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Fossil teeth place humans in Asia '20,000 years early'

White/European have the belief that their ancestors are Africans. That's fine, however in China's case, a different breed of humanoid developed apart from the one found in Africa. In China, fossil of the 'Peking man' indicates that Chinese people are in fact indigenous to China. We can clearly see Chinese DNA spreading all across East Asia and to an extent Southeast Asia.
 
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When I post the BBC article and reading thru', it never occur to me that none of the Chinese researcher name were mentioned, that might (as someone has already point out) lead to an impression that this is a western research effort taking place in China.

So to correct that, below is the China Daily news and then the Nature magazine's article preview link with a list of authors.

Scientists sink teeth into history of humans in Asia
China Daily, October 15, 2015

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Some of the 47 human teeth discovered in a cave in Hunan province. [Photo/China Daily]

The discovery of 47 human teeth in a cave in Hunan province by Chinese scientists has unearthed new evidence that the earliest modern humans lived in East Asia.

The teeth and a number of animal fossils were excavated from Fuyan Cave in Daoxian county.

After geological dating tests and analysis, the scientists determined that the teeth belonged to Homo sapiens, the species of modern humans that lived between 80,000 and 120,000 years ago.

The discovery of the teeth, made between 2011 and 2013, has just been reported in the online version of the scientific journal Nature.

Nick Campbell, the journal's executive editor, said, "The human teeth from China ... open up a new window on an area we had little information on before.

"These fossils ... are approximately double or more the age of any previous well dated, well preserved human fossils from southern Asia."

The first appearance of humans in the eastern Mediterranean and East Asia has remained a mystery due to lack of fossil evidence.

Human fossils found earlier in Beijing's Tianyuan Cave, Huanglong Cave in Hubei province and Zhiren Cave in the Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region narrowed this down to between 11,000 and 40,000 years ago, but none of these species evolved fully into modern humans.

Liu Wu from the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and lead author of the paper in Nature, said, "This is a milestone discovery because the species we found in the Fuyuan Cave is from well developed modern humans, almost identical to living humans.

"This means that we were present in southern China 30,000 to 70,000 years earlier than in the eastern Mediterranean and Europe."

Campbell, from Nature, said, "The findings really do substantially change our understanding of how modern humans established themselves in Asia.

"The findings may have some intriguing implications for the ever-evolving story of how modern humans replaced Neanderthals."

Neanderthals were closely related to modern humans and lived between 24,000 and 130,000 years ago.

They were smaller than modern humans and had low, flat elongated skulls.

Maria Martinon-Torres from University College London, a co-author of the paper, said, "Now we know that modern humans were present in southern China as early as 80,000 years ago, but there is no evidence that our species entered Europe before 45,000 years ago, when Neanderthals were already extinct."

Robin Dennell from the Department of Archaeology at the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom, said of the teeth discovery, "More revelations about our species' history can surely be expected from southern China."

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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature15696.html

The earliest unequivocally modern humans in southern China
Nature (2015)
doi:10.1038/nature15696

Received 09 May 2015
Accepted 09 September 2015
Published online 14 October 2015

This is a momentous anthropological discovery
Congratulations to all the hard working scholars!
 
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White/European have the belief that their ancestors are Africans. That's fine, however in China's case, a different breed of humanoid developed apart from the one found in Africa. In China, fossil of the 'Peking man' indicates that Chinese people are in fact indigenous to China. We can clearly see Chinese DNA spreading all across East Asia and to an extent Southeast Asia.

Modern day Chinese are not related to Peking men. They were all die off. Modern Chinese migrated out of Africa like everyone else. This is proven and not up to debate.
 
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That also inline with genetic which shows the Human path spreading from Southern China and Vietnam to North. Genetics already found genetics in Vietnam and Southern China are oldest. Those places are the land of Yue people before invasion from Northern China.
This also inline with IQ of Southern Chinese and Vietnamese higher than those northern Chinese.
This defeats delusional Chinese theory nordsinic, altaic superior craps.
No wonder most geniuses in Vietnam have southern mongoloid looking faces, while nothern mongoloid are not many.

Intelligence is not related to the ethnic group. It's usually related to how hard you work. In India, it's his much you brag.
 
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Intelligence is not related to the ethnic group. It's usually related to how hard you work. In India, it's his much you brag.
Washing dishes and flipping burgers are also hardworking, no intelligent involved.

White/European have the belief that their ancestors are Africans. That's fine, however in China's case, a different breed of humanoid developed apart from the one found in Africa. In China, fossil of the 'Peking man' indicates that Chinese people are in fact indigenous to China. We can clearly see Chinese DNA spreading all across East Asia and to an extent Southeast Asia.
Chinese DNA? Another invention of an idiot. I bet on those ancient homo sapiens knows what were they called. Thus southern China was not origin of Han people. Pre-Qin conquest that place occupied by natives, non-Han. Legend Vietnamese said that Han were nomadic raised sheep in conlun mountain.
 
