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1) You claimed that Arabs were ethnically cleansed.
2) I replied that number of Arabs in Palestine actually INCREASED about 14 times since the beginning of Zionism.
3) You said that numbers dont matter, percents prove that there was cleansing even if they grow 14 times. :D
4) I brought then Singapore where percent shift was even much bigger than in Palestine.
5) Then u came with new silly excuse: what is important is what they were thinking while they migrate. :rofl: :D Although the final result is exactly the same: Singapore is ruled by Chinese and Israel by Jews.

You may try to hide your ignorance behind laughter, but anyone who understands how demographic shifts are measured will see who is talking sense.

Demographic shifts and ethnic cleansing are about managing the percentage of populations. Have you heard the word "decimated". What do you suppose that means? It means 90% of people were killed. Percent. Get it?

The issue with Singapore is something YOU brought in in a desperate bid at equivalence. I showed why there is no equivalence between Singapore's case and Israel's since the Chinese never colluded with the Brits to create a "Chinese State".
 
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@Norwegian
Your statements contradict those of your supposed friend @ 500, you are killing her.

He doesn't realize that he is contradicting the Zionist claims as to how many Jews lived in Palestine at the time of the British Mandate.

Sad to see such ignorance. Sad and comical.
 
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Hogwash! When UN proposed partition plan for the establishment of a Jewish and Arab state on Mandate region, Jewish communities didn't make up more than 6 % of total mandate area:

Now you are mixing up % land with % population.

It's truly tragic to see you flounder about when you lose one point after another.

Regardless of the percentages, the salient point, from which you keep running away, is that increase of Jewish population from the 4% figure was done under collusion with colonialist rulers. Even the land purchases you mentioned were done under colonial auspices.

It was a colonial conquest by racist Jews.
 
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I showed why there is no equivalence between Singapore's case and Israel's since the Chinese never colluded with the Brits to create a "Chinese State".

Singapore is a Singaporean state.

The founder of Singapore was Lee Kuan Yew, an ethnic Chinese, but a Singaporean in the end.
 
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Singapore is a Singaporean state.

The founder of Singapore was Lee Kuan Yew, an ethnic Chinese, but a Singaporean in the end.

Ethnic Chinese are dominant in Singapore, but that dominance is the result of individual ambition. Chinese people don't have a collective agenda to conquer various lands for the glory of the Han race.
 
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Ethnic Chinese are dominant in Singapore, but that dominance is the result of individual ambition. Chinese people don't have a collective agenda to conquer various lands for the glory of the Han race.

You are right. We don't have any territorial ambition for Singapore, at all. They are another country, another nationality.
 
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Demographic shifts and ethnic cleansing are about managing the percentage of populations.
No silly. Demographic shift can happen due to plenty of various reasons: emigration, immigration, war, hunger, plague, conversion, absorption...

Have you heard the word "decimated". What do you suppose that means? It means 90% of people were killed. Percent. Get it?
No silly. Decimation means killing 10%. But what it has to do with Palestine? No one killed there neither 90 nor 10%. Arab population actually INCREASED 14 times.

The issue with Singapore is something YOU brought in in a desperate bid at equivalence.
I brought Singapore when you claimed that percentage change proves ethnic cleansing even if local population is actually growing.

What happened in Singapore and Palestine is exactly the same:

1) There was British Malaya populated by Malays. Then there was Chinese migration. They became majority in Singapore and created a state ruled by Chinese.

2) There was British Palestine populated by Arabs. Then there was Jewish migration. They became majority in Israel and created a state ruled by Jews.

Exactly the same cases. But u claim that first is not ethnic cleansing although Malay population dropped from 100% to 14% while second is ethnic cleansing.

Why? - Because Jewish migrants where THINKING differently than Chinese migrants. Thats most moronic and desperate argument I've heard in my life.
 
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You show your confusion about history, The first Jews of north Africa were Yemeni Jews who came with Amazight Yemeni tribes to north Africa, they were the Berbers (some branch of Arabs). And that was way before Islam. I was talking about the Arab Muslims of Spain. But your twisted mind got the better of you again.
A superpower Spain, from where did you pull this, from their looting of south America that resembles exactly what usraelis did in Palestine, so you must think you are a super power now.
Spanish armada could not cross the Mediterranean, nor the Brits when the ottomans decided that.
These are the facts, that you keep calling ignorance, displaying your own ignorance and some mental illness i have talked to you about before.
You claimed that Spain declined after expulsion of Arabs. But in reality Spain became one of the largest empires in human history. Thats why half billion people today consider Spanish as their mother tongue.

So stop embarrassing yourself, you have zero knowledge in history.
 
