Former IoK chief ministers Mufti, Abdullah placed under house arrest; curfew imposed

[SleeveofWizard]

Don't agree with the house arrest, a very stupid decision, but yes, about time the state was divided into 3 parts. Buddhist dominated Ladakh and Hindu dominated Jammu very different from the kashmir valley. Time for development to come to these regions and people from other parts of India freely settling down there. Lot of industries avoid the whole state of J&K thinking that insurgency is spread all over, while the fact is that is only spread in a few districts Srinagar, Pulwama, Baramulla, Anantang and a few more. Kashmiris can do their rioting and stone pelting forever, shouldn't stop the rest of the areas from getting their share of development. In any case Pak occupied kashmir's demographics have already been greatly altered with millions of punjabis settling there, no reason for us to keep our side of the bargain.

This is the worst possible time for India to do anything like this ---- India economy is in bad shape ---- there will be more attrition of money if war breaks out.

Yea, and Pakistan's economy is doing great . We are at least growing at 6%, Pakistan's growth rate, taking into account the rupee depreciation is actually negative. Couldn't have chosen a better time, you people simply have no money to engage into a conflict. You are in such a dire state that you literally had to kiss IMFs feet to get that 6 billion. That entire money could be exhausted in less than 2 weeks in case of even a limited conflict. Also if you actually end up having to pay $5.8 billion to that copper company(Tethan copper) against whom you lost in the World bank court, then its game over as it is. You already have to pay $1 billion to that Turkish firm - Karkey something.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Yea, and Pakistan's economy is doing great . We are at least growing at 6%, Pakistan's growth rate, taking into account the rupee depreciation is actually negative. Couldn't have chosen a better time, you people simply have no money to engage into a conflict. You are in such a dire state that you literally had to kiss IMFs feet to get that 6 billion. That entire money could be exhausted in less than 2 weeks in case of even a limited conflict.

Look at it this way! we never had a great economy. We have never been rich and we have nothing to lose, everything to gain.
In addition, there is a fundamental difference between the two nation's ideologies. We know for a fact that the life after is better than this one, Hindus only have their Aatma reincarnated into this world.

 

[American Pakistani]

Yes, Azadi from terrorism and terrorists..

Exactly, the 7.5 lakh indian occupier terrorists.

 

[Kabira]

I read somewhere else that modi is bypassing the parliament w.r.t 370 e.t.c via governor through some special powers and going for trifurcation.

This is probable reason for house arrest.

LOC is just a gimmick for suppression of kashmiris once the above is done.


The are speeding it up due to Trump's comments.

If in future any negotiations happen (least likely) only Kashmir valley may be up for negotiation if modi does the trifurcation.

Personally speaking if the people are what matters to us rather than land then we should negotiate for vacation of siachen by India and for Kashmir valley. India can keep Jammu and ladakh and we shall be done with it.

However, if India wants us to get into a conflict so that afghan peace process gets sidelined then we should turn up the heat in IOK and afghanistan.

W.r.t Kashmir, other than LOC action Pakistan should only get involved if the IOK kashmiris are up for it.

India is probably going to divide IoK.

Remember this is what people in Ladakh and Jammu want.

 

[SleeveofWizard]

Look at it this way! we never had a great economy. We have never been rich and we have nothing to lose, everything to gain.
In addition, there is a fundamental difference between the two nation's ideologies. We know for a fact that the life after is better than this one, Hindus only have their Aatma reincarnated into this world.

Well since you have never died and cannot speak to anyone who has died, its pretty silly for you to think that there is even a life after death and moreover, that it is actually better than this one. All your theories are based on a book written by bedouin man from in the 6th century, not really a credible source.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Well since you have never died and cannot speak to anyone who has died, its pretty silly for you to think that there is even a life after death and moreover, that it is actually better than this one. All your theories are based on a book written by bedouin man from in the 6th century, not really a credible source.

Really???
I think you don't know the history of your own land over the last 1400-years - or may be you want to remain obtuse.
Open your eyes and brain (if you have one) and you will see what impact this belief and philosophy has made in your own land.
Do you know how many Hindus go to the Mazar of the Saint buried in Delhi? (and this is just one example).

