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Finance Minister says ‘Pakistan’s basic debts are so big that we are near bankruptcy’

It's not about current government which only took office 9 months ago. It's the state of our awam that chose to remain illiterate for the past seventy years.

Awam ko chahiey ke apnay aap ko maaray... Charya awam ko baat karnay ki tak tou tameez hai nahi aur expectations zabardast har government se.. had I been in government and given the same awam with same depleting resources, I would have looted the country in the same manner as previous governments did..

Darakht kaat daalay.. gas bc choolhay main jala di.. dam banaey nahi.. jo nehri nizaam gora de ke gaya tha uss tak ko saaf nahi rakh sakay... Aik doosray ko Punjabi, pushtoon, muhajir, Baloch, Sindhi ban ke kutton ki tarah kata, Jo kasar reh gaee thee woh barelvi, deobandi, Shia, wahabi jhagron ne poori kardi.. nafrat ka aik doosray se yeh haal hai ke aik doosray ke ghar rishta tou Kia, khana pasand nahi kartay.. munh pe achay peeth peechay aik doosray ki shalwaarain utartay Hain... Aur umeed ghazwa e hind ki lagaey baithay Hain chootiyay ki aulaadaon

What do you expect of a country which doesn't want to educate their children
Barely 50% of our population is illiterate while the rest are pade likhe jahil
They want first world facilities and luxury in a third world economy
 
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Pakistanis must know who the real looters are.
Many of them already know, the guys in power and the guys who pretend to be in power for the global audience are precisely responsible for this mess.

If you know what I mean :rolleyes:
After all we are desis, the same mentality of corruption runs on both sides of the border.:lol:

indian General elections are being held too.

respect our internal matter please

thanks
 
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why cant the government use war hysteria to declare bankrupcty? why is this government intent on doing the same old same old while boasting of change.

To use Naya Pakistan for internal political rhetoric. sure. fool the masses as you please but to bring it into foreign affairs. sheer idiocracy.

a glorified accountant cannot make 5 year long financial policies.

you do realize prime minister and his three choices are important in war imposed country.

finance minister. interior minister. foreign minister.

anyhow these are opportunity filled times. we are wasting it on infighting.

why? because uturn ache hote hain apparently
O Bhai try to understand.. this government can't do much without natural resources... War hysteria se kuchh faida nahi hoga... Aur agar iss waqt China ke finance minister ko bhi Pakistani economy ko theek karnay pe lagado tou mulk mazeed do saal aur lega diwalia honay main... Har topi government pe na daal dia karo chamaar lagtay ho
 
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O Bhai try to understand.. this government can't do much without natural resources... War hysteria se kuchh faida nahi hoga... Aur agar iss waqt China ke finance minister ko bhi Pakistani economy ko theek karnay pe lagado tou mulk mazeed do saal aur lega diwalia honay main... Har topi government pe na daal dia karo chamaar lagtay ho

hal hai to batao nahi implement karo.

moun ki firing karke na jang jeetni hai na economic freedom.

nachtay raho
 
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Realistically the economic crisis won’t be over for another decade. It can ease over the next few years only if the right corrective measures are taken.

Pakistan is the Greece of our region. We have been living above our means. PML-N and PPP have absolutely destroyed Pak economy. Add to that the crushing cost of US war on terror and the picture is complete.

What did Pakistan get in return by voting for PML-N and PPP? What did Pakistan get by allying with the US? Everyone can do the math today.

The debt and loans are like a high fever. You can keep taking an aspirin, but the fever won’t disappear immediately. This will be a slow and painful process. That is the price you pay for electing and re-electing crooks.

Where are the distinguished former finance ministers of Pakistan Ishaq Dar and Shaukat Aziz? I heard one is enjoying his vacation in the UK and the other is selling his country in the USA?

The bad news is that after PTI term we might get back to our old ways of electing crooks and thieves. In other words, from recovery back to thievery and corruption.

you forget the elephants in the room
Pakistan's population keeps increasing
peace with Afghanistan and India are essential to economic growth
 
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hal hai to batao nahi implement karo.

moun ki firing karke na jang jeetni hai na economic freedom.

nachtay raho
Koi hal nahi hai... Koi hota tou batadeta...

