First operation success to Trophy/Windbreaker APS

[mnd]

It was introduced in 1983 on little number of old T-55 tanks and scrapped few years later.

Developed and tested in late 70s and entered production threafter. T-55 were not old, they were t-55A modernised, wich were very capable. Drozd was later removed from service, yes, but replaced by Arena in T-55 in the 80s

No evidence for it.

Just google it. Not sure if it was Drozd or Arena.

Trophy is designed against all types of HEAT rounds from all directions. Drozd protected only the frontal arc.

Drozd was made in the 70s, and upgraded to 360 coverage.

T-55 with Drozd were scrapped.

Drozd was old as hell, T-55 were replaced with Arena.

Trophy is designed especially against tandem warheads. Simle RPGs are not a threat to Merkava

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This specific APS cannot give protection against tandem warheads, we've been on this, it's phisically impossible, unless you go with a big shotgun blast wich causes collateral damages. Throphy was designed according to israeli doctrine, fight against limited insurgents who ambush with RPGs, and that's it.

 

[500]

Developed and tested in late 70s and entered production threafter.

You claimed its operational since 70-es. In fact it became operational in 1983.

T-55 were not old, they were t-55A modernised, wich were very capable.

By 1983 USSR had many many thousands of T-64, T-72, T-62. T-55 was outdated junk.

Drozd was later removed from service, yes, but replaced by Arena in T-55 in the 80s

Arena never was operational. So Drozd was just scrapped without any replecament.

Just google it. Not sure if it was Drozd or Arena.

There is some claim that Drozd was in Afghanistan, but no any details, no pics, nothing.

Drozd was made in the 70s, and upgraded to 360 coverage.

The main purpose of APS is to protect weak sides and rear. Front is pretty strong anyway.

Drozd was old as hell, T-55 were replaced with Arena.

Drozd was introduced in 1983 and scrapped few years later without any replecament.

This specific APS cannot give protection against tandem warheads, we've been on this, it's phisically impossible, unless you go with a big shotgun blast wich causes collateral damages. Throphy was designed according to israeli doctrine, fight against limited insurgents who ambush with RPGs, and that's it.

It can. Where from you got that nonsense? Main purpose of Trophy is to protect tanks against tandem Kornet and RPG-29, systems used by Hezbollah, Hamas, Syrians. Merkava had not any problems with RPG-7.

@500
Drozd is fully operational & also is available as export equipment. Also multiple Drozd installations as I posted on previously gives you 360 degree protection
DROZD (Thrush) Active Protection System
Also check out Arena APS unit also operational & available for export

As I said above, Drozd with frontal protection was deployed on little number of outdated tanks in 1983 and scrapped few years later. Drozd-2 and Arena never became operational. Today Trophy is only operational active protection system in the world.

 

[Archdemon]

Late 70s until 80s: Drozd on t-55, t-80, bmp-3. Upgraded for 360 coverage, deployed in Afghanistan. 80s-now: Arena system: replaced Drozd, in t-55 and t-80. Most t-55s and all t-80
Are equipped with APS as of now. You know jack sh#t and I won't waste my time and explain you how it works.

You cannot explain because yourself live in a mirage of knowledge and understanding, combination of ignorance and arrogance. You are the very same idiot who claim that tandem charge designed to counter APS , usually i don't laugh at people with idiocy disease, but you are an exception...
Yes wiki, it is preliminary information gate, if you doubt there are many sources to research from, but the burden of providing proof about tandem capability is on you!

 

[mnd]

T-55 were not scrapped, but kept in storage. USSR had 60000 tanks alone (Russia today has about 20000) Drozd was made in late 70s, and in service for decades. The 360
Cover was equipped in t-55, and early t-80s. There was another version, Drozd-2, and currently a new one in developement, Drozd-M. There's also another APS, Zaslon. Arena APS was made later and deployed in T-80 units, and tested on anothers. Currently deployed there are T-80s with Arena, and some older ones with Drozd. Also some T-55. It was also tested in BMB vehicles.

Archdemon, again, check the russian wiki on rpg-29.

 

[500]

T-55 were not scrapped, but kept in storage.

T-55 with Drozd were scrapped.

Drozd was made in late 70s, and in service for decades.

Drozd entered service in 1983 and kicked out of service few years later.

The 360 Cover was equipped in t-55, and early t-80s.

Not a single entered service.

There was another version, Drozd-2, and currently a new one in developement, Drozd-M. There's also another APS, Zaslon. Arena APS was made later and deployed in T-80 units, and tested on anothers. Currently deployed there are T-80s with Arena, and some older ones with Drozd. Also some T-55. It was also tested in BMB vehicles.

Again, none of it entered service.

 

[mnd]

T-55 were not scrapped, tired to repeat. And Drozd was not phased out, but went out of production. Drozd was in service for decades, deployed in Afghanistan. There are even T-80s with old Drozd in service, Arena was also deployed on T-80s. Even the Ukrainian t-84 is deployed with APS, Arena and Zaslon. Other Drozd versions were tested and cleared for export. Some chinese tanks use Drozd.

In later models, modern ERA and countermeasures (Shtora) made those APS redundant.

 

[mnd]

Arena APS on T-80:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

 

[Archdemon]

T-55 were not scrapped, but kept in storage. USSR had 60000 tanks alone (Russia today has about 20000) Drozd was made in late 70s, and in service for decades. The 360
Cover was equipped in t-55, and early t-80s. There was another version, Drozd-2, and currently a new one in developement, Drozd-M. There's also another APS, Zaslon. Arena APS was made later and deployed in T-80 units, and tested on anothers. Currently deployed there are T-80s with Arena, and some older ones with Drozd. Also some T-55. It was also tested in BMB vehicles.

