Female-centric 'Star Wars' series in works

[Zibago]

Look, in general terms if we're talking female leads, Sarah Connor is right up there with Ripley from Aliens in terms of being tough, credibly portrayed, and gritty female leads without needing to be either hypersexualised or paramasculine. I can't think of better and more genuinely believable female protagonists in action movies.

I won't comment on Charlie's Angels as I didn't see the most recent incarnation. However, Sarah Connor cannot possibly belong to this list being constructed of contrived and blatantly cliched female leads pandering to a "post-me-too" era.

Did you watch Dark fate? I couldnt think of a worse last movie forsucha big franchise

The problem a lot of these bad movies have is that they're written by men about women. Do they know how a woman thinks and feels better than a woman? Nope. Which is why such movies that have female writers on board tend to do much better

Birds of prey was written by a woman and its main selling point was that it was written by a woman yet it failed bigtime for the old boring trope of men bad women are queens
Even suicide squad was better than that crap

The original point being made was that female leads don't make profitable movies. Not women empowerment movies, which to me is also untrue, considering the movies I mentioned

Hmm perhaps I shouldve worded it better
How about a redo?
Movies that make female empowerment their main selling point
Its fits all these movies minus captain marvel which lived off the hype of endgame

Other than this, what other movie has done that in recent times.

MIB?

 

[That Guy]

Did you watch Dark fate? I couldnt think of a worse last movie forsucha big franchise


Birds of prey was written by a woman and its main selling point was that it was written by a woman yet it failed bigtime for the old boring trope of men bad women are queens
Even suicide squad was better than that crap

I'm sorry, what? Birds of pray was received way better than suicide squad. I don't know what you're talking about here.

Hmm perhaps I shouldve worded it better
How about a redo?
Movies that make female empowerment their main selling point
Its fits all these movies minus captain marvel which lived off the hype of endgame

Captain america has always had it's own unique fan base, similar to wonder woman. So I don't really agree with that argument.

I maintain that bad movies are bad, because of bad writing, not because of their themes.

MIB?

MiB doesn't really count, as it wasn't relying on the fact that one of the main characters was a woman. It was never played up.

 

[Zibago]

I'm sorry, what? Birds of pray was received way better than suicide squad. I don't know what you're talking about here.

Suicide squad raked in 746 million with a user metacritic score of 6
Birds of prey on the other hand got 201 million with a user metacritic score of 5.5 so you know its a global consensus it sucked and to top it all off they blamed young boys for it failing at the box office (just like they blamed men for failure of Charlies Angels)

Captain america has always had it's own unique fan base, similar to wonder woman. So I don't really agree with that argument.

Wonder woman was ok in that department I would say they didnt jump on the cringe train

I maintain that bad movies are bad, because of bad writing, not because of their themes

Oh really? Explain Charlies Angels and Suicide Squad

MiB doesn't really count, as it wasn't relying on the fact that one of the main characters was a woman. It was never played up.

I saw thethem a bit differently as a fan of the movies,cartoons and the games same old perfect mary sue yadi yada
In recent times I would say Alita in Alita Battleangel was a better representation how you show a female hero

 

[zectech]

What happens when you go full social justice warrior retard;

At this juncture, it it presumed that the picture will crawl to around $225m worldwide (around 1.56x the $144m budget), which according to The Hollywood Reporter will be a loss of around $70m. Even if that number turns out to be a bit high (Sony would argue it is a lot less than that), the female-fronted reboot is not the leggy hit that I thought it would be. It breaks my heart to say this, but Ghostbusters is pretty much a bomb.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/08/10/box-office-ghostbusters-is-sadly-a-bomb/

$70 million loss.....

Need SJWs to ruin the CIA/DoD Hollywood scripts to make the new movies into a comedy category that was not foreseen by the CIA/DoD editors.

Turn the Star Wars franchise into a comedy, when no comedy was intended by the writers. Get those female Ghostbuster cast for the new Star Wars movie. And since 30% of Amerikans are obese... We need obese jedi to cater to the under-represented obese Amerikans. SJWs demand diversity and Star Wars should get a cast not based on talent, but quotas to depict real Amerika. And real Amerika is fat, eats at McDonalds and shops at Walmart.

Yes more SJW BS, I hate Star Wars now.

For me the franchise ended with Return of The Jedi, and of course the prequels.

The prequels are unfolding now:

 

[GumNaam]

Female-centric 'Star Wars' series in works: reports

23 APR 2020

A new female-centric "Star Wars" television series is being developed for the Disney+ streaming platform, according to Hollywood trade reports Wednesday.

The show from Leslye Headland, co-creator of Netflix drama "Russian Doll," would be Disney's latest bid to expand the blockbuster sci-fi franchise on the small screen after the runaway success of "The Mandalorian."

Disney did not immediately respond to request for comment.