Jabhi tou keh Raha Hun only natural resources... If found and extracted in a timely manner

I wish Imran wakes up now and calls Dar, please call Dar now it has come down to this.
So we can apply for more loans from imf?

This is how previous governments kept the rupee price stable.. take loans in dollars, throw money in the local market so that importers can buy it easily and pay off the creditors. Spend five years, put some money in their own pockets and abscond when courts call them.

Agar yeh strategy chahiey tou dar ko call karne ki zaroorat nahi, mujhay le lain main kardunga... At least meri UK aur Dubai main property ban jaegi...
 
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So we can apply for more loans from imf?

This is how previous governments kept the rupee price stable.. take loans in dollars, throw money in the local market so that importers can buy it easily and pay off the creditors. Spend five years, put some money in their own pockets and abscond when courts call them.

Agar yeh strategy chahiey tou dar ko call karne ki zaroorat nahi, mujhay le lain main kardunga... At least meri UK aur Dubai main property ban jaegi...

there is one thing called honesty and tell people what it is, there is another thing called stupidity to scare everyone, Did we bring PTI so their finance minister can make press conferences, one week we are not in the bad shape and next week we are f'ed up folks. rupee going down from 120 to 140 over night has already scared investors and they will on sidelines for at a year to see how it settles and then you hear these scare news conferences. It seems like Asad Umer is doing his best so no one think about investing anything yet. his title should be changed to finance informer from finance minister. This guy hasn't even figured it out in 8 months if we are f'ed or stable.
 
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there is one thing called honesty and tell people what it is, there is another thing called stupidity to scare everyone, Did we bring PTI so their finance minister can make press conferences, one week we are not in the bad shape and next week we are f'ed up folks. rupee going down from 120 to 140 over night has already scared investors and they will on sidelines for at a year to see how it settles and then you hear these scare news conferences. It seems like Asad Umer is doing his best so no one think about investing anything yet. his title should be changed to finance informer from finance minister. This guy hasn't even figured it out in 8 months if we are f'ed or stable.
I understand what you are saying about his change in stances, but for the time being, only solution to stabilize rupee value is to take loans on whatever unfavorable terms, and throw the dollars in the open market.

We don't have exports and sadly, there's no short term solution. I met a company official of an electronics manufacturing org in a conference in Dubai and I asked him why his company wasn't considering Pakistan as it's next manufacturing hub.. besides terrorism concerns, he told me that we don't have enough "quality" technical man power available in the country... Rupee value wasn't even mentioned...

From that point, I have realized that we are far far behind in education... Even the industries we have don't produce quality.. take an example of sohraab bicycle... No one in the world wants to buy it due to its poor finishing... to the point that it looks ugly.. our per acre yield is quite low as our farmers don't know the modern techniques to increase the yield... Electronics? We seldom have products that can compete with others in a foreign market in quality.. and we don't make them cheap as well... Loll

That's why I am now advocating for education only... Nothing else... Our people must realize we aren't living in 1950s... We are in 2020s now and the quality is the main factor... And for that we need quality our University and technical education... Until then, exports will not increase and rupee will continue to devalue... Unless a DAR comes back and starts taking loans....
 
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Asad Umar defends govt's economic policy, acknowledges painful impact

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Finance Minister Asad Umar addresses a QnA session. ─ Dawn.com

Finance Minister Asad Umar on Wednesday addressed a live Question and Answer session on the state of the country's economy.

The session, broadcast live across social media accounts of the ruling Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI), saw the finance minister answer the queries of an assortment of journalists.

Umar identified the primary reasons why the economy is in a bad shape but assured that there will be light at the end of the tunnel.

"There are two reasons why were are in this mess. We have a budget deficit, and secondly, our external deficit," he said. "To resolve this you either need to increase exports or decrease imports. Our immediate action was to cut imports, which slows down the economy.

The minister likened the economy to a patient who is going under the knife in the operation theater. "The person is being operated on and it seems that he has been cut open but the fact it that he is being operated on to [rectify fundamental problems]."

