First western journalist given full access to ISIS warns it's 'much more dangerous than we think'

[Serpentine]

Saddam was a secular gov.t, so too was Gaddafi. Libya was one of the wealthiest African countries under Gaddafi and Iraq also had some of its best years under Saddam. You really can't compare them to Islamist extremist movements.

With his stupid wars, Saddam led Iraq to bankruptcy, just because there were no IS around, doesn't mean it was all rosy under Saddam. Yes Iraq was stable and with a relatively fast development, only until September 22nd 1980, when he attacked Iran. That was the day when Iraq started going towards the doom, and all thanks to uncle Sam when they attacked Iraq and created a void space for terrorist groups like IS to grow.

PS: IS still dreams of killing the same amount of Iraqis that Saddam killed with his stupid wars. He killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis with his actions.

 

[marbella]

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@Zarvan
A post related to isis!
the other day you uploaded your profile picture with isis flag!
whats going on brother?

 

[Steve781]

The "US created ISIS" conspiracy theorists on here are pathetic. ISIS didn't start during the war in Syria, it was part of Al Qaeda in Iraq for many years before. Assad himself actually emptied many of his prisons and sent them to fight the US in Iraq in order to get rid of them.

We also have to understand how ISIS was created. It was created in the prisons of the US. They tortured these guys for more than 10 years since 2003. Then they released them. I mean if you were tortured for a decade, you would also want to shoot somebody. It seems that the US created these maniacs for a reason. Same way the US pushed Turkey to turn their back on Assad, and once Turkey started supporting US' plan, they backed off and left Turkey vulnerable.
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Poor innocent Turkey lol
‘Common enemy’: Former ISIS member calls Turkey an ‘ally’ in fight against Kurds — RT News

 

[atatwolf]

The "US created ISIS" conspiracy theorists on here are pathetic. ISIS didn't start during the war in Syria, it was part of Al Qaeda in Iraq for many years before. Assad himself actually emptied many of his prisons and sent them to fight the US in Iraq in order to get rid of them.


Poor innocent Turkey lol
‘Common enemy’: Former ISIS member calls Turkey an ‘ally’ in fight against Kurds — RT News

Doesn't change the fact the US created ISIS by destabilizing the region, supporting Arab spring, arming maniacs with American weapons. You can brush it off as conspiracy theories but it is not a secret those maniacs are running around with American weapons. People are dying while American and British weapon industr is making bank.

 

[Steve781]

Doesn't change the fact the US created ISIS by destabilizing the region, supporting Arab spring, arming maniacs with American weapons. You can brush it off as conspiracy theories but it is not a secret those maniacs are running around with American weapons.

The US dropped a fraction of the arms Turkey did, and was actually careful about who they gave them to. Qatar was the main influence behind the Arab Spring.

People are dying while American and British weapon industr is making bank.

There are no British weapons anywhere in Syria, not even with the FSA.

 

[marbella]

what is the origin of those isis daggers?

 

[atatwolf]

The US dropped a fraction of the arms Turkey did, and was actually careful about who they gave them to. Qatar was the main influence behind the Arab Spring.


There are no British weapons anywhere in Syria, not even with the FSA.

ISIS could never come to power if the US and its allies listened to Turkey and refrained from invading Iraq in 2003. Even that bastard royal prince of yours participated in these neo crusader wars that totally destroyed the region. Israel is also an anomaly which the British are greatly responsible for. No need to deny these facts.

 

[Steve781]

ISIS could never come to power if the US and its allies listened to Turkey and refrained from invading Iraq in 2003. Even that bastard royal prince of yours participated in these neo crusader wars that totally destroyed the region. Israel is also an anomaly which the British are greatly responsible for. No need to deny these facts.

Prince Harry was in Afghanistan lol nothing to do with ISIS. But yes the Iraq War was awful, although Turkey never spoke out against it, just refused to participate. It had nothing to do with a "crusade" however as the poor Christians have mostly been driven out and not just by Sunni Islamists but by Shias and Kurds as well who view them as Saddam supporters.

 

[Butchcassidy]

Defected Iraqi army and imprisoned Iraqi army men can train ISIS militants how to maintain captured M4s, ISIS has almost as many M4s as AK47s now, that is from captured Iraqi military. Conspiracy theories are just that, theories that require proof, but it is not even a theory, a theory is something that can actually work, it should be called a conspiracy thesis.

Conspiracy theories i tell u. Why would ppl need americans to train them how to use M4, you can see it on youtube!!

 

[Lux de Veritas]

With his stupid wars, Saddam led Iraq to bankruptcy, just because there were no IS around, doesn't mean it was all rosy under Saddam. Yes Iraq was stable and with a relatively fast development, only until September 22nd 1980, when he attacked Iran. That was the day when Iraq started going towards the doom, and all thanks to uncle Sam when they attacked Iraq and created a void space for terrorist groups like IS to grow.

PS: IS still dreams of killing the same amount of Iraqis that Saddam killed with his stupid wars. He killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis with his actions.

Most Sunni Muslim countries got into severe sectarian trouble unless oil gushes within their backyard, allowing them to buy off troubles.

Iraq under Saddam is bad, maybe 1000-2000 died a year in sectarian trouble. But without Saddam 10,000-30,000 died in sectarian conflict.

Sunni deserve to be ruled by tyrant or corrupt rulers simply because this is the best system and because Sunni are not able to stop harming others. Only a gangsterism leaders can stop them.

The mind of Sunni is always to hate their non-Sunni neighbors, and few days back, I posted a thread on Pakistan blasphemy law and its application as a state sponsored pogroms. To my surprise, there are PDF Sunni who come out and support it despite the obvious that minorities are killed and arsoned for no reason.

 

[Desert Fox]

Secular and oil wealth isn't the issue here - China is pretty wealthy too but is their govt legitimate? It's a single party and no chinese has a say in anything? Same goes for saddam gaddafi Kim Jong clan idi amin castro etc etc.


As for the Co relation with islam - I was answering a poster claiming the US taking down legitamate govts in the muslim world - they took down gaddafi saddam and taliban - which of them was legitimate?

Well, that is up to the people to decide if their gov.t's are legitimate, not a foreign power invading and destroying their country in the name of finding WMD's and bringing "democracy".

 

[1000]

ISIS could never come to power if the US and its allies listened to Turkey and refrained from invading Iraq in 2003. Even that bastard royal prince of yours participated in these neo crusader wars that totally destroyed the region. Israel is also an anomaly which the British are greatly responsible for. No need to deny these facts.

They could not have invaded without the help of neighbors, Incirlik was used by the US to drop paratroopers in the north

 

[acid rain]

Well, that is up to the people to decide if their gov.t's are legitimate, not a foreign power invading and destroying their country in the name of finding WMD's and bringing "democracy".

Of course, you are right about the global policing part, but then my point is these guys were hardly legit nor the peoples favourite choice.

 

[manlion]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/16/world/middleeast/how-isis-works.html?_r=0

How ISIS Works

The jihadist group has oil revenues, arms and organization, controls vast stretches of Syria and Iraq

 

[Developereo]

@mike2000
You need to ease up on the happy emoticons. I understand you are overjoyed at the thought of Muslims killing Muslims, but you don't have to gloat so openly.