Former Mossad Chief : Qatar number one ally of Israel in middle east

[Doritos11]

No it's not. We are the center of the Arab world and what happens in every single Arab country effects all 22 Arab countries whether we like it or not.

GCC interference is bad but Russian/Iranian/NATO etc. is good. We heard this story from angry Shias on this page hundred of times. Cheetah1986 is leading the choir as always.

If anything this is mostly a internal ARAB matter. Moreover the Syrian regime has been conspiring against fellow Arab countries with support and blessings from Tehran and that will not be acceptable for the Arab leaders, people or world. Simple as that.

Every country has its own interests especially with regards to fellow brethren. Pakistan is no different when it comes to Afghanistan.

The Arab League were all against arming any sides, sending weapons, allowing foreign intervention in the beginning of the protests (first months) but when Assad and his child-murdering gangs started to carpet bomb whole villages, towns, shot on protestors they had no other option than follow the majority of the world and support the FSA politically. Assad is only interested in keeping his power and does not care about Syria otherwise he would have stepped down long ago as many other dictators did when people were calling for their exits.

The world society (after shamefully looking silently at the crisis in Syria in my opinion) suddenly started to arm the rebels in hope of ending the conflict. In my opinion that help and a no-fly zone like that seen in Iraq in the 1990's should have been established LONG ago. It would have spared many innocent/civilian lives from all the carpet bombings of Al-Assad gangs have done. It would also have prevented victims to turn to weapons eager to revenge the death of their loved ones.

Now you have heavily radicalized/traumatized sites and no hope of settling the conflict politically but only militarily. A shame for Syria, the Arab world, the stability of the region and ultimately the world.

Because at the end we all know that the opposition and majority of Syria (Sunnis) will prevail and the longer the Assad shelling and brutality continues the more the majority of Syrians will want revenge and this will again negatively influence the region.

Wrong again, Egypt is the center of the Arab world, geographically and politically.
Therefor if the Arab world would unite, Cairo would be the capital.

 

[al-Hasani]

Wrong again, Egypt is the center of the Arab world, geographically and politically.
Therefor if the Arab world would unite, Cairo would be the capital.

I don't think you understand the meaning of center. You know the land of the Two Holy Mosques, the biggest Arab economy, most influential Arab country, biggest Arab country. Not to even mention GCC as a whole.

The Arabian Peninsula will always be the center of the Arab world/most important for being the original homeland of Arabs. Apart from the most important part (Makkah and Madinah). This is why every single power/Caliphate always sought to control Makkah and Madinah.

Egypt is a very important Sunni Arab country as well and they have the exact same view of the Syrian conflict as GCC and the Arab League. The only two Arab countries who don't agree is Algeria (Berber dictator and key Russian ally in North Africa) and Iraq (which we know is because of Iran). The remaining 20 countries decided to arm the opposition. But Iraq even permitted and turned a blind eye to shipments of weapons from Iran as the only Arab country. Several Iraqi Shia volunteers have travelled to Syria to fight for Al-Assad. Ironically many Iraqi Sunni Arabs also fight inside of Syria just for the other side. I can't think of another country who has it like that. Tells about the chaos in that country.

Anyway 20>2.

 

[mohsen]

No it's not. We are the center of the Arab world and what happens in every single Arab country effects all 22 Arab countries whether we like it or not.

GCC interference is bad but Russian/Iranian/NATO etc. is good. We heard this story from angry Shias on this page hundred of times. Cheetah1986 is leading the choir as always.

If anything this is mostly a internal ARAB matter. Moreover the Syrian regime has been conspiring against fellow Arab countries with support and blessings from Tehran and that will not be acceptable for the Arab leaders, people or world. Simple as that.

Every country has its own interests especially with regards to fellow brethren. Pakistan is no different when it comes to Afghanistan.

The Arab League were all against arming any sides, sending weapons, allowing foreign intervention in the beginning of the protests (first months) but when Assad and his child-murdering gangs started to carpet bomb whole villages, towns, shot on protestors they had no other option than follow the majority of the world and support the FSA politically. Assad is only interested in keeping his power and does not care about Syria otherwise he would have stepped down long ago as many other dictators did when people were calling for their exits.