When asked how the government would come good on its promise to create two millions jobs a year, Umar said: "They say that if the economy does not grow at a seven per cent rate, two million jobs won't be created. As a rule of thumb that [reasoning] is fine, but it [job creation] also depends on what our priorities are.

"Tourism, SMEs, IT, and housing all are priorities, and all these sectors have the potential of job creation. Some investments create more jobs, some less. There will be growth from year three onward but it would be sustainable and long term.

"In September, I went to the PSX and I was asked the same question that when would growth be seen in the economy. I told them that we'd go through a stabilisation period of two years after six months of extreme turbulence. Then there will be growth. And now that we are out of survival zone, the purse strings will be loosened."

The federal government recently raised the prices for petroleum products by up to 6.45 per cent. When the minister was reminded that during the PML-N government he had suggested that petrol prices should be set at Rs46, he contested the claim

"I had never said that petrol should be Rs46. I had said that tax should be lower than it was," he said. "Tax ratio at the time was 52 per cent, right now it is 30 per cent. Had we kept the same taxes as before than we could have gathered Rs97bn more from Pakistani public. We have actually lowered the tax ratios."

"Ogra (Oil and Gas Regulatory Authority) does petrol price's calculations. On April 1, when the new prices were recommended, the only thing the government did was reduce the recommended price by Rs5," he added.

A day earlier, Umar had announced that the government is planning to introduce another amnesty scheme to provide non-filers of tax returns an opportunity to whiten their undeclared assets at home and abroad. The finance minister today acknowledged that the idea of amnesty schemes is controversial but said it is the need of time due to the prevalent system.

"Tax amnesty is controversial, of that there is no doubt," he said. "You can say that it is facilitation of tax evaders which would be a fair point. In my viewpoint, my previous objections are valid today as well. But after consultations, the majority's view is that it should happen because in Pakistan the system had been such that we want to give people a chance to come into the tax net.

"However, if amnesty scheme does come, public officers and civil servants won't be eligible, even though some journalists have pointed out that they have the most money."

The finance minister again defended the government's decision to not rush into an International Monetary Fund (IMF) programme.

"Is the economy in this state for the first time in Pakistan? We have two world records: one in trolling and the other in entering IMF programmes. I talked to IMF officials and told them that 'I don't want to burden my nation with more loans'. They told me that the situation we have inherited has never been inherited by anyone else.

"When you take a responsibility you also have to take a position. They used to say that IMF programme should be taken immediately so that markets don't run away. After six months, our reserves are in a better shape. I did not rush into an IMF programme just to avoid criticism. Having said that, an agreement will be reached soon."

Prime Minister Imran Khan recently indicated that Pakistan was on the verge of hitting a kind of jackpot in the form of discovering a huge reserve of oil and gas. The finance minister today gave an update on ExxonMobil-led consortium's offshore drilling.

"There is deep offshore drilling being done 250km away from Pakistan. They have to drill 5,000m deep, of which, last I checked, they have so far drilled 3,500m. There was some delay due to rocky formation. When they reach 5,000m we will know what the find is. But we know that it's potential is big. It's a high-risk operation. ExxonMobil invests when potential find is massive. If oil is found, it will be a massive find."

MoIn Febreuary, Umar had said that talks to bring PayPal to Pakistan were [underway][4]. When reminded of those plans today, Umar struck a less definitive tone, asking his team to follow up on those plans. "The IT ministry was given the task. They had to go in January. It hasn't been done so far but we are trying. But AliPay is here," he said.

When asked why the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) has not done enough to raise awareness regarding tax benefits and incentives that come with entering the tax net, Umar asked Minister for Revenue Hammad Azhar to answer the query.

"It's right that FBR's optics are lacking," Azhar said. "There is a lot of work to be done and there is an awareness deficit. We did do a concerted advertisement campaign, following which a 34 per cent increase was witnessed in on-time filing. But we should do a sustained campaign. We actually want to delve deep down and correct FBR's fundamental problems. Once those are done, there will be a visible change and then we will [run more awareness campaigns]."

He is saying what I have said since PTI came in power that it will take 2 to 3 years to stabilize the economy and then we can see some growth. Some economists think that it will take 5 years to revive the economy.
 