Archdemon, again, check the russian wiki on rpg-29.

Tandem charge

При попадании в цель первым детонирует лидирующий заряд, обеспечивающий пробитие верхнего (внешнег&#1086 слоя защиты цели (в частности, срабатывание динамической защиты). Основной заряд обеспечивает поражение глубоких слоёв брони и непосредственное уничтожение техники.

 

[mnd]

Tandem charge

При попадании в цель первым детонирует лидирующий заряд, обеспечивающий пробитие верхнего (внешнег&#1086 слоя защиты цели (в частности, срабатывание динамической защиты). Основной заряд обеспечивает поражение глубоких слоёв брони и непосредственное уничтожение техники.

Находясь на дистанции выстрела до танка противника боец с гранатомётом прицеливается и нажимает на спуск. При этом происходит срабатываение метательных зарядов обоих снарядов. Меньший по размеру имитатор цели выходит из ствола первым, а после этого с небольшой задержкой— и основная граната ПГ-30.
Приближающийся к танку имитатор цели обнаруживается комплексом активной защиты, классифицируется как атакующая граната и вызывает срабатывание комплекса активной защиты. Противоснаряд комплекса активной защиты направленным полем осколков или взрывной волной уничтожает имитатор цели. Так как все КАЗ разрабатываются на основании требований минимизации сторонних разрушений, дабы не повредить свою технику или пехоту, то область поражения у них относительно мала и не способна поразить идущую следом основную боевую часть.

Амперсанд — Википедия

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Detailed version.
"Trophy" system is activated for the first time during an IDF operation.

Anti-tank missile defense system stops attack on IDF tank

The Trophy missile defense system deployed with IDF armored units stopped an antitank missile fired by gunmen near the Gaza Strip security fence on Tuesday – the first time it was used during an IDF operation, and the first time a system of this type was successfully battle-tested anywhere in the world.

The IDF Spokesman’s Office reported that Trophy (known in Hebrew as “Meyil Ruah,” or “Windbreaker”) managed to identify and disable the incoming missile, saying no damage had been caused to the tank or its crew.


“For the first time during operational activity, the Trophy system alerted and intercepted a missile,” the statement said.

Shortly afterward, IDF troops identified a gunman in the area and opened fire, killing him at the scene.

News of the 401st Armored Brigade’s successful use of the Trophy system was greeted with great fanfare in the IDF, which viewed the incident as “historic,” and emphasized that it had been the first successful application of any system of its type not only in Israel, but in any country’s armed forces.

No group in the Gaza Strip claimed responsibility for the missile attack on the tank.

“Terrorist organizations are constantly operating to target Israeli civilians and IDF soldiers,” the army said. “The IDF holds the Hamas terrorist organization solely responsible for maintaining the calm in the Gaza Strip and for any terrorist activity emanating from it.”

Trophy made its debut in August 2009, when the IDF declared it operational and began the process of outfitting a battalion of tanks with the system. It is an active-protection system that stops incoming projectiles by spraying a small blast of buckshot-like material in their path. It was developed jointly by Rafael and Israel Aerospace Industries.

A system of this type attained great importance following the Second Lebanon War, during which IDF Merkava tanks were repeatedly hit by anti-tank missiles fired by Hezbollah. It is currently being installed on every new Merkava tank being produced.

Rafael announced earlier on Tuesday that the United States had completed a six-week test evaluation of the system.

Anti-tank missile defense system stops attack on IDF tank

 

[nightcrawler]

@500

Drozd-2 and Arena never became operational. Today Trophy is only operational active protection system in the world.

Sir I don't know why you are saying this again & again. I have provided my sources you plz provide urs

 

[nightcrawler]

@Archdemon
You have enough been lectured by Lidsky. You just seems adamant to accept whats right!!

 

[Archdemon]

@Archdemon
You have enough been lectured by Lidsky. You just seems adamant to accept whats right!!

The idiot was "lecturing" me about tandem warhead, after i have provided him with Russian explanation that it designed to counter reactive armor and not a single reference to APS, then the baboon send me link as a counter argument reference to RPG-30 which actually do designed to counter APS not with tandem charge but with "decoy", i already said that to other member this is be the real challenge to Trophy, Rafael says that Trophy can manege simultaneously several threats coming from the same direction, i will take their words over any Russian RPG-30 manufacturer, because Rafael had the all luxury to test the system against all verity of threat and scenarios including RPG-30 principle of work

 

[lionheart1]

next thing is we will install it on our arjun tank

 

[500]

@500


Sir I don't know why you are saying this again & again. I have provided my sources you plz provide urs

Here is your soucre:

The 1030M Drozd APS uses small rockets placed in fixed silos to both sides of the turret to defeat incoming ATGMs. The millimeter radar on the rear of a turret tracks the missile and fires the rocket from a silo that points in that direction. The rocket detonates, producing the stream of fragments that destroys the incoming projectile.

The system was installed on marine units' T-55 tanks (designated T-55AD, D signifying Drozd) in 1983.

This system had substantially less capability than the Arena APS in range of protected angles, number of incoming projectiles, and reliability of interception.

The Drozd-2 system that is being marketed today as an upgrade option for T-80U MBT offers several significant improvements over the original version, the most important being the drastically increased range of protected angles, as well as decreased projectile size and increased number of projectiles. This new system may be not inferior to Arena APS.

DROZD (Thrush) Active Protection System

Drozd-1 was depoyed on small number of T-55 in 1983 as I said. Drozd-2 and Arena are being marketed but never deployed.