The world society (after shamefully looking silently at the crisis in Syria in my opinion) suddenly started to arm the rebels in hope of ending the conflict. In my opinion that help and a no-fly zone like that seen in Iraq in the 1990's should have been established LONG ago. It would have spared many innocent/civilian lives from all the carpet bombings of Al-Assad gangs have done. It would also have prevented victims to turn to weapons eager to revenge the death of their loved ones.

Now you have heavily radicalized/traumatized sites and no hope of settling the conflict politically but only militarily. A shame for Syria, the Arab world, the stability of the region and ultimately the world.

Because at the end we all know that the opposition and majority of Syria (Sunnis) will prevail and the longer the Assad shelling and brutality continues the more the majority of Syrians will want revenge and this will again negatively influence the region.

after this lecture do you mind answering if you really care about Syrian, then why you don't let them choose their president in a free election?

 

[al-Hasani]

Free election in a war zone? Maybe Al-Assad and his supporters (Iran) should have thought about that before killing peaceful protestors, carpet bombing whole cities, villages, towns etc. What do you expect? Flowers in return?

Whatever happened inside Al-Assad's head we will never know. He went from supporting all resistance organizations in the region (from Hamas, Hezbollah, all the resistance in Iraq) to suddenly becoming a client of Tehran.

Also the majority of Syrians could not care about elections right now. All they want is the removal of Al-Assad and the end of the conflict.

Why has no areas in the Alawi controlled Syria been attacked/targeted while only Sunni areas have been carpet bombed? Something to thing about. Of course this will be seen as a hostile act against Sunni Arabs who form 90 percent of all Arabs. Especially when this happens to fellow brethren (Arabs).

90 percent of the Syrian refugees (outside of the few thousand Kurds who escaped to Kurdistan in Northern Iraq) and few Christian families are from Sunni dominated areas and the most effected by the war such as Aleppo, Homs, Idlib etc.

The mouth piece Press TV is not going to tell you all that but we Arabs know better and receive inside reports every single day from civilian reporters, human right activists etc.

Also since when have free elections taken place in Syria? The Al-Assad family have ruled for 50 years just like most Arab rulers.


Lastly I will not repeat myself to the same 2 Pro-Assad Iranians who have no business in Syria and who use Press TV as a reliable source. Waste of time. At the end all we Arabs know that you don't have any influence/say anyway so just keep posting for the entertainment.

 

[mohsen]

Also the majority of Syrians could not care about elections right now. All they want is the removal of Al-Assad and the end of the conflict

so why you don't let them to remove him in an election, Both Iran and Asad accepted. all it takes is stopping war ,returning refugees and running an election, are you afraid to get slap from Syrian people?

 

[al-Hasani]

so why you don't let them to remove him in an election, Both Iran and Asad accepted. all it takes is stopping war ,returning refugees and running an election, are you afraid to get slap from Syrian people?

Do you understand English? I already told you that a election is impossible in a war zone. Do you care to mention me just one single country in the history of this planet who had a election in the middle of a civil war? I don't know any. Maybe you Iranians had that when you lived on the Kazakh Steppe - your original homeland. Or better, planet Mars? I am "eagerly" awaiting your reply for this question.

Secondly the majority of Syrians protested against Al-Assad in the beginning but where met with bullets, carpet bombings of whole villages, towns etc. This should give a insight in the "popularity" of Al-Assad.

Also why are you Iranians meddling in Syrian affairs? You have no influence anyway and we Arabs will never listen to you anyway and you have no importance in the Arab world. You wannabe-Arab Mullah's cannot change that despite trying to fool the illiterate masses in places like Southern Iraq.

Did you forget that Al-Assad was supporting Al-Qaeda in Iraq and all resistance groups in Iraq? Did you forget that Al-Assad is a Ba'athi and that another Ba'athi leader (Saddam Hussein) killed million of Iranians?

Blackeagle already told you to visit Syrian forums/Facebook etc. and see the sentiments about Iranians there. The word insults would be a kind description and no wonder. Not that it is any different in the rest of the Arab world Also have you ever wondered why none of your leaders have visited Syria for months? What are they afraid of? I thought that Al-Assad controlled all of Syria and that the regime would protect your Mullah's.

Lastly I will not repeat myself to the same 2 Pro-Assad Iranians who have no business in Syria and who use Press TV as a reliable source. Waste of time. At the end all we Arabs know that you don't have any influence/say anyway so just keep posting for the entertainment.

