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FOREIGN FIGHTER JETS AREN'T BETTER THAN ALL-INDIAN TEJAS, PERIOD

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by Bharat Karnad

A planned vilification campaign is now underway against the indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft program. It has been initiated in newspapers and internet sites. It’s now even on television — with TV channel reporters always ready for a joy ride in the Swedish SAAB Gripen NG or the American Lockheed Martin F-16, talking down Tejas as they have done in the past. (See, for example)

This campaign is framed around a briefing by the Indian Air Force (IAF) and demanded by National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, who, supposedly, wanted some clarity on the single-engine aircraft the service is pushing for to, in quick time, enlarge a fieldable force of fighter squadrons.

The Laughable Comparisons

Some of the comparisons of the 4.5 generation Tejas with Gripen and F-16 are laughable but swallowed whole by the press and electronic media that don’t know any better. The IAF is dead set against the antique F-16. And unless the Modi government succumbs to the Trumpian pressure (already evident in Mattis’ and Tillerson’s visits) and compels IAF to buy this wretched old aircraft — and set back the indigenous defense industry by another 60 years, as last happened when the Indira Gandhi government and the IAF bought the Jaguar and killed off the Marut Mk-II in the 1970s — there’s no way the F-16 will sport the IAF roundels.

So, the fight is really between the home-grown and home-designed Tejas and the foreign Swedish Maal.

On the notional basis of the performance so far of the LCA operational ‘Flying Daggers’ 45 Squadron at Sulur AFB, Andhra Pradesh, these are the issues and figures given out which will be dealt with here ad seriatim.

Truth is that right now the maintenance time is 14 hrs per 100 hrs of flight. But this is an entirely new aircraft with built-in diagnostic systems that are experience-driven. Meaning, the more the maintenance crews become conversant with the aircraft, the less is the time they spend on its upkeep. Moreover, the maintenance hours put in on the aircraft is also a function of the confidence of the pilots in the fighter plane.

An entirely new genus of aircraft necessarily results naturally in greater wariness of the pilots and their requirement that even the minutest doubts they may have be addressed. In other words, with more Tejas entering squadron service and more pilots becoming familiar with it on the basis of the sharing of piloting experience and technical solutions, the less will be the demand for the kind of thorough maintenance the LCA presently is subjected to, and the maintenance protocol will be adjusted over time to trim the upkeep timeline. This is ABSOLUTELY NORMAL.

Know the Difference Between F-16 and Tejas
In contrast, the F-16 is a 50-year old aircraft whose basic planform/architecture hasn't changed a whit even as bells and whistles have been added periodically to upgrade the aircraft. It is as comfortable as your old pyjamas. And by which reckoning, perhaps, the IAF can call back the old Hunter aircraft — which was a wonderfully easy aircraft to fly and maintain.

The Gripen, likewise, has logged a huge number of hours and because our military is institutionally inclined to accept anything foreign on faith, the Swedish item apparently evinces no worries.

Even more farcical is the IAF’s griping about ‘endurance’ — one hour for the Tejas vs three hours for Gripen and six hours for F-16. Here, the IAF is borrowing from the Indian Navy’s rejection of the naval LCA.

But the Tejas wing area (storing fuel) is larger at 38.4 square metres compared to 30 square metres for Gripen. So, how to explain the touted figures? Easy — compare apples and oranges!

What is quoted for Gripen is its ferry range, for Tejas the fully mission-loaded operational range at 0.7 Mach speeds. Is this fair?

Further, if aerial refuellers are used, the LCA range can be increased manifold (just as Gripen’s can be and F-16s). This was proven when the Tejas flew to Bahrain for the 2016 Air Show with ONE refueling stop.

Even more ridiculous are the purported concerns about the Tejas’ lifespan – 20 years vs 40 years for the Gripen/F-16.

The fact is that the normal life of planes is 25 to 30 years, or 3,000 flying hours. The Tejas has been designed for four times this span at 12,000 hours. At 3,000 opl hours is when the airframe of the LCA will have to undergo strenuous tests to ensure there is no metal fatigue.
But in 30 years, manned combat aircraft will be fully extinct. They actually already are, as I have repeatedly pointed out.

So whether the Tejas lasts 12,000 hours is hardly relevant, no more in any case than whether the F-16 will be mission ready in its 100th year with IAF.

One fervently hopes the Narendra Modi regime has enough sense to not buy the F-16 museum piece, and Doval to see that the Tejas is not being sidelined just so the purchase of the Gripen goes through.

If IAF wants more combat aircraft quickly, farm out the production of the Tejas to the private sector, which I have been suggesting for many years now. With two aircraft production lines at HAL and two, three, or even four more lines with one each for Tata, L&T, Mahindra, and Reliance Aerospace (throw in the Adanis — if Modi is determined on it) — with each rolling out 18 LCAs per year — the IAF will have a large force of constantly improved and upgraded Tejas LCAs in less time than it will take to get the game up with Gripen/F-16.

It will also once and for all shut down all excuses for looking abroad for “single engine” fighters.

The comparable cost, clean configuration (with respect to weapons, etc): Tejas for $25 million, Gripen $50 million, and the rocking chair-ready F-16 at $100 million. WHERE’S THE COMPETITION?

But the military services have realized that they can meet their craving for imported hardware by simply riding on Modi’s ill-conceived ‘Make in India’ policy, which makes nonsense of it.

Stop this procurement nonsense, madam Defense Minister Nirmala Sitharaman. And as first order of business, instruct Vayu Bhavan to immediately terminate the vilification campaign against the Tejas.