 

[Yaseen1]

India is no more a democracy.It has turned in to civil dictatorship

 

[SleeveofWizard]

Really???
I think you don't know the history of your own land over the last 1400-years - or may be you want to remain obtuse.
Open your eyes and brain (if you have one) and you will see what impact this belief and philosophy has made in your own land.
Do you know how many Hindus go to the Mazar of the Saint buried in Delhi? (and this is just one example).

Yes, a this belief has in the past had a great impact on our history, but no more. The number of people who believe in such stuff is shrinking day by day. Anyone who has been to a good school or college doesn't really care about this belief. People believed in this for 1400 years since literally rate was like 0-1%. Now the literacy rate is like 80%, at least in India. Even in the past, not everyone believed in it. The kings, nobels and the rich(who were educated) knew for sure there was nothing of the sort and they used to enjoy life -phuck sluuuts, do drugs, drink wine, have concubines. Meanwhile, the stupid god fearing illiterate peasants(99% of the population) worried about the afterlife. It's the same case in many muslim countries today. Kings and Princes in Saudi Arabia go off to Europe every summer to do cocaine, alcohol and phuck prostitutes while the gullible population is taught to fear god and pray 5 times a day. Hilarious. These beliefs are a form of mind control to keep you in check. Remember, if there was an afterlife, the person asking you to blow yourself up would be the first one to do so.

 

[Rusty]

1930s Nazi Germany Return of the Aryans.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Yes, a this belief has in the past had a great impact on our history, but no more. The number of people who believe in such stuff is shrinking day by day. Anyone who has been to a good school or college doesn't really care about this belief. People believed in this for 1400 years since literally rate was like 0-1%. Now the literacy rate is like 80%, at least in India. Even in the past, not everyone believed in it. The kings, nobels and the rich(who were educated) knew for sure there was nothing of the sort and they used to enjoy life -phuck sluuuts, do drugs, drink wine, have concubines. Meanwhile, the stupid god fearing illiterate peasants(99% of the population) worried about the afterlife. It's the same case in many muslim countries today. Kings and Princes in Saudi Arabia go off to Europe every summer to do cocaine, alcohol and phuck prostitutes while the gullible population is taught to fear god and pray 5 times a day. Hilarious. These beliefs are a form of mind control to keep you in check. Remember, if there was an afterlife, the person asking you to blow yourself up would be the first one to do so.

Again! you are on the wrong path.....wrong acts of the individuals do not make the philosophy wrong.
If Modi comes to power by elections and claims to be democratic, but acts like a fascist; then democracy does not get nullified.

Numbers shrinking by the day? I don't know where you get your stats; or may be it is just like your belief in reincarnation.
The fact is that the numbers are increasing, even after 9/11 and even after all the hate campaign over the last 15-years.

The belief has no impact on you anymore? go and ask L.K.Advani - what is he reading. Go and ask Amitabh-bachan what is he reading. Go and ask all those thousands of Hindus who visit Khuwajah Nizam-Uddin tomb everyday.

Your keyboard war cannot change the facts on the ground.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Yes, a this belief has in the past had a great impact on our history, but no more. The number of people who believe in such stuff is shrinking day by day. Anyone who has been to a good school or college doesn't really care about this belief. People believed in this for 1400 years since literally rate was like 0-1%. Now the literacy rate is like 80%, at least in India. Even in the past, not everyone believed in it. The kings, nobels and the rich(who were educated) knew for sure there was nothing of the sort and they used to enjoy life -phuck sluuuts, do drugs, drink wine, have concubines. Meanwhile, the stupid god fearing illiterate peasants(99% of the population) worried about the afterlife. It's the same case in many muslim countries today. Kings and Princes in Saudi Arabia go off to Europe every summer to do cocaine, alcohol and phuck prostitutes while the gullible population is taught to fear god and pray 5 times a day. Hilarious. These beliefs are a form of mind control to keep you in check. Remember, if there was an afterlife, the person asking you to blow yourself up would be the first one to do so.

Riggghht. Were the guys about to sacrifice a toddler part of that 80% of literate people then?

Why do you assume literacy correlates with an ability to reason rationally enough to not engage in human sacrifice or attacks on "witches"?