 

[mohsen]

Do you understand English? I already told you that a election is impossible in a war zone. Do you care to mention me just one single country in the history of this planet who had a election in the middle of a civil war? I don't know any. Maybe you Iranians had that when you lived on the Kazakh Steppe your original homeland. Or better, planet Mars? I am "eagerly" awaiting your reply for this question.

Secondly the majority of Syrians protested against Al-Assad in the beginning but where met with bullets, carpet bombings of whole villages, towns etc. This should give a insight in the "popularity" of Al-Assad.

Also why are you Iranians meddling in Syrian affairs? You have no influence anyway and we Arabs will never listen to you anyway and you have no importance in the Arab world. You wannabe-Arab Mullah's cannot change that despite trying to fool the illiterate masses in Southern Iraq.

Did you forget that Al-Assad was supporting Al-Qaeda in Iraq and all resistance groups in Iraq? Did you forget that Al-Assad is a Ba'athi and that another Ba'athi leader (Saddam Hussein) killed million of Iranians?

Blackeagle already told you to visit Syrian forums/Facebook etc. and see the sentiments about Iranians there. The word insults would be a kind description and no wonder. Not that it is any different in the rest of the Arab world Also have you ever wondered why none of your leaders have visited Syria for months? What are they afraid of? I thought that Al-Assad controlled all of Syria and that the regime would protect your Mullah's.

Lastly I will not repeat myself to the same 2 Pro-Assad Iranians who have no business in Syria and who use Press TV as a reliable source. Waste of time. At the end all we Arabs know that you don't have any influence/say anyway so just keep posting for the entertainment.

Syrian opposition accepted election in case Asad doesn't participate as a candidate, so running election in a war zone is possible without Asad as a candidate but imposible with Asad?
End of logic.

 

[al-Hasani]

Syrian opposition accepted election in case Asad doesn't participate as a candidate, so running election in a war zone is possible without Asad as a candidate but imposible with Asad?
End of logic.

No, they did not. Try think logically for a second and answer my questions. Are you only capable of writing one-liners? If so this "discussion" is a waste of time.

Do you care to mention me just one single country in the history of this planet who had a election in the middle of a civil war? I don't know any? Let alone a free election in a country that never had one. Are you even aware of the fact that the Al-Assad family has ruled Syria for nearly 50 years unelected as most Arab regimes? LOL. As I said try use other sources than Press TV and Iranian state TV. Moreover it is time to go to bed - it must be very late in Iran now.

 

[mohsen]

Do you care to mention me just one single country in the history of this planet who had a election in the middle of a civil war?

first of all you are not aware of "Iran's 6 point peace plan for syria", else you wouldn't say war zone.
secondly,
That was my question, How do you answer this paradox? Syrian opposition agreed with Iran's plan for election with this condition that Asad don't be one of candidates. so basically what you and opposition are saying is that running an election in middle of a civil war is possible if Asad isn't one of candidates.

and again this question comes to mind that are you afraid of that election's result?

 

[al-Hasani]

first of all you are not aware of "Iran's 6 point peace plan for syria", else you wouldn't say war zone.
secondly,
That was my question, How do you answer this paradox? Syrian opposition agreed with Iran's plan for election with this condition that Asad don't be one of candidates. so basically what you and opposition are saying is that running an election in middle of a civil war is possible if Asad isn't one of candidates.

and again this question comes to mind that are you afraid of that election's result?

You can take your "Iran-plan" (whatever that is) and hide it were the sun never shines. The Syrian Opposition want nothing to do with Iran nor should they because you have no business in Syria or any other Arab country. This is a internal Arab affair. Do you get this? Or should I repeat myself 100 times before you will understand it? The Syrians themselves will have to solve it and right now they are turning to their fellow brethren (Arabs) and not anybody else. Hence the recent decision of the Arab League (20 states voted yes - only 2 no) to arm the opposition. It cannot get more clear than this. Moreover the opposition already appealed to the international society to topple Al-Assad. They did it 1.5 years ago now.

Secondly you are unable to answer my question because the answer to my question is a big and resounding no. There have never been a election during a civil war/in a war zone, nor will a free election ever take place in a Syria were Assad is still in control simply because that never happened before. Do you also understand this? Al-Assad and his family have ruled Syria for 50 years unelected and they never conducted a fair election. Much like most Arab countries.

End of discussion.