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He is saying what I have said since PTI came in power that it will take 2 to 3 years to stabilize the economy and then we can see some growth. Some economists think that it will take 5 years to revive the economy.
There's no way without education... No way man! Please stop giving timelines....
 
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He said he cut the Imports but Government also used to make $$$ from Tax on Imports coming into Pakistan

The only way to make up for it when Local People pay Taxes you can't build your economy on Taxation on Imports




Existing problem :

Imports 40 Billion , Government Taxes this and counts this as taxed revenue
Exports 20 Billion , No Taxes on this


Our Tax office , was more concerned about Taxing Imports instead of collecting tax from local people
 
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Pakistan has 2 big backers of China and Saudi. Bankruptcy is a distant thing.

Geroge Soros make a fatal mistake when he attacked Hong Kong finance in 1997 asian crisis.

He forget Hong Kong has China as backer to shore up its finance and end up he loses billions of dollars himself.

Some spot that appear weak maybe the strongest.

Are you serious mate? China is a cunning investor. For an investor, there is a limit to which it can back (to save it's investment)...once he feels the returns are bleak, it pulls out to cut down further losses.

Saudi's too are getting smart. They know their luxurious life-styles is not sustainable if they solely rely on Oil income...hence they are investing and thus same logic applies to them (as China above).

In this world, a real brother too just cannot keep on blindly supporting/financing his non-performing, lazy brother...even a father do not do that to his useless son...forget about states.

Start performing, show some result and value-add to your friends and gain their trust for further investment.....don't be a sucker.
 
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Pakistan has 2 big backers of China and Saudi. Bankruptcy is a distant thing.

Geroge Soros make a fatal mistake when he attacked Hong Kong finance in 1997 asian crisis.

He forget Hong Kong has China as backer to shore up its finance and end up he loses billions of dollars himself.

Some spot that appear weak maybe the strongest.
Great gesture ,,, we Pakistani should take there responsibility of nation building and tax paying. How long other nation stand behind us... Pakistan has to pay back Saudi and UAE debt with 3 percent rate of interest.Plus they release payment in yearly installment. First secure , then pay.
 
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Are you serious mate? China is a cunning investor. For an investor, there is a limit to which it can back (to save it's investment)...once he feels the returns are bleak, it pulls out to cut down further losses.

Saudi's too are getting smart. They know their luxurious life-styles is not sustainable if they solely rely on Oil income...hence they are investing and thus same logic applies to them (as China above).

In this world, a real brother too just cannot keep on blindly supporting/financing his non-performing, lazy brother...even a father do not do that to his useless son...forget about states.

Start performing, show some result and value-add to your friends and gain their trust for further investment.....don't be a sucker.
Lol. Typical smearing. China has Pakistan as neighbour unlike Saudi or US. Does China want an unstable country beside it? NK no matter how dirt their economy , they still manage to survive. All thanks to generous China donation.

Great gesture ,,, we Pakistani should take there responsibility of nation building and tax paying. How long other nation stand behind us... Pakistan has to pay back Saudi and UAE debt with 3 percent rate of interest.Plus they release payment in yearly installment. First secure , then pay.
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/04/china/cameroon-china-debt-relief-intl/index.html
 
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you forget the elephants in the room
Pakistan's population keeps increasing
peace with Afghanistan and India are essential to economic growth

For Pakistan, the world doesn't revolve around Afghanistan and India. The world is much bigger. Besides, Afghanistan is hardly an economic force that Pakistan could reap benefits from. India is filled with enmity for Pakistan due to historical reasons. Peace is possible, but not in our life time. Perhaps the upcoming generations.

In the meanwhile Pakistan should focus on short and long term goals to improve economy. China is the immediate country that could help Pakistan achieve this goal. Our interests converge.

The long term solution to boosting Pak economy is by enabling the young population to educate themselves. Pakistan needs to stand on its own feet. A knowledge based economy is what Pakistan desperately needs to generate mass jobs. This is where the government should regulate policies and improve the broken education system that only benefits a handful. The current education system needs to be fixed which is long due.
 
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