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Except Americans, an emerging nation with no navy of its own taught these Barbary Muslim Pirates a worthy lesson:
Barbary Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks to us Muslims, Americans today have full control of worldly waters :D
Wikipedia is not a credible source...And the Barbary wars had nothing to do with Islam, it was commerce and sea ways control that was at stake...So much that you know!
 
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The Israeli expansion East of Jerusalem, will certainly increase the tension between the two communities. Israel has to face criticism from European that are growing tired of the Israeli arrogance and her refusal to a peace settlement.
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No silly. Demographic shift can happen due to plenty of various reasons: emigration, immigration, war, hunger, plague, conversion, absorption...

Once again, you confuse an effect with a process.

Ethnic cleansing was the process used to obtain the desired effect of a demographic shift.

No silly. Decimation means killing 10%. But what it has to do with Palestine? No one killed there neither 90 nor 10%. Arab population actually INCREASED 14 times.

Right. It means 10 percent.
Hey, there's that word percent.

Demographic shifts are always measured in percent terms because human populations increase over time anyway.

I brought Singapore when you claimed that percentage change proves ethnic cleansing even if local population is actually growing.

I said that the demographic shift in Palestine was the result of ethnic cleansing. I didn't say that all demographic shifts are automatic proof of ethnic cleansing.

The rest of your sentence is a continued repetition of your erroneous claim that demographic shifts are measured in absolute numbers.

Why? - Because Jewish migrants where THINKING differently than Chinese migrants. Thats most moronic and desperate argument I've heard in my life.

Intent makes all the difference.
Colonization is a deliberate process; it doesn't just happen by accident.

The Chinese migrants did not plan a colonial invasion of Malay lands with the intent to create a Chinese State.

Jewish migrants to Palestine did.
 
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Oh come on now.

Were you expecting a 1-1 kill ratio when you go up against a military behemoth like Israel.

Kill one of theirs, they'll kill a 100 of yours.

What's with "yours" and "theirs"?

The person you are responding to is Pakistani.

Israel can only kill 100s of innocent, unarmed Palestinians. They never faced any proper military (and yes, by proper I do not mean untrained armies of Arab nations in 1950's/60's...)

Without any outside involvement, and despite israel have technological edge over Pakistan, Pakistan will bury israel alive in Negev Desert in any military conflict. So will india. So will Turkey.

So much for your 'military behemoth' rant...

israel is just too small and insignificant without the U.S.

edit: Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. My only Israeli friend rang me almost in tears, she's a foreign student here and finds myself to be the only one of her friends who sympathises with Israel. Death within a religious site?!? Seriously?

Wonder you were disgusted the same way when israel murdered thousands of innocent Palestinians, bombed 4 children playing on the beach (that was caught on camera), and destroyed hundreds of houses rendering thousands of Palestinians homeless.

Also, I wonder---did your foreign-exchange israeli friend shed any tears for 400+ children that were burned, cut in piece, and killed in cold by Israeli bombing of Gaza this summer...
 
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"There has to be an immediate stop of breaking into al-Aqsa Mosque and an end of the provocations of settlers and incitement of Israeli cabinet ministers. There gas to be an end of the Israeli occupation, defuse tension and violence," the presidency said in a statement, adding that the Palestinians are committed to the fair solution based on principle of the two-state solution and respect the understandings reached in Jordan to restore calm in Jerusalem.

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014

EXCLUSIVE: Jordan's parliament recited a prayer for the murderers!
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MP and terror cheerleader Khalil Attieh

On Wednesday, Jordan's parliament offered a prayer in honor of the spirit of Ghassan Abu Jamal and Uday Abu Jamal - the terrorists who slaughtered five people.

The prayer was held as the House of representatives session opened.

MP Khalil Attieh requested his fellow representatives to recite the Fatiha for the "spirit of the heroes."

The Fatiha is the first chapter of the Koran, recited on important occasions.

Attieh further declared that the murders were a "natural reaction to the occupation crimes against the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Palestinians."

In addition, MP Mohammed Al-Qatathh of the House of Representatives issued a statement to the assembly condemning the "Zionist attack on Jerusalem and its people" in the wake of "the heroic operation" on the synagogue in Har Nof.

Moreover, a Jordanian clan opened up a mourning tent in Jordan's capital in honor of the terrorists.

Earlier in the day the Jordanian minister of media affairs pretended to condemn the attacks but only issued a vague statement that the government of Jordan "condemns the targeting of civilians, and denounce all acts of violence and terrorism against civilians, no matter who or why it is done." The condemnation was not nearly as specific as the honor for the terrorists given in Parliament.

Perhaps the US State Department should be asked to comment on how our ally's representatives praise terror attacks.

(h/t Ibn Boutros)
 
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