Lastly:

 

[Hussein]

a member questioned anti Zionist news, so I posted a few links to show why we call them Zionist and not Jews.
your judgement is also funny you call them extremists cause they believe in prophesied redeemer which is common among all religions Muslims, Christians and Jews even Israeli Jews.

and yes, it's especially the job of president when Israel is our number one enemy, and when they are getting massive financial and political help yearly just because of Holocaust.
also I can sense your affection toward Israel by calling those participating in Holocaust conference fascist.

1/ there is a difference between believing somewhat in messiah come back
AND being obsessed about it, so much that they act and say the way he comes back. like hojjatieh.

2/ No i said he invited which are famous in Europe to be in Nazi partis or friend of Nazi partis, or partis very near of Nazi partis. Like DIeudonné in France. Soral is considered the extrem side of the extrem right. And so. This is fact: he invites fascists and he invites this sect.
Nothing to be proud of.

and again this question comes to mind that are you afraid of that election's result?

it would be a good idea. but controlled by UNO, and some independant countries.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Iranian members, PLEASE ignore al- Hasani he is racist and blind with hatred of of people with different beliefs... he doesn't even know the History of Arabs...

anyways..
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/157766-busted-qatar-israel.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/arab-defence/224800-qatar-calls-arabs-sheep.html

 

[al-Hasani]

Iranian members, PLEASE ignore al- Hasani he is racist and blind with hatred of of people with different beliefs... he doesn't even know the History of Arabs...

anyways..
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/157766-busted-qatar-israel.html

First of all you are not an Arab but at most a Arabized Christian. You are not even a Muslim. Secondly you did not even know where the Abbasids or Umayyads originally came from when every Arab and informed person knows that the Arab homeland is the Arabian Peninsula. And here you are teaching the Arabians about our history? Laughable but what to expect from a professional hypocrite who cries America in every second post but lives there himself and enjoys its benefit. Just like you are crying about the same persons who your beloved leader once supported in Iraq and elsewhere. (resistance groups and Al-Qaeda in Iraq)

We know that you and your beloved leader Al-Assad turned into a Iranian puppet after parading himself as one of the global Arab leaders and fooling us Arabs but that is why there is work in the process to eradicate that plan once and for all so Syrian leadership can return to Islam and Arabism again.

 

[mohsen]

You can take your "Iran-plan" (whatever that is) and hide it were the sun never shines. The Syrian Opposition want nothing to do with Iran nor should they because you have no business in Syria or any other Arab country. This is a internal Arab affair. Do you get this? Or should I repeat myself 100 times before you will understand it? The Syrians themselves will have to solve it and right now they are turning to their fellow brethren (Arabs) and not anybody else. Hence the recent decision of the Arab League (20 states voted yes - only 2 no) to arm the opposition. It cannot get more clear than this. Moreover the opposition already appealed to the international society to topple Al-Assad. They did it 1.5 years ago now.

keep those pan-arabism thoughts to your self, It doesn't need any further comment.

Secondly you are unable to answer my question because the answer to my question is a big and resounding no. There have never been a election during a civil war/in a war zone, nor will a free election ever take place in a Syria were Assad is still in control simply because that never happened before. Do you also understand this? Al-Assad and his family have ruled Syria for 50 years unelected and they never conducted a fair election. Much like most Arab countries.

End of discussion.

so even if that election is under UN observation, Asad magically will win the election.
you see, you are indirectly saying Asad is the winner of such a election.

 

[Syrian Lion]

First of all you are not an Arab but at most a Arabized Christian. You are not even a Muslim. Secondly you did not even know where the Abbasids or Umayyads originally came from when every Arab and informed person knows that the Arab homeland is the Arabian Peninsula. And here you are teaching the Arabians about our history? Laughable but what to expect from a professional hypocrite who cries America in every second post but lives there himself and enjoys its benefit. Just like you are crying about the same persons who your beloved leader once supported in Iraq and elsewhere. (resistance groups and Al-Qaeda in Iraq)

We know that you and your beloved leader Al-Assad turned into a Iranian puppet after parading himself as one of the global Arab leaders and fooling us Arabs but that is why there is work in the process to eradicate that plan once and for all so Syrian leadership can return to Islam and Arabism again.

if being an Arabs mean being a puppet of Israel, then screw that definition of being "Arab"... look at you here supporting Israel.. Alasad had many plans to unite Arabs. but puppets couldn't even do anything because they fear Israel... \

and darn it, I just broke my own rule by answering you...