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you can attack but before solve your problem with arab states.your country and your proxies,they are out of control.we will not give you sweets when you attack.

SOlve problem with arab states first? Are you saying that to admit that Pakistan is hosting GCC proxies against Iran?
Iranian proxies have never been out of control. But GCC proxies? damn, they run so wild, even US has to come in and tame them. THe world is afraid of them.
 
Jokes on your buddy. Iran will use commandos, nothing fancy. In reality your military is becoming like Egypt's- well armed(even nuclear) but you're not going to use it on anybody anytime soon.
haha our millitary sucesfully dealt with terrorist scums financied by god knows how many world intellegnence agencies.
so much so that Pakistan army is training yanks on counter insurgency operations.

Also Iran hasnt had the balls to fight anyone since Sadam rag tag milliats gave iran a bloody nose in Iran Iraq war.

why dont you big bad brave iranians try it for once, lol if you wish for tehran to be living back in the stoneages (which it already is) then try it buddy.
 
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SOlve problem with arab states first? Are you saying that to admit that Pakistan is hosting GCC proxies against Iran?
Iranian proxies have never been out of control. But GCC proxies? damn, they run so wild, even US has to come in and tame them. THe world is afraid of them.

pakistan have anti arab elements as well.you both needs to understand that fighting isn't the solution.two big countries are fighting a proxy and it is destroying others.i am not going to ask about iran involvement in lebanon,syria,iraq,i mean the list goes on.you must stop or they must stop.you can't blame pakistan for adl group or whatever.problem is the proxies.arabs and iran should find a solution.
 
When u guys export Indian agents to Pak like Kulbhushan Jadhav(who was involved in subversive activities in Balochistan)...u lose the right to point fingers at Pak.
Honestly you guys must sit and solve your problem
You knew there is only two border you can sea from the space and believe me these photos are taken with normal canon camera from ISS
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And this the other one because of completely different reasons
800wm
 
Honestly you guys must sit and solve your problem
You knew there is only two border you can sea from the space and believe me these photos are taken with normal canon camera from ISS
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And this the other one because of completely different reasons
800wm
Well that's easier said than done to "just sit down and solve the problem". If it was that easy no one in the world would have a conflict. I appreciate the good intentions and obviously who doesn't want peace. However sometimes both sides are unwilling to budge, both sides are untrustworthy of each other, both sides hold grievances against each other...these reasons make any "sitting down and solving problems" almost impossible. If it was true then not only Pak but Iran too could've solved its problems with Arab nations, with Israel, with US, etc.

Still though Pak has tried to hold talks. In fact the territorial issues of Kashmir were peacefully solved with China a long time ago and the two nations enjoy close relation. India however isn't willing to compromise nor hold talks. They want the whole of Kashmir, which is unacceptable to Pak.
 
You've addressed none of the points I've made, so it makes this conversation futile. Take care brother.

You being a Persian from western part of Iran have no idea what goes on in eastern Iran or western Pakistan in terms of drug smugglers, gangs, and mercenaries. They don't live your rich Tehrani lifestyle bro. There was a film in Pakistan made about a Baluch feudal drug lord a few years ago and how he used to take advantage of the poor and get them addicted to drugs to gain their loyalty.



You guys have nice cities and deal with mullahs, corruption, and having to pay extra taxes. I've yet to meet any Irani on this site that tells me that he is from village and what hardships he/she had to go through. You guys have no idea about your eastern frontier or even the situations in the rural parts of your country.
Well I'm from west of iran but I've been conscripted for two years in police force and guess where I was stationed at Saravan just some mere kilometer away from Pakistan border .
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And I say there is two problem in the area .
First poverty and then the tribal mindset .their tribal leaders are like leeches that suck the blood out of the vein of the poor people.
 
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Well I'm from west of iran but I've been conscripted for two years police force and guess where I was stationed ,at caravan just some mere kilometer away from Pakistan border .
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And I say there is two problem in the area .
First poverty and then the tribal mindset .their tribal leaders are like leeches that suck the blood out of the vein of the poor people.

Interesting. What city or village are you from?
 
haha our millitary sucesfully dealt with terrorist scums
US drones already "softened up" TPP and other enemies b4 your troops went in for the mop up. You guys lost alot of people to the terrorists too, so they were either very strong, or ur army wasnt that good or both.
financied by god knows how many world intellegnence agencies.
Maaaybe India funded some of them, otherwise, you're spewing conspiracy theories. Accept responsibility for the volume of terrorists in your country.

so much so that Pakistan army is training yanks on counter insurgency operations.
You only got "good" from actual painful experiences. Dont say that to imply your military is better than US army in anything.

Also Iran hasnt had the balls to fight anyone since Sadam rag tag milliats gave iran a bloody nose in Iran Iraq war.
Iran does. Iran is just smart enough to pick its battles: 1)well and 2) effectively via indirectness. End result is all that matters. Iran is wearing down her enemies slowly. why u think they react so much? When your enemies react aggresively you know ur hurting them. Your army on the other hand has its hands full only from manning your INdian and Afghan border, not even from active war. smh.

why dont you big bad brave iranians try it for once, lol if you wish for tehran to be living back in the stoneages (which it already is) then try it buddy.
"Try it"for what? because of your suggestion?
 
Concern over Saudis stirring up strife on the Pak-Iran border
While Pakistan is upbeat about huge Saudi investment in Gwadar port, some political observers fear it could be followed by a rise in sectarian strife with its neighbor Iran
By F.M. SHAKIL PAKISTAN, JANUARY 24, 2019 5:59 PM (UTC+8)
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Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan talks to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. Photo: Twitter
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman will arrive in Islamabad in several weeks to sign a huge Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Pakistani officials.