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Fossil teeth place humans in Asia '20,000 years early'
14 October 2015
By Paul Rincon Science editor, BBC News website


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Image copyright S Xing, X-J Wu

Fossil finds from China have shaken up the traditional narrative of humankind's dispersal from Africa.

Scientists working in Daoxian, south China, have discovered teeth belonging to modern humans that date to at least 80,000 years ago.

This is 20,000 years earlier than the widely accepted "Out of Africa" migration that led to the successful peopling of the globe by our species.

Details of the work are outlined in the journal Nature.

We need to re-think our models. Maybe there was more than one Out of Africa migration
Dr María Martinón-Torres, UCL
Several lines of evidence - including genetics and archaeology - support a dispersal of our species from Africa 60,000 years ago.

Early modern humans living in the horn of Africa are thought to have crossed the Red Sea via the Bab el Mandeb straits, taking advantage of low water levels.

All non-African people alive today are thought to derive from this diaspora.

Now, excavations at Fuyan Cave in Daoxian have unearthed a trove of 47 human teeth.

'Game-changer'
"It was very clear to us that these teeth belonged to modern humans [from their morphology]. What was a surprise was the date," Dr María Martinón-Torres, from University College London (UCL), told BBC News.

"All the fossils have been sealed in a calcitic floor, which is like a gravestone, sealing them off. So the teeth have to be older than that layer. Above that are stalagmites that have been dated using uranium series to 80,000 years.

This means that everything below those stalagmites must be older than 80,000 years old; the human teeth could be as old as 125,000 years, according to the researchers.

In addition, the animal fossils found with the human teeth are typical of the Late Pleistocene - the same period indicated by the radioactive dating evidence.

Some fossils of modern humans that predate the Out of Africa migration are already known, from the Skhul and Qafzeh caves in Israel. But these have been regarded as part of a failed early dispersal of modern humans who probably went extinct.

However, the discovery of unequivocally modern fossils in China clouds the picture.

"Some researchers have proposed earlier dispersals in the past," said Dr Martinón-Torres.

"We really have to understand the fate of this migration. We need to find out whether it failed and they went extinct or they really did contribute to later people.

"Maybe we really are descendents of the dispersal 60,000 years ago - but we need to re-think our models. Maybe there was more than one Out of Africa migration."

Prof Chris Stringer, from London's Natural History Museum said the new study was "a game-changer" in the debate about the spread of modern humans.

"Many workers (often including me) have argued that the early dispersal of modern humans from Africa into the Levant recorded by the fossils from Skhul and Qafzeh at about 120,000 years ago was essentially a failed dispersal which went little or no further than Israel."

"However, the large sample of teeth from Daoxian seem unquestionably modern in their size and morphology, and they look to be well-dated by uranium-thorium methods to at least 80,000 years. At first sight this seems to be consistent with an early dispersal across southern Asia by a population resembling those known from Skhul and Qafzeh.

"But the Daoxian fossils resemble recent human teeth much more than they look like those from Skhul and Qafzeh, which retain more primitive traits. So either there must have been rapid evolution of the dentitions of a Skhul-Qafzeh type population in Asia by about 80,000 years, or the Daoxian teeth represent a hitherto-unsuspected early and separate dispersal of more modern-looking humans."

Dr Martinón-Torres said the study could also shed light on why it took Homo sapiens another 40,000 years to settle Europe.

Perhaps the presence of the Neanderthals kept our species out of westernmost Eurasia until our evolutionary cousins started to dwindle in number. However, it's also possible that modern humans - who started out as a tropical species - were not as well-conditioned as the Neanderthals for the icy climate in Europe.

She noted that while modern humans occupied the warmer south of China 80,000 years ago, the colder regions of central and northern China appear to be settled by more primitive human groups who may have been Asian relatives of the Neanderthals.

Fossil teeth place humans in Asia '20,000 years early' - BBC News



I strongly believe that Africa is not the "FIRST MAN LAND" but its ASIA.

CITY FOUND THAT EXISTED 32000 YEARS AGO.

 
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White/European have the belief that their ancestors are Africans. That's fine, however in China's case, a different breed of humanoid developed apart from the one found in Africa. In China, fossil of the 'Peking man' indicates that Chinese people are in fact indigenous to China. We can clearly see Chinese DNA spreading all across East Asia and to an extent Southeast Asia.

No doubt about that. chinese have a lot of denisovan admixture. chinese probably evolved independently from us African-descendents. @Nihonjin1051

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Teeth reveal that modern humans lived in Asia 80,000 years ago
Source:Xinhua Published: 2015-10-15 20:18:31


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Photo provided by the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology under the Chinese Academy of Sciences shows tooth fossils found in Daoxian county in central China's Hunan Province. These tooth fossils indicate the early form of modern homo sapiens appeared in the region more than 80,000 years ago. The 47 fossils, found in Daoxian county, date back from 80,000 to 120,000 years and are believed to be the oldest remains of a completely modern form scientists have known in the east Asia region, the study's leading scientists said on Oct. 15, 2015. (Xinhua)

Tooth fossils found in Central China's Hunan Province indicate an early form of modern Homo sapiens lived in the region more than 80,000 years ago.

