First operation success to Trophy/Windbreaker APS

[nightcrawler]

@CardSharp, 500
Thnx for info.
Much is said about the newly introduced this & newly manufactured that but in actual these are just an outgrowth of Soviet ColdEra projects!!
Take for example the new western thermobaric warhead for Hellfire missiles which was so advertised by western media but in actual it dated back to Soviet technology of 1970s.
http://defencedog.blogspot.com/2011/03/aspects-of-thermobaric-weaponry.html
Coming to the point it seems that Drozd has been updated to giv all-around protection:
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[no_name]

What about a RPG fired from above, say you have someone on roof top in an urban area.

Terrorists may also shift more focus to buried IEDs.

 

[nightcrawler]

What about a RPG fired from above, say you have someone on roof top in an urban area.

Terrorists may also shift more focus to buried IEDs.

To counter your line of attack via rooftops Russians have been cooking something I can't recall but I will produce a link...
Latter part the IEDs well no solution exists for now; as far as I know

 

[CardSharp]

What about a RPG fired from above, say you have someone on roof top in an urban area.

Terrorists may also shift more focus to buried IEDs.

forget RPG from above, the most effective anti-tank missiles are top attack (weakest armour)

 

[500]

Two RPG's simultaneously:

Top attack TOW missile:

Both tests done while tank on move.

 

[Archdemon]

@CardSharp, 500
Thnx for info.
Much is said about the newly introduced this & newly manufactured that but in actual these are just an outgrowth of Soviet ColdEra projects!!
Take for example the new western thermobaric warhead for Hellfire missiles which was so advertised by western media but in actual it dated back to Soviet technology of 1970s.
DefenceDog: Aspects Of Thermobaric Weaponry
Coming to the point it seems that Drozd has been updated to giv all-around protection:
ÊÀÇ “ÄÐÎÇÄ”

With 17 static cartridge, no reload mechanism, no protection against threats from above, shotgun interception with high probability to cause collateral damage

Trophy has two cartridge station with reload mechanism, high elevation protection, multiple explosive form penetration(MEFP) interception with low collateral damage probability

 

[mnd]

Drozd protected only the frontal arc, it spreaded a huge amound of shrapnell. Drozd was never really operatioonal, it was set only on small number of outdated T-55 tanks. Seems its performance was not good so after few years these tanks were scrapped and no additional tanks were fet with it.


Trophy can counter two rocjets simultaneously.

Drozd was operational since the 70s and deployed in Afghanistan, were it was succesfully tested against exactly the same threat the trophy is designed for: outdated rpg-7s. T-55 were never scrapped but modernized and most kept for reserve (Russian army has several thousands of operational units currently) and you are comparing a 70s system to a todays thropy. Drozd is old and Russia has systems way more advanced than Thropy.

Thropy does not protect against modern launchers, BTW, because they use tandem warheads. Israely doctrine is not against them anyway.

 

[mnd]

With 17 static cartridge, no reload mechanism, no protection against threats from above, shotgun interception with high probability to cause collateral damage

Trophy has two cartridge station with reload mechanism, high elevation protection, multiple explosive form penetration(MEFP) interception with low collateral damage probability

Boy, you are comparing this to a 70s system.

 

[Archdemon]

Drozd was operational since the 70s and deployed in Afghanistan, were it was succesfully tested against exactly the same threat the trophy is designed for: outdated rpg-7s. T-55 were never scrapped but modernized and most kept for reserve (Russian army has several thousands of operational units currently) and you are comparing a 70s system to a todays thropy. Drozd is old and Russia has systems way more advanced than Thropy.

Thropy does not protect against modern launchers, BTW, because they use tandem warheads. Israely doctrine is not against them anyway.

Boy, System's Features:

Neutralization of all known Anti-Tank-Rockets (ATRs), Anti-Tank-Missiles (ATGMs)
Full performance on AFV in motion
Full performance against short range threats
Full performance in close and urban terrain
Full performance under all weather conditions
Engagement of several threats from each direction, arriving simultaneously

Boy.

 

[mnd]

Not talking to you, and copy and paste jobs (even if tell nothing) seem to impede us to think, but you woudn't do that anyway, cause you don't know the subject. But you can always "feel good" by comparing your latest systems with decades old ones.

 

[Archdemon]

You the one who comment on my post that wasn't referred to you boy, im not the one who began comparing these systems boy

 

[mnd]

Seems someone got offended : ) One thing is comparing, other to be "proud" and shoving everyone how better your system is against another wich is old as hell. Israel strong!!!

Back to topic. The system cannot work against tandem warheads (rpg-29/30/32). The first "lighter" rocket has the signature and trajectory identical to the bigger one, thus fools these systems. Trophy detects the first rocket and fires a blast, destroying the target, but the blast is controlled in order to not cause collateral damages, and the rests do nothing against the second target, wich impacts. This cannot be solved. Drozd, in fact was better against these launchers because his "shotgun" did not care and destroyed everything.

 

[Archdemon]

Tandem-charge designed to penetrate REACTIVE ARMOR, Trophy is APS(Active Protection System) it is not an armor at all, educate yourself in order to prevent from spewing another nonsense

 

[CardSharp]

Tandem-charge designed to penetrate REACTIVE ARMOR, Trophy is APS(Active Protection System) it is not an armor at all, educate yourself in order to prevent from spewing another nonsense

Tandem warheads defeat reactive armour on contact. The trophy system is detonates metres away from the actual tank.

 

[Archdemon]

Indeed, the first charge activating reactive armor and after the area left without reactive protection the main charge detonates and penetrate armor, of course there are missiles/rockets with more than two charges to counter more sophisticated reactive armor layers.