U are right ,,,we could have designed the ships better without increasing the costs i reckon.
But again we have taken a big leap after delhi class destroyers and china has only in the past 5 years really picked up when it had the real moolah.
So its all good.
But my concern was primarily electronics,,not only in the sense of defence but overall too.
If u can make a good consumer product,,,u will tend to do well in military too as technologies just have to be adapted.
We are a failure there as we have no technology base in india.
And ur example of japan and korea is wrong as
The only reason they don't invest in making the said radars etc is due to high cost,,otherwise they have all the knowhow in the world to make one.Also they are aligned with usa so they have their work cut out for them,as in they can import the sensitive stuff that we will never get.
In short
1)We can and should design the ships better to bring out the best in the platform
2)We need a thriving electronics industry at consumer level.......only then will be self sufficient in true sense.
And just like china we have to be self sufficient ourselves as we are non aligned with anyone
Everything needs patience. You have to beg, borrow , steal. BTW I hope you know Chinese APAR based on Ukranian Tech and American back end processors.
China's North American spy mission pays off
By Judi McLeod
Wednesday, August 24, 2005
Toronto--The first spy mission payoff for the People's Republic of China was boldly displayed earlier this summer when China put its new missile destroyers out on public view.
China’s military disclosed that its two new warships are equipped with Aegis-style battle management systems–admittedly stolen from the United States.
Undergoing sea trials since July, the two Luyang II missile destroyers are Beijing’s first Aegis-type ships. Now that they have the American technology in hand, there will be more to come.
"U.S. intelligence officials say China stole the technology for the Aegis battle management system by setting up a front company in the United States that became a subcontractor for the Aegis system manufacturer." (East-Asia-Intel.com).
The Chinese also showed two other new guided missile destroyers, known as Luyang I.
Both types of destroyers are equipped with Russian military equipment and weapons, including missiles, as well as indigenous Chinese anti-ship missiles.
The four warships are part of China’s military buildup that U.S. officials say is designed for more than just a Taiwan conflict. The Chinese are building a deep-water navy able to project power--especially against the United States.
The Chinese military’s display of destroyers with stolen technology follows directly on the heels of the war games China has embarked upon with Russia.
China’s entrée into war games predates 9/11 by only one month. On August 11, 2001, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) entered maneuvers, considered the largest military exercises ever held in a 52-year history. The announced aim of this strategy was to "simulate" an invasion of the Taiwan-controlled Penghu Islands (Pescadores), halfway between the Fujian coast and Taiwan as the first stage of a major operation against Taiwan.
"These war games involved at least 100,000 elite PLA troops from units in Zhejiang, Fujian and Guangdong provinces; hundreds of fighters; dozens of naval vessels and a good number of air defense and 2nd artillery (Strategic Missile Troops) units." (NewsMax.com, August 2001).
Western military experts have long comforted themselves by pointing out the weakness and aging warships of the PLA Navy (PLAN).
Their comfort level took a nosedive on July 19, 2005.
Meantime media reports raising the alarm about the potential for danger because of the increasing number of Chinese spies operating as fronts in North American businesses seem to have failed.
