Female-centric 'Star Wars' series in works

[S.Y.A]

remake the Rambo films and call it 'Rachel first blood' ?

Lol, dont give them ideas.

 

[Zibago]

Wonder woman?

I am a huge kill bill and tomb raider fan so not against women as the main character but when movies only have wahmen power as selling point they tend to be meh at best awful at worst (birds of prey,charlies angels,mib,terminator )

captain marvel

What about it? It did good at the box office because of the Endgame hype on its own its a meh movie

Bad movies go broke, not movies that happen to have female protagonists.

Most new movies that tend to sell wahmen pahwer as their main selling point tend to be really bad

Lol, dont give them ideas.

15 minutes spent on rambo coming out as a gender fluid lesbian to a tribe of disabled pansexuals who identify as automatic rifles?
@waz

 

[S.Y.A]

15 minutes spent on rambo coming out as a gender fluid lesbian to a tribe of disabled pansexuals who identify as automatic rifles?

exactly. and tonnes of cringey, forced moments like the one in endgame (the "she isnt alone" one).

 

[Philosopher]

It appears at this point the likes of Disney simply do not care if they're destroying their movies and TV series', as long as they can perpetuate this SJW agenda. One would not be surprised if they're deliberately destroying anything in cinema that has a mostly male element, from Ghostbusters to potentially James Bond. Could they be foolish enough to not realise these forced drivels they're pushing have the opposite effect to what they hope to achieve?

 

[Zibago]

exactly. and tonnes of cringey, forced moments like the one in endgame (the "she isnt alone" one).

Dont get me started on it everyone knew it was forced

It appears at this point the likes of Disney simply do not care if they're destroying their movies and TV series', as long as they can perpetuate this SJW agenda. One would not be surprised if they're deliberately destroying anything in cinema that has a mostly male element, from Ghostbusters to potentially James Bond. Could they be foolish enough to not realise these forced drivels they're pushing have the opposite effect to what they hope to achieve?

2019 saw a lot of classics dying a painful death

 

[That Guy]

I am a huge kill bill and tomb raider fan so not against women as the main character but when movies only have wahmen power as selling point they tend to be meh at best awful at worst (birds of prey,charlies angels,mib,terminator )

What about it? It did good at the box office because of the Endgame hype on its own its a meh movie


Most new movies that tend to sell wahmen pahwer as their main selling point tend to be really bad.

I feel like the goal post has been moved here.

The original point being made was that female leads don't make profitable movies. Not women empowerment movies, which to me is also untrue, considering the movies I mentioned.

It all comes down to the script.

The problem a lot of these bad movies have is that they're written by men about women. Do they know how a woman thinks and feels better than a woman? Nope. Which is why such movies that have female writers on board tend to do much better.

The thing is the all female lead is closely connected with the storyline. I object on the grounds that you can't take an established genre and then simply change it and present it as something groundbreaking. When fans become attached to characters everything goes with it. I mean would you remake the Rambo films and call it 'Rachel first blood' ? Similarly you wouldn't take Sigourney Weaver's legendary role as female heroine Ripley and reboot it with 'Ryan' as the lead.
The whole thing also is cringe worthy (more storyline related) and audiences don't want to or need to be patronised in accepting things just because the studios say so.

Again the story line was terrible, precisely because it was terribly written. Actors and Actresses can only go off of what they're given, so of course it came off as cringy. The prequel Star Wars series wasn't bad because of the actors, and in fact the actors were the best part about them. Rather, they were bad because Lucas fucked up the script so bad, that the movies became meme worthy.

Also, why not? Gender bending movies isn't anything new, and has worked in the past. I'd totally do a Ryan and Racheal, and no I'm not being contrarian here, because you legitimately just made me think about them, and now I'm totally thinking about how that would play out.

You are misinterpreting my post, and giving out false impression - this is not what my post meant. Identify where did I use the word "Female" in my post? You need to apologise for your error.

Okay, explain it to me. What's "politically correct" about it? I need to know why you used these words, before I issue any sort of apology.

copy of captain america

Not even close. Also have you not heard of the comics?

honestly, not that good

A fair opinion, but I enjoyed it, as it many others. It wasn't a bad film, like many people are suggesting.

most of these movies get views just because they belong to a comic franchise, others, because they pander to a set of audience.

And what's wrong with that? Target markets exist for a reason. You don't make a pro-India movie, and try to sell it to Pakistanis.

