , which does not have anything to do with Quran ..
anyone who can read simple English can understand who is acting ignorance here , cause i am keeping my point simple and straight , you are saving your face just by repeating same thing over and over again ...



Right after the death of Prophet , Abu Bakr Launch a Campaign against a Tribe who refused to pay Zakat , now please enlighten me where in Quran Allah says kill those who does not Pay Zakat ??

Zakat is order of ALLAH and right of state what you do who do treason. Before showing your epic ignorance go understand Quran and Sunnah. Your talks only remind me of talks and points which were raised by Abu Juhal and Abdullah bin Ubai. Your points are exactly the same

 

[rockstar08]

Yes they haven't see the face but they deliberate make his provocative caricatures and cartoons to insult him and provoke Muslims and that comes in category of Blasphemy and won't be tolerated.Any one who has studied in Quran and Sunnah will know your level of ignorance about Quran and Sunnah and status of great Sahabas and Islamic History.

you have conflicting mindset , you sometimes don't know what the question is ..
Provocation of Muslims is what they do , and you get provoked ? and go rampage ? and as for Prophet , how can he be insulted by a Random cartoon associated with him ? lots of people claim to see Prophet in their dreams , but let me ask you are Simple question ? how do they even know its Prophet when no one actually see the Prophet ?
plus wouldnt it comes in blasphemy ?

well again repeat the same thing .. never mind ..

Zakat is order of ALLAH and right of state what you do who do treason. Before showing your epic ignorance go understand Quran and Sunnah. Your talks only remind me of talks and points which were raised by Abu Juhal and Abdullah bin Ubai. Your points are exactly the same

again the most stupid answer to a simple question ... i ask for a Verse in Quran ? which you failed to provide because there is none , Zakat is a pillar of Islam , and its to clean your money , if someone gives it Allah will reward him or her in After life but going to attack a clan who refused to pay Zakat is a decision of Abu Bakr not Allah ..
and again , your arguments are baseless without any proves ..
and if you are champion of Quran and sunnah than prove me wrong instead of repeating same thing like a parrot ..

 

[Zarvan]

you have conflicting mindset , you sometimes don't know what the question is ..
Provocation of Muslims is what they do , and you get provoked ? and go rampage ? and as for Prophet , how can he be insulted by a Random cartoon associated with him ? lots of people claim to see Prophet in their dreams , but let me ask you are Simple question ? how do they even know its Prophet when no one actually see the Prophet ?
plus wouldnt it comes in blasphemy ?

well again repeat the same thing .. never mind ..

I don't have conflicting mind your ignorance about Quran and Sunnah and other things is of epic proportions . Cartoons or abuse won't be tolerated nor forgiven

 

[rockstar08]

I don't have conflicting mind your ignorance about Quran and Sunnah and other things is of epic proportions . Cartoons or abuse won't be tolerated nor forgiven

Ok Mr Godly fellow as you consider yourself to God of Muslims , and the only person who is not just full of ignorance but arrogance is you
i leave that to other members to decide .. but for me , i rather try to change mentality of People who are doing Blasphemy than chopping off their head and play football with it ..

 

[Zarvan]

you have conflicting mindset , you sometimes don't know what the question is ..
Provocation of Muslims is what they do , and you get provoked ? and go rampage ? and as for Prophet , how can he be insulted by a Random cartoon associated with him ? lots of people claim to see Prophet in their dreams , but let me ask you are Simple question ? how do they even know its Prophet when no one actually see the Prophet ?
plus wouldnt it comes in blasphemy ?

well again repeat the same thing .. never mind ..



again the most stupid answer to a simple question ... i ask for a Verse in Quran ? which you failed to provide because there is none , Zakat is a pillar of Islam , and its to clean your money , if someone gives it Allah will reward him or her in After life but going to attack a clan who refused to pay Zakat is a decision of Abu Bakr not Allah ..
and again , your arguments are baseless without any proves ..
and if you are champion of Quran and sunnah than prove me wrong instead of repeating same thing like a parrot ..

Zakat is right of state and they had to take it and yes it's order of ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW and would be taken with full powers. Hazrat ABU BAKAR RA did exactly what Quran and Sunnah says but your ignorance has blinded you to understand great actions and wisdom of Quran and Sunnah and greatness of Sahabas

Ok Mr Godly fellow as you consider yourself to God of Muslims , and the only person who is not just full of ignorance but arrogance is you
i leave that to other members to decide .. but for me , i rather try to change mentality of People who are doing Blasphemy than chopping off their head and play football with it ..

You can keep trying that but Islamic state ( not ISIS ) would deal with those who commit Blasphemy as done by RASOOL SAW and his 4 Caliphs.

 

[rockstar08]

Zakat is right of state and they had to take it and yes it's order of ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW and would be taken with full powers. Hazrat ABU BAKAR RA did exactly what Quran and Sunnah says but your ignorance has blinded you to understand great actions and wisdom of Quran and Sunnah and greatness of Sahabas

nothing but rants without a single Verse from Quran to back your claim , but i leave that to your stupidity habits

You can keep trying that but Islamic state ( not ISIS ) would deal with those who commit Blasphemy as done by RASOOL SAW and his 4 Caliphs.

best of luck with reviving the failed system