Thank God we don't have such literate individuals here. Literate or illiterate, brainwashed Indians can only seem to listen to the rantings of mad men who claim someone in the village is to blame for a bad harvest, or perhaps some other nation is to blame for Kashmiris rejecting beef lynching and jayshreeram attacks. So you can take your bs about "magical Indian secular atheists" and stick it in the same bunghole as the Hindutva cabal. You're equally delusional as your Hindutva buddies and one day you're gonna wake up and realise that. Indian atheists are more deluded than Indian Hindutva. At least the average saffronista can declare he is behaving irrationally because his swami told him to. Wtf is your excuse?

 

[SleeveofWizard]

Riggghht. Were the guys about to sacrifice a toddler part of that 80% of literate people then?

Why do you assume literacy correlates with an ability to reason rationally enough to not engage in human sacrifice or attacks on "witches"?

Thank God we don't have such literate individuals here. Literate or illiterate, brainwashed Indians can only seem to listen to the rantings of mad men who claim someone in the village is to blame for a bad harvest, or perhaps some other nation is to blame for Kashmiris rejecting beef lynching and jayshreeram attacks. So you can take your bs about "magical Indian secular atheists" and stick it in the same bunghole as the Hindutva cabal. You're equally delusional as your Hindutva buddies and one day you're gonna wake up and realise that. Indian atheists are more deluded than Indian Hindutva. At least the average saffronista can declare he is behaving irrationally because his swami told him to. Wtf is your excuse?

Idiot, as i said, literacy rate is 80%, which leaves 20% of the loonies still out there, who are basically the people engaging in all this sacrifice, witchcraft etc. In Pakistan, the literacy rate is 60%, so 40% loonies out there, also you people count Madrassa education as education, which is hilarious. Madrassa education is probably worse than having no education at all. So even 60% is too far-fetched, the real literacy rate is probably less than 50%, which leaves 50% loonies out there. We are not quite there yet but miles ahead of you.

 

[ziaulislam]

Time for Pakistan to do an all out publicity blitz.
We need to remind the world that India is behaving just like 1930s Nazi Germany.

Well seems you are totally ignorant of history ..

French did worst killing AFTER nazi era and nobody cared..

Noone will care as India is the new heaven for western interests

 

[Kabira]

Idiot, as i said, literacy rate is 80%, which leaves 20% of the loonies still out there, who are basically the people engaging in all this sacrifice, witchcraft etc. In Pakistan, the literacy rate is 60%, so 40% loonies out there, also you people count Madrassa education as education, which is hilarious. Madrassa education is probably worse than having no education at all. So even 60% is too far-fetched, the real literacy rate is probably less than 50%, which leaves 50% loonies out there. We are not quite there yet but miles ahead of you.

I think Modi shows Indian standard of education.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Idiot, as i said, literacy rate is 80%, which leaves 20% of the loonies still out there, who are basically the people engaging in all this sacrifice, witchcraft etc. In Pakistan, the literacy rate is 60%, so 40% loonies out there, also you people count Madrassa education as education, which is hilarious. Madrassa education is probably worse than having no education at all. So even 60% is too far-fetched, the real literacy rate is probably less than 50%, which leaves 50% loonies out there. We are not quite there yet but miles ahead of you.

But you're still directly equating "literacy" with rational and objective thought. Bhakts and atheist bhakt sympathisers like you may well have literacy skills, but clearly lack the rationality to accept that Kashmiris are fully entitled to reject a nation which cannot guarantee them safety from beef lynching or jayshreeram attacks.

Give me a madrassa type over one of you supposedly literate atheist Indians any day of the damn week. You Indian atheists disgust me more than your bhakt cousins. You are only about 5% at best of your nation's population, yet you pretend to be a superior elite compared with the saffron riders based on your rejection of Hinduism, (Hinduism isn't the problem with India - HINDUTVA is), yet you agree with pretty much everything they do and quietly twiddle your thumbs when Muslims are oppressed.

As for the literacy issue, I recall recently how LAWYERS and others from civil literate indian society gleefully protested in violent support of Hindu rapists of a Muslim minor. You need to be at peace with the plain truth that literates, illiterates, bhakts, atheists, seculars and liberals are all fake divisions in your country when it comes to bashing Pakistan and Kashmir. You wanted that land that didn't belong to you and the desires of the Kashmiris didn't matter one bit. That is your bs legacy, be you literate, atheist or whatever else it is that makes you feel superior to Hindutva types.