And messengers Modi and Doval better take note.

https://www.thequint.com/voices/opinion/tejas-iaf-vilification-campaign-f16
 
The Tejas program is making steady progress. I would rather see 15 squadrons of Tejas over F16s/ Gripens. The MK1A and MK 2 are worth investing in. The IAF should move towards a capable Indian platform(as close to 100% Indian made as possible). An upgrded Kaveri made with French help, and an Indian AESA radar could be used in future models.

This being said, I am not for all Indian DRDO/OFB projects. I personally have thought the Arjun MBT program should have been cancelled years ago as the platform is far too heavy for Indian needs (plus it is more German than Indian).
 
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IAF & Indira Gandhi's Congress killed the Marut in favor of Migs and French fighters. If IAF stalls Tejas in favor of foreign fighters for kickbacks and commissions, that would result in pushing the Indian aeronautical development back by 50+ years. No country could ever achieve indigenization if their home grown projects are put in jeopardy.

I hope UN puts sanctions on India restricting us from importing defense equipment. At least thn we can fully concentrate on developing indigenous weapons systems with private sector's cooperation
 
The article refers to the F-16 as a "museum piece", a "wretched old antique".

All the F-16 production lines are closing down, only India can save it by making a really big order.
 
IAF & Indira Gandhi's Congress killed the Marut in favor of Migs and French fighters. If IAF stalls Tejas in favor of foreign fighters for kickbacks and commissions, that would result in pushing the Indian aeronautical development back by 50+ years. No country could ever achieve indigenization if their home grown projects are put in jeopardy.

They need to continue Tejas--->AMCA route, but there are benefits to the F16/Gripen deal, it'll end HAL monopoly over defence aerospace and introduce TATA's aerospace wing, or Adani's aero wing into it.

It'll be a sight to see these private sector behemoths manage their own defence aerospace ecosystem. Splitting Tejas, MII SE birds to fill the void of MiGs is fine by me. If this is played right, it's be a leap for India's aerospace actually.
 
They need to continue Tejas--->AMCA route, but there are benefits to the F16/Gripen deal, it'll end HAL monopoly over defence aerospace and introduce TATA's aerospace wing, or Adani's aero wing into it.

It'll be a sight to see these private sector behemoths manage their own defence aerospace ecosystem. Splitting Tejas, MII SE birds to fill the void of MiGs is fine by me. If this is played right, it's be a leap for India's aerospace actually.
What you said might be true but I have little hopes that both the Yankees and Swedes would offer significant tech transfer for MII to our private defense firms. I'm pretty sure it would be more of a nut and bolt job just like our MKI's.

GoI should make sure any indigenous project undertaken by PSUs should have significant contribution from private Indian defense firms and consider the option of privatizing non-performing PSUs like the OFBs. Development agencies like DRDO, ARDE etc should focus on R&D and should hand over the production to private defense firms and contemporary project management & quality control mechanisms should be put in place for DPSUs

Indigenization and development of OEMs and Tier-I/II defense aerospace suppliers wouldn't become a reality if IAF orders a token # of Tejas and divert those funds to procure foreign SE fighters just like how IA screwed up Arjun even though it is a formidable MBT which exceeded T-90s in comparison trails and is now scouting for an FRCV from foreign firms.
 
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I agree LCA need to be accepted to give domestic manufacturing capabilities a kickstart. Even it's obsolete but still better than Mig-21 bison which form bulk of IAF.

As the domestic industries gets hang of it, they will improve and get better.
 
What you said might be true but I have little hopes that both the Yankees and Swedes would offer significant tech transfer for MII to our private defense firms. I'm pretty sure it would be more of a nut and bolt job just like our MKI's.


Let's be 100% here, who is going to give you significant tech transfer now a days? Even the Russians on several occasions withdrew certain key elements, which ended up delaying several programs. Even shouting IP violation against India, which China, or Eastern European countries dont give a **** about.

I dont expect significant tech transfer, I expect them to becoming lead integrators, with modern infrastructure to test and certify these birds. That process cant be monopolized by HAL forever. Outside OEMs will give that.

They can eventually jointly produce homegrown designs with DRDO, or even do inhouse programs leveraging domestic, or international design agencies. Tejas/AMCA needs to happen, at the same time for me, HAL cant monopolize defence aerospace.
 
Let's be 100% here, who is going to give you significant tech transfer now a days? Even the Russians on several occasions withdrew certain key elements, which ended up delaying several programs. Even shouting IP violation against India, which China, or Eastern European countries dont give a **** about.

I dont expect significant tech transfer, I expect them to becoming lead integrators, with modern infrastructure to test and certify these birds. That process cant be monopolized by HAL forever. Outside OEMs will give that.

They can eventually jointly produce homegrown designs with DRDO, or even do inhouse programs leveraging domestic, or international design agencies. Tejas/AMCA needs to happen, at the same time for me, HAL cant monopolize defence aerospace.
I certainly agree with you while I am not expecting them to give us the source codes when I meant significant tech transfer. They should make the bird's fuselages, wings, avionics, radars, engines in the long-run in India (just like how HAL is being the lead integrator for Tejas while procuring major components from private firms) rather than importing every component from their country and asking our private firms just to assemble it which I fear would definitely be the case if F-16 is considered.

I would never want any DPSU to monopolize any segment as that is the blunder we've created over the past couple of decades which lead to a complete stand-still of our defense industry and major reforms should be implemented to revamp the non-performing DPSUs. GoI should allocate funds not just to PSUs but also private firms and build more modern design & testing facilities to develop new tech and should focus on building the fab/semi-conductor industry
 
There is just no point limiting Tejas etc.

Even if its bad its mine. Keep up the learning curve, the next versions will be much better, lets learn something from Marut episode.
 
The IAF is wrong

Common street idiot, fan boys are right


How can the indian military reject the Desert Ferrari Arjun and Tejas

Its all the corrupt babus and presstitues I tell ya!
 

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