The US$10 billion MoU is for the Gwadar oil refinery – a petrochemical complex not far from the border with Iran. It holds major geostrategic importance given the turbulence in the Middle East.

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Pakistan Minister of State and chairman of the national Board of Investment (BoI) Haroon Sharif confirmed that a 15-member Saudi delegation had already visited Gwadar as part of the investment process for the Aramco oil refinery. He also revealed that arrangements for an MoU for construction of the oil refinery had been finalized, saying a formal agreement would be signed during the Crown Prince’s visit next month.

Pakistani officials are upbeat about the Saudi investment, which they say will boost foreign direct investment in the country, but some political observers think differently.

Saudi-Iran tension
They view the latest development in the context of Saudi-Iran rivalry and fear that Riyadh’s economic focus on Gwadar will escalate tensions in the region, where anti-Shi’ite extremist forces have been fighting a pitched battle with Iranian border security forces.

The Saudi venture, they say, could inflame the troubled Balochistan province and reinforce anti-Saudi sentiment in Iran’s Sistan and Khuzestan regions.

Rahimullah Yousafzai, a senior Pakistani journalist and political and security analyst, told Asia Times: “It’s a very sensitive issue and Pakistan needs to carry out its homework diligently to avoid slipping into an ongoing conflict between the Kingdom and neighboring Iran.” He also said that Pakistan and the Kingdom should both declare, in unequivocal terms, that the investment in Balochistan has no political intent.

Pakistan officials are apprehensive because of the Chabahar port – several hundred kilometers west of Gwadar, which was formally commissioned in Iran recently, despite little being said publicly about the “rival” port.

Rival port backed by India
“India, which is a major investor in Chabahar, will use the port to bypass Islamabad in forging economic and political ties with Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asian nations,” Yousafzai said, adding that despite India’s growing interest in the region, Pakistan preferred not to discuss India’s involvement with Tehran in Chabahar.

“As far as Saudi involvement in Gwadar port is concerned, Iran was never involved in a regular war with the Kingdom, hence their level of sensitivity will be far less than with Pakistan, which has fought three wars with India,” Yousafzai said.

In late 2017, a Saudi-backed think tank, the International Institute for Iranian Studies, added an additional layer of complexity to the issue. IIIS scholars argued that Chabahar posed a “direct threat to the Arab Gulf states” that called for “immediate counter-measures.”

In October last year, the Kingdom rewarded Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan for attending a foreign investors’ summit in Riyadh, promising billions to help Islamabad overcome its financial crisis.

The conference was avoided by bosses of many western financial institutions, tech entrepreneurs and media magnates, plus government leaders due to the scandal raging at that time over the brutal slaying of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.

Khan returned from the summit with a $3 billion deposit in Pakistan’s central bank as a balance of payments support and a deal allowing deferred payment for $3 billion worth of oil imports.

Sectarian tension stirred up?
Reports carried by national and international media have said that ultra-conservative anti-Shi’ite and anti-Iranian seminars have been held by Sunni Muslims in Balochistan and that they receive Saudi funding through official channels or via Saudi nationals of Baloch descent. They have also suggested that this may be to destabilize the Islamic republic by inspiring unrest among its ethnic minorities, including the Baloch.

There is a growing concern within official circles in Pakistan that Iran could support Baloch nationalists to raise the stakes for Islamabad – in response to an alleged Saudi-US ploy to destabilize Iran.

Pakistan is also worried that its diminished regional standing – in dire economic plight and minus US support – could encourage India to steer around the $45-billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the flagship project of the Chinese’s Belt and Road Initiative.

‘Extremists already in Balochistan’
Afrasiab Khattak, a political analyst, columnist, and a left-wing politician, said: “Pro-Saudi religious extremists have already penetrated Balochistan. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) is operative in the Brahui belt of Quetta, Kalat, Mastung and Khuzdar and the Balochi-speaking belt in Makran division in the vicinity of the Pak-Iran border.”

He said pro-Saudi terrorists recently abducted 14 Iranian border security personnel and their fate is still unknown.

“Economic cooperation between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia is fine as long as it does not undermine the interest of our neighbors, because we cannot choose our neighbors and we have to live with them,” Khattak said, adding that unfortunately regional rivals always play to the gallery.

“Chabahar and Gwadar are not a zero-sum game. Given the huge population of Western China, four Central Asian States and Afghanistan, these two ports alone, cannot handle the growing business potential of this region. We need more ports and cargo terminals to meet the mounting demands from a huge consumer market,” he added.

Khattak believed it was not rational to construe Chabahar port as a threat to the interest of Gulf states, as some Saudi newspapers have tried to claim. Chabahar port aimed to capture trade from Afghan and Central Asian markets and had absolutely nothing to do with the Gulf or Saudi economy, he argued.

http://www.atimes.com/article/concern-over-saudis-stirring-up-strife-on-the-pak-iran-border/
 
stop making up false arguments on Pakistan duplicity on your borders

What gulf states and Arab think of you is none of our business

We stay neutral not of fear of you or them Arabs. We smart enough to stay away from your stupid backward rivalries.

We have good relationships with gulf Arabs on trade so what. You have relationship with India on trade so what.

Balochistan is in a mess both sides yours and ours. We caught a Indian with your Iranian passport in Balochistan? Care for an explaintion there

People running around with guns on both sides of the borders. You take hits we take hits . Get use to it nothing to do with Pakistan there.
 

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