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Oh I agree. But I laugh for a different reason remember the anti China riots. Some members thought that economy was screwed and that no one would invest in, setting the country back another decade or two.

You clearly didn't read my post well enough.

But I wouldn't expect you to understand anything related to economics since your epic fail comparing the yuan to the Zimbabwean dollar.

Vietnam will NEVER get close to China let alone surpass it in manufacturing output.

The world will never ever see another China. The scale of China and government support for manufacturing is impossible to replicate by any other country.

Lesson for Taiwan Firms After Vietnam’s Anti-Chinese Riots: Go Local

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Smoke billowing from a Taiwanese furniture factory in Binh Duong.
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For the Taiwanese companies whose factories were destroyed in therecent riots in Vietnam, advice from analysts all carries the same tune: think globally, act locally.

Earlier this month, Taiwanese manufacturers became collateral damage when an anti-China protest sparked by Beijing’s placement of an oil rig in a part of the South China Sea in which Vietnam also claims ownership resulted in the destruction of scores of foreign-owned plants. Taiwanese manufacturers suffered the heaviest blow. According to the island’s government, more than 200 Taiwanese factorieswere damagedand at least 18 were set on fire.

While the underpinning cause of the riots is still under investigation, one theory is that the rioters may have mistaken Taiwanese factories as Chinese ones. Others suspect that Vietnamese workers at the Taiwanese plants may have been angry with their managers, many of whom are Chinese.


For many analysts, the take-home message for the damaged firms isn’t to beef up security or do more to distinguish themselves from the their Chinese counterparts; rather, they should create an atmosphere of collective responsibility by localizing their management team, said Winston Yu, chairman of accounting and consulting firm KPMG Taiwan.

Since around 2000, a number of Taiwanese companies have moved their operations from China to Vietnam as Chinese wages rise. And while the firms brought job opportunities for Vietnamese workers, many also brought their management staff from China.

The Chinese staff at the Taiwanese factories in Vietnam are far fewer in number but have greater authority and much higher pay compared with the Vietnamese workers.

According to James Wang, country manager of Ernst and Young Taiwan, a Vietnamese supervisor or department manager in a Taiwanese-owned factory makes $500 a month on average, while local, low-level staff earn around $150-$200 a month. A Chinese manager at the same plant who assumes a more senior role, makes $1,300-$1,500, compared with around $2,000 for a Taiwanese manager.

“The riots rattled Taiwanese investors’ confidence in Vietnam, but given the country’s affordability, close proximity to the China market, and a burgeoning domestic demand, pulling out is not an option,” said Mr. Wang.

Because the geopolitical tensions areexpected to lingerand leaving isn’t in the cards, to minimize tension inside the company Taiwanese companies should restructure their operation style, starting with becoming more localized, he said.

The benefits of localization goes beyond cost-saving, it also “creates a sense of stewardship and fosters synergy among the local hires,” said Mr. Yu.

Feng Tay Group, a major Taiwanese shoe maker whose clients include Nike, Bauer and Clarks, said it believes its efforts to localize staff helped its plant in Binh Duong—where two other Taiwanese factories were burned down—to escape rioters’ wrath. Feng Tay’s plant has one Vietnamese general manger, several Vietnamese supervisors, and no Chinese staff.

“Localization has been a top priority for us because we believe it’s a way to boost morale among the local workers,” said Amy Chen, the company’s spokeswoman. “Besides, they are usually quite good at their jobs.
Lesson for Taiwan Firms After Vietnam’s Anti-Chinese Riots: Go Local - China Real Time Report - WSJ

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TPP is coming, so investors have no choice but leaving none TPP nations if they still want to export to USA-CAD etc :)

No choice but to leave TPP nations? :lol:
So you expect them to leave pretty much the whole world to just to invest in a few of tiny markets that make up the TPP?

American companies don't leave a MASSIVE market like China to go to an absolutely insignificant market like Vietnam.

Companies will go to the countries they can get the most sales and by leaving China they give up the 2nd largest market to its rivals which they will then use as a platform to grab global market share from American companies.
 
