For the Hindus who are ashamed to be associated with Hindutva......

[sankranti]

Points to ponder .......

 

[bronxbull]

Dude,There is enough material available already.

One has to just look at the lifestyle of their parents and anyone who has seen even a little bit of the 80s and the early 90s ll know the reality.

Today's kids have no real idea of the past and mostly offer half-baked stuff and show a sheer inability to think deeply beyond what they are taught.

nonetheles,let me see what people reply here.

 

[sankranti]

Indian tradition seeks a Guru to explain better what you already may or may not believe. Dr. Swamy is talking about a book by Rajiv Malhotra in this speech. Let me present to you the same Rajiv Malhotra so that 'secular' Hindus can make up their own mind....

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

There is nothing ashamed to be asssociated with one Ideology or Hindutva in this case. I am a proud Hindu, but the problems arise, when some people try to brainwash others.
Secondly there is no uniformity of religion in Santana Darma, which is proving to be a major problem. People like TN, have different list of "Important" temples and practises whereas people in the north have different.
Moreover, there was never a Hindutva law of any kind in any book. There was different laws for different people based on their occupation and status. For Eg, Kshatriyas had their own laws, Brahmans had their laws, Ancient Doctors had their own laws.
Which one are we to follow, if there is to a Hindutva tumo? Either Hindu religious leaders from all over the country have to sit, discuss and find a solution, but they are not doinf that.

 

[sankranti]

My answer is unlikely to please you .......but the problem is scholar of Hindu scriptures and people who study it in great detail and debate it are called Brahmins and they are the one who can answer your question. I have no doubt that like most 'secular' Indians you have been socially programmed to 'hate' brahmins and it is unlikely that you would ever consider going to them to understand Hinduism ......so the only solution you have is to study all the hindu scriptures yourselves.

You might seek a 'Guru' but again truly 'secular' Hindus do not do that .....do they ?

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

My answer is unlikely to please you .......but the problem is scholar of Hindu scriptures and people who study it in great detail and debate it are called Brahmins and they are the one who can answer your question. I have no doubt that like most 'secular' Indians you have been socially programmed to 'hate' brahmins and it is unlikely that you would ever consider going to them to understand Hinduism ......so the only solution you have is to study all the hindu scriptures yourselves.

You might seek a 'Guru' but again truly 'secular' Hindus do not do that .....do they ?

Now, Now where in my post have I said anything about Brahmins? can u point out?
And its u, implying the superiorty of Brahmins here as they alone know the script or Vedas. But the debate was not on them.
And ur reply is not even 1pc, related to my answer or post.

 

[angeldude13]

There is nothing ashamed to be asssociated with one Ideology or Hindutva in this case. I am a proud Hindu, but the problems arise, when some people try to brainwash others.
Secondly there is no uniformity of religion in Santana Darma, which is proving to be a major problem. People like TN, have different list of "Important" temples and practises whereas people in the north have different.
Moreover, there was never a Hindutva law of any kind in any book. There was different laws for different people based on their occupation and status. For Eg, Kshatriyas had their own laws, Brahmans had their laws, Ancient Doctors had their own laws.
Which one are we to follow, if there is to a Hindutva tumo? Either Hindu religious leaders from all over the country have to sit, discuss and find a solution, but they are not doinf that.

what????
you want people like nirmal baba,asaram daku and shri shri ravishankar to sit together????

 

[sankranti]

Now, Now where in my post have I said anything about Brahmins? can u point out?

This is what you said "Kshatriyas had their own laws, Brahmans had their laws, Ancient Doctors had their own laws.".....I was merely trying to correct your ignorance. I did warn you that my answer will not please you.

And its u, implying the superiorty of Brahmins here as they alone know the script or Vedas. But the debate was not on them.

au contraire it is you who is implying that knowing Hindu scriptures make them your superior. I only acknowledge their superiority in knowing the hindu scriptures better than me.

You need to re-examine your own demons......

And ur reply is not even 1pc, related to my answer or post.

To answer to your points ...

1. I am not aware of any Hindu brainwashing program.

2. There are enough treatise on hindu laws and belief.

3. You need to consult with a dharmic guru of your choice to help you determine what to beliefs and what to follow.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

My answer is unlikely to please you .......but the problem is scholar of Hindu scriptures and people who study it in great detail and debate it are called Brahmins and they are the one who can answer your question. I have no doubt that like most 'secular' Indians you have been socially programmed to 'hate' brahmins and it is unlikely that you would ever consider going to them to understand Hinduism ......so the only solution you have is to study all the hindu scriptures yourselves.

You might seek a 'Guru' but again truly 'secular' Hindus do not do that .....do they ?

BS and nonsense. WHat is being discussed is not the fantasy ideal that people like to wax about, it's about the reality on ground. Reality is that a few castes used, regious position, money and caste position to dominate. Basic human values need to be read from scripture. There you can disregard scripture altogether.

 

[Nair saab]

Sooner or Later Hindutva will be Last Resort for every Secular Hindus... Hope they don't realize it too late...

 

[RangerPK]

Sooner or Later Hindutva will be Last Resort for every Secular Hindus... Hope they don't realize it too late...

Or people of India can choose to become Muslims.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

what????
you want people like nirmal baba,asaram daku and shri shri ravishankar to sit together????

Then Do u want me and U to sit together and discuss?
Our religion have enough scholars. I wanted them to sit and discuss and finalise a version. Our religion is being exploited by foreigners to canvass locals by saying, Hinduism aint organised.
So that problem has to be removed.

Or people of India can choose to become Muslims.

Sorry. We will better be what we are.

 

[Spring Onion]

Indian tradition seeks a Guru to explain better what you already may or may not believe. Dr. Swamy is talking about a book by Rajiv Malhotra in this speech. Let me present to you the same Rajiv Malhotra so that 'secular' Hindus can make up their own mind....

Its the same Rajiv Malohtra who thinks Crusaders are out to break Hindutva?

i have been regularly receiving his write ups and speeches

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

This is what you said "Kshatriyas had their own laws, Brahmans had their laws, Ancient Doctors had their own laws.".....I was merely trying to correct your ignorance. I did warn you that my answer will not please you.



au contraire it is you who is implying that knowing Hindu scriptures make them your superior. I only acknowledge their superiority in knowing the hindu scriptures better than me.

You need to re-examine your own demons......



To answer to your points ...

1. I am not aware of any Hindu brainwashing program.

2. There are enough treatise on hindu laws and belief.

3. You need to consult with a dharmic guru of your choice to help you determine what to beliefs and what to follow.

Ya right. I simply never pointed out Brahmis alone. I pointed kshatriyas, doctors, businessmens etc.

au contraire it is you who is implying that knowing Hindu scriptures make them your superior. I only acknowledge their superiority in knowing the hindu scriptures better than me.

U are giving the same meaning as before.

Hindu brainwashing programmes, I meant some people who just say, Hindutva laws should be implemented. Its fine. But where it is defined. If its defined, then no problem at all. We can discuss.

I have faiths in Gods teachings. I will consult a guru when i want. FOr now, i will follow the teachings of the Lord.

 

[RangerPK]

Sorry. We will better be what we are.

There is a large population of Muslims in India, it seems Indians have already made a decision to become Muslims. I hope more decide to become Muslims too. Inshallah. it would be better for them in after life.