^^^this. exactly. thank you for saying this. every character is being changed to a female one, or "others". and of course introducing homosexuality in every single thing.

Other than this, what other movie has done that in recent times.

 

[Zulfiqar]

Ah another wastage. As if they didn't ruin the star wars enough in the new movies.

I have stopped watching these new female centric movies where they replaced the male lead because I just can't relate with them as I did with the previous ones.

 

[Nilgiri]

A mixed cast of youngsters being mentored by the older ghostbusters would have gone down well, oh wait they’re doing that and it’s been received very well.

There was an "Extreme ghostbusters" cartoon series in the late 90s that was essentially this too. Only Egon (iirc) there to mentor the new team.

It wasn't as good as the original cartoon (that I watched before it) that basically were continuation/expansion of the movies in more kid-friendly story arc.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

t (birds of prey,charlies angels,mib,terminator )

Please clarify, which Terminator do you take issue with? Charlie's Angels also was always supposed to be female led, as opposed to an example of forced feminisation.

 

[gangsta_rap]

They have 3 mainline series green lit already
-Mandalorian
-Cassian Andor
-Obi Wan

Literally more star wars than anyone had asked for in terms of a tv series

Don't like it don't watch it
Nobody is forcing you to buy an Ep9 coloring book either

 

[Nilgiri]

Or if you wanna go old school, Ripley from Alien?

Thing is they did that very tastefully and she was definitely nowhere near a "Mary Sue" (given the bruises she took and mistakes she made) like they automatically make all females in many lead roles now...as though being female is an inherent superpower in itself.

Its not that a female cannot be a hero (in fact Ripley is probably the best one on screen so far imo). But they have to be a different kind of hero with reality baked in. A hero fights the odds and its the ethereal strength from within that sets them apart from the non-hero. That manifests often quite differently in reality between genders so a lot of people do subconsciously or overtly expect that on the screen too to some level within context.

It becomes very unrealistic and cringey if they do things like this "Rey" character in star wars...that gets A B and C all unlocked right away in capability....whereas Luke toiled and struggled and got defeated massively the one time even. Things have to be consistent and pragmatic...there should be no shortcuts simply to "empower".

 

[That Guy]

Thing is they did that very tastefully and she was definitely nowhere near a "Mary Sue" (given the bruises she took and mistakes she made) like they automatically make all females in many lead roles now...as though being female is an inherent superpower in itself.

Its not that a female cannot be a hero (in fact Ripley is probably the best one on screen so far imo). But they have to be a different kind of hero with reality baked in. A hero fights the odds and its the ethereal strength from within that sets them apart from the non-hero. That manifests often quite differently in reality between genders so a lot of people do subconsciously or overtly expect that on the screen too to some level within context.

It becomes very unrealistic and cringey if they do things like this "Rey" character in star wars...that gets A B and C all unlocked right away in capability....whereas Luke toiled and struggled and got defeated massively the one time even. Things have to be consistent and pragmatic...there should be no shortcuts simply to "empower".

Which I agree with, and goes back to my main point that bad movies are bad because of bad writing.

 

[Nilgiri]

Which I agree with, and goes back to my main point that bad movies are bad because of bad writing.

Yeah wasn't disagreeing, just fleshing out my perspective on it.

 

[Zibago]

Please clarify, which Terminator do you take issue with? Charlie's Angels also was always supposed to be female led, as opposed to an example of forced feminisation.

I am talking about the past Terminator which was beyond underwhelming as for Charlies angels angels who watched the show and the old movies knows what I am talking about. This new sequel was cringey *** buzzfeed level bs and most people actually watched it just to see how terrible it is

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I am talking about the past Terminator which was beyond underwhelming as for Charlies angels angels who watched the show and the old movies knows what I am talking about. This new sequel was cringey *** buzzfeed level bs and most people actually watched it just to see how terrible it is

Look, in general terms if we're talking female leads, Sarah Connor is right up there with Ripley from Aliens in terms of being tough, credibly portrayed, and gritty female leads without needing to be either hypersexualised or paramasculine. I can't think of better and more genuinely believable female protagonists in action movies.

I won't comment on Charlie's Angels as I didn't see the most recent incarnation. However, Sarah Connor cannot possibly belong to this list being constructed of contrived and blatantly cliched female leads pandering to a "post-me-too" era.