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No choice but to leave TPP nations? :lol:
So you expect them to leave pretty much the whole world to just to invest in a few of tiny markets that make up the TPP?

American companies don't leave a MASSIVE market like China to go to an absolutely insignificant market like Vietnam.

Companies will go to the countries they can get the most sales and by leaving China they give up the 2nd largest market to its rivals which they will then use as a platform to grab global market share from American companies.
If they (investors) still want to stay in CN , then Okay, their choice, as long as they dont have the need to export goods to USA-CAD-Japan-AU-NZL.

But if they want to access TPP nations' market, then they have to leave CN if they dont want to pay a very high tax . TW wants to export to USA, so they have to leave none TPP nation like CN and beg for VN's help even we just beaten them up so badly in the riots :)
 
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If they (investors) still want to stay in CN , then Okay, their choice, as long as they dont have the need to export goods to USA-CAD-Japan-AU-NZL.

But if they want to access TPP nations' market, then they have to leave CN if they dont want to pay a very high tax . TW wants to export to USA, so they have to leave none TPP nation like CN and beg for VN's help even we just beaten them up so badly in the riots :)

You have a very poor knowledge of economics. Maybe because you are Vietnamese.

China is now the market everyone wants to sell to. Chinese market is the driving force for pretty much all global corporations. By leaving China, they give up the 2nd largest market which gives up market share to all its global rivals including Chinese companies. Chinese companies will use its Chinese market dominance to challenge American companies in other markets. Corporations never give up market share to its rivals.

TPP is nothing compared to NAFTA yet American companies invested big time in China despite having low tariffs. China was thousands of miles away yet they came to China.

The global supply chain goes through China because China has the massive labour force, the favourable tax policies, the support the government gives in terms of rent, electricity prices, low regulations, rule of law, infrastructure and the large consumer market. China is the hub to supply the region and the world because there is no country that can match the advantages China has.

TPP will end up destroying domestic Vietnanese companies as it puts a major barrier to entry. American companies get the right to sue any local company that tries to compete with American companies. TPP is a deal that prevents competition to American companies.

What you will see when the TPP starts is that the promised investment don't come in and local Vietnanese companies will struggle to compete against American companies as the rules favour the big established corporations over local companies.
 
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You have a very poor knowledge of economics. Maybe because you are Vietnamese.

China is now the market everyone wants to sell to. Chinese market is the driving force for pretty much all global corporations. By leaving China, they give up the 2nd largest market which gives up market share to all its global rivals including Chinese companies. Chinese companies will use its Chinese market dominance to challenge American companies in other markets. Corporations never give up market share to its rivals.

TPP is nothing compared to NAFTA yet American companies invested big time in China despite having low tariffs. China was thousands of miles away yet they came to China.

The global supply chain goes through China because China has the massive labour force, the favourable tax policies, the support the government gives in terms of rent, electricity prices, low regulations, rule of law, infrastructure and the large consumer market. China is the hub to supply the region and the world because there is no country that can match the advantages China has.

TPP will end up destroying domestic Vietnanese companies as it puts a major barrier to entry. American companies get the right to sue any local company that tries to compete with American companies. TPP is a deal that prevents competition to American companies.

What you will see when the TPP starts is that the promised investment don't come in and local Vietnanese companies will struggle to compete against American companies as the rules favour the big established corporations over local companies.
Okay okay, in your view, CN is No 1, every one need CN, TPP is Nothing blah blah blah....but in real life, TPP deal completed 98% already, only few disagrreements left and its not hard to solves. The fall of CNY just make every one such as Japan-Australia etc scared , they dont wanna be dragged into a new economic war between US-CN, so countries like Japan-AU will sign TPP deal soon and leave China.

TPP will end up destroying domestic Vietnanese companies or not, you will see how VNese overcome that situation, but first, the money coming from Taiwannese,Japanese investors are helping VN to remain good export report and low inflation rate when CNy down :)
 
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