The 47 fossils, found in Daoxian county, date back 80,000 to 120,000 years and are believed to be the oldest remains of a completely modern human scientists have found in the East Asia region, the study's leading scientists said on Thursday.

The research, conducted by Chinese and foreign academic institutes since 2010, was led by Liu Wu and Wu Xiujie from the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology under the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) as well as Cai Yanjun from CAS's Institute of Earth Environment.

Researchers found that size of the teeth in Daoxian are considerably smaller than those found in humans in the mid-and-late Pleistocene era, indicating that they belong to much earlier humans.

However, their short, thin roots and crown shapes are typical for modern Homo sapiens, according to the scientists.

Cai said they used uranium-series dating, carbon-14 testing and surrounding animal analysis to determine to age of the fossils.

Previous studies indicated that humans with modern features started to appear in West Asia and Europe as early as about 50,000 years ago.

Remains of Homo sapiens dating before 45,000 years ago, which have been found in the Asia-Pacific region and are in good condition, are rare.

The latest finding gives more evidence of the earliest presence of modern humans in this region, Wu said.

These results will also help the study of the origin and migration of modern humans in the region.

This latest finding was published in the Thursday edition of the prestigious journal Nature.
 
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Modern day Chinese are not related to Peking men. They were all die off. Modern Chinese migrated out of Africa like everyone else. This is proven and not up to debate.
Not really. Recent findings have shown that Africans do not have Neanderthal gene but others do. This prove there are multiple branches of Humanoids that existed.
 
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That also inline with genetic which shows the Human path spreading from Southern China and Vietnam to North. Genetics already found genetics in Vietnam and Southern China are oldest. Those places are the land of Yue people before invasion from Northern China.
This also inline with IQ of Southern Chinese and Vietnamese higher than those northern Chinese.
This defeats delusional Chinese theory nordsinic, altaic superior craps.
No wonder most geniuses in Vietnam have southern mongoloid looking faces, while nothern mongoloid are not many.

Southern Chinese are more closely related to Northern Chinese than to Viet my friend.

Northern Chinese are not Altaic, they are just Sino-Tibetan who belongs to the same family as the Southern Chinese.
 
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The Chinese have never been the type to "exterminate " they're a hardy stock, but mostly an agrarian and trade based society. They never were the type to wipe out anything; if anything they are good at growing their society, prospering and assimilating with near societies.

We are a hardy bunch. One has to especially if one is living in a barren and resource poor group of islands. The weak will die off to make room for the strong. We have been fighting and killing each lord for power for thousands of years, so our brutal and warrior mentality is ingrained.

Japan did not rise to power and dared to invade larger powers by being weak and reticent. One must gamble to win .

Here are some Chinese agrarian bronze spearheads from the Shang Dynasty, clearly used for farming.:agree:

File:Bronze spearheads, Shang Dynasty.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Got any similar artifacts produced by Japan's amazing warrior civilization? Anything even within a thousand years after the Shang Dynasty?:disagree:
 
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Here are some Chinese agrarian bronze spearheads from the Shang Dynasty, clearly used for farming.:agree:

File:Bronze spearheads, Shang Dynasty.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bronze_spearheads%2C_Shang_Dynasty.JPG


Got any similar artifacts produced by Japan's amazing warrior civilization? Anything even within a thousand years after the Shang Dynasty?:disagree:

Plenty, bro. You can find 3-5 thousand year old tools from the Jomon Jidai in any anthropological museum in Japan:

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(Mind you, thousands of years before the birth of Qin Shi Huangdi)

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Here are some Chinese agrarian bronze spearheads from the Shang Dynasty, clearly used for farming.:agree:

File:Bronze spearheads, Shang Dynasty.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bronze_spearheads%2C_Shang_Dynasty.JPG


Got any similar artifacts produced by Japan's amazing warrior civilization? Anything even within a thousand years after the Shang Dynasty?:disagree:


6,000 year old shell vase , built by Jomon folks, bro.

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No doubt about that. chinese have a lot of denisovan admixture. chinese probably evolved independently from us African-descendents. @Nihonjin1051

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Very interesting indeed. Look at the high rate of denisova allele frequency in Japanese, quite similar to South Asia. I suppose it correlates to the D2 haplotype found in most Japanese men (mitochondrial inheritence trait).
 
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Southern Chinese are more closely related to Northern Chinese than to Viet my friend.

Northern Chinese are not Altaic, they are just Sino-Tibetan who belongs to the same family as the Southern Chinese.
DNA genetic research? Im not talking about those han migration to southern China. Im talking about those natives to southern china, idiot. If you idiot still insist those natives southern China are Han, i congrat your IQ high enough to work as Chinese buffet or flip burger.
 
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This also inline with IQ of Southern Chinese and Vietnamese higher than those northern Chinese.

That also inline with genetic which shows the Human path spreading from Southern China and Vietnam to North. Genetics already found genetics in Vietnam and Southern China are oldest. Those places are the land of Yue people before invasion from Northern China.

look... what is crap, this is it!
 
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