Deadline Hollywood said the series would be a "female-driven action thriller with martial arts elements and set in an alternate timeline from the usual 'Star Wars' universe."

The Hollywood Reporter said the new show would be live-action.

Disney has prioritized television for "Star Wars" over the next few years.

"The Mandalorian," featuring the viral internet sensation Baby Yoda, was the flagship launch show for Disney's on-demand platform last year, proving a hit with critics and audiences.

A third season is already in development.

In addition, two other new live-action "Star Wars" television series are in the works for Disney+, including the return of Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan Kenobi, and a prequel to movie spin-off "Rogue One."

In February, then-CEO Bob Iger hinted at potential spinoffs for "The Mandalorian," which could include "taking those characters in their own direction in terms of series."

Meanwhile, Disney has slowed down the release of its upcoming "Star Wars" films, with its recently concluded trilogy seeing diminishing box office returns and mixed reviews.

Efforts to introduce more female and minority lead characters into the franchise have also proven divisive among some fans.

The recent film trilogy saw women and characters of color like Rey (Daisy Ridley) and Finn (John Boyega) take center stage -- angering a vocal, toxic minority.

Asian-American actress Kelly Marie Tran, who became the franchise's first leading actress of color in 2017's "The Last Jedi," was hounded off social media by racist and sexist abuse.

Headland received two Emmy nominations last year for "Russian Doll," a dark comedy which sees a New York woman trapped in a "Groundhog Day" style loop in which she keeps dying and reliving her 36th birthday.

https://www.afp.com/en/news/3954/female-centric-star-wars-series-works-reports-doc-1qr63w3

RIP Star Wars! psycho feminist SJWs have ruined it!

 

[That Guy]

Suicide squad raked in 746 million with a user metacritic score of 6
Birds of prey on the other hand got 201 million with a user metacritic score of 5.5 so you know its a global consensus it sucked and to top it all off they blamed young boys for it failing at the box office (just like they blamed men for failure of Charlies Angels)

BoP approval rating:

Critic - 78%

Audience - 78%
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/birds_of_prey_2020

Suicide Squad rating

Critic - 27%

Audience - 59%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/suicide_squad_2016

Critically, It did WAAAAY better than suicide squad. The reason why it didn't make as much money was due to the fact that Suicide Squad ended up being so bad. BoP was a sequel, so people didn't want to touch it.

Wonder woman was ok in that department I would say they didnt jump on the cringe train

Wonder Woman was actually great, it was also well received.

Oh really? Explain Charlies Angels and Suicide Squad

SS had a fantastic premise, ruined by shit writing

Charlie's Angels, I can't comment on. I never watched it.

I saw thethem a bit differently as a fan of the movies,cartoons and the games same old perfect mary sue yadi yada
In recent times I would say Alita in Alita Battleangel was a better representation how you show a female hero

That's fair.

 

[waz]

I
Again the story line was terrible, precisely because it was terribly written. Actors and Actresses can only go off of what they're given, so of course it came off as cringy. The prequel Star Wars series wasn't bad because of the actors, and in fact the actors were the best part about them. Rather, they were bad because Lucas fucked up the script so bad, that the movies became meme worthy.

Also, why not? Gender bending movies isn't anything new, and has worked in the past. I'd totally do a Ryan and Racheal, and no I'm not being contrarian here, because you legitimately just made me think about them, and now I'm totally thinking about how that would play out.

You're spot on with the first paragraph but just no, no, no, no with the second. We don't need gender bending experiments with established films.

Here's a simple saying;

Leave it alone! I'm also sick of all the remakes which are terrible but that's another topic.

 

[StormBreaker]

You're spot on with the first paragraph but just no, no, no, no with the second. We don't need gender bending experiments with established films.

Here's a simple saying;

Leave it alone! I'm also sick of all the remakes which are terrible but that's another topic.

When I was watching endgame, I remember my people at my theatre boo-ing the forced women charge scene.

Like out of no f*cking where, Some random lady drops from sky, And all the other stranger ladies who themselves don’t know each other, Even gamora who just came from past, Join all other stupid ladies to make a cringy scene.

RIP to planning.

Nothing bad about women power, The scene in which captain marvel blows tha sh*t out of thanos ship was one of the best scene but then cringe happened...

Star wars episode 7-9 were quite blunt and kinda insignificant and repeated. The new actors they chose, Failed to deliver the charisma, Given they aren’t famous as well so naturally people didn’t like, And then they had the worst story writers for Ep8 (force awakens was still bit better).

Now they are planning some cringe for Thor Love and Thunder by giving thor powers and mjolnir to Natalie portman, My guess is they would definitely try some cringe sh*t again.

Best example of perfectly portrayed female lead is Black widow. Everything balanced Although the character is strongly protected by plot armor

 

[waz]

When I was watching endgame, I remember my people at my theatre boo-ing the forced women charge scene.

Like out of no f*cking where, Some random lady drops from sky, And all the other stranger ladies who themselves don’t know each other, Even gamora who just came from past, Join all other stupid ladies to make a cringy scene.

RIP to planning.

Nothing bad about women power, The scene in which captain marvel blows tha sh*t out of thanos ship was one of the best scene but then cringe happened...

Star wars episode 7-9 were quite blunt and kinda insignificant and repeated. The new actors they chose, Failed to deliver the charisma, Given they aren’t famous as well so naturally people didn’t like, And then they had the worst story writers for Ep8 (force awakens was still bit better).

Now they are planning some cringe for Thor Love and Thunder by giving thor powers and mjolnir to Natalie portman, My guess is they would definitely try some cringe sh*t again.

Best example of perfectly portrayed female lead is Black widow. Everything balanced Although the character is strongly protected by plot armor

Hahaha you know what bro I never really noticed the women thing in 'End Game', I know they fought as a group and killed many but i just took it as part of the film.
Yes the cringe factor and just plain stupid factor is so prevalent in the so called 'Star Wars' movies now it's horrible. Disney is just whacked anyway.

 

[Zibago]

BoP approval rating:

Critic - 78%

Audience - 78%
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/birds_of_prey_2020

Suicide Squad rating

Critic - 27%

Audience - 59%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/suicide_squad_2016

Critically, It did WAAAAY better than suicide squad. The reason why it didn't make as much money was due to the fact that Suicide Squad ended up being so bad. BoP was a sequel, so people didn't want to touch it.

Difference between rating of metacritic and rotten tomatoes how about we take the money it raked in as the audience score hmm

SS had a fantastic premise, ruined by shit writing

Sorry I meant to write birds of prey :-// I actually liked SS for its crazy *** plot

Charlie's Angels, I can't comment on. I never watched it.

I watched the old one,s and its another moment of watching a loved series die because of feminist sensibilities

You're spot on with the first paragraph but just no, no, no, no with the second. We don't need gender bending experiments with established films.

If you want a star wars story done right do play knights of the old republic 2

Best example of perfectly portrayed female lead is Black widow. Everything balanced Although the character is strongly protected by plot armor

I would say Alita was a better portrayal of a hero with flaws and weaknesses

Hahaha you know what bro I never really noticed the women thing in 'End Game', I know they fought as a group and killed many but i just took it as part of the film.
Yes the cringe factor and just plain stupid factor is so prevalent in the so called 'Star Wars' movies now it's horrible. Disney is just whacked anyway.

It was beyond cringe and now Marvel has literally launched characters called snowflake and safepsace

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Western White Women are only good at beating up Men in Movies Only. Inreality, they get their *** whipped up by Black Chicks

 

[StormBreaker]

Difference between rating of metacritic and rotten tomatoes how about we take the money it raked in as the audience score hmm

Sorry I meant to write birds of prey :-// I actually liked SS for its crazy *** plot

I watched the old one,s and its another moment of watching a loved series die because of feminist sensibilities


If you want a star wars story done right do play knights of the old republic 2


I would say Alita was a better portrayal of a hero with flaws and weaknesses

It was beyond cringe and now Marvel has literally launched characters called snowflake and safepsace

Alita, Yes yes.
Countless examples are there.

Alita was gem of a movie, But From lionsgate studios, Avatar is still better in terms of content and story writing.

However, I am really interested in what Alita 2 brings in.

Disney’s chairman has a bad habit of repeatedly forcing producers and directors to involve the LGBT sh*t.

Kevin feige is least interested to go to extreme extents of these LGBT and all but Bob iger.... Guess what, They are saying that Captain Marvel will be a gay.

Like how can a lady even be gay when lesbian is the term ???

Hahaha you know what bro I never really noticed the women thing in 'End Game', I know they fought as a group and killed many but i just took it as part of the film.
Yes the cringe factor and just plain stupid factor is so prevalent in the so called 'Star Wars' movies now it's horrible. Disney is just whacked anyway.

Except for they didn’t kill “many”.

Hahaha you know what bro I never really noticed the women thing in 'End Game', I know they fought as a group and killed many but i just took it as part of the film.
Yes the cringe factor and just plain stupid factor is so prevalent in the so called 'Star Wars' movies now it's horrible. Disney is just whacked anyway.

Mandalorian really Stood up to the hype and I believe it can do much.

The last episode was directed by Taika watiti, Same director of Thor ragnarok and producer in endgame, Has an amazing history of directing successful comedy+action movies.

 

[That Guy]

You're spot on with the first paragraph but just no, no, no, no with the second. We don't need gender bending experiments with established films.

Here's a simple saying;

Leave it alone! I'm also sick of all the remakes which are terrible but that's another topic.

I guess that part comes down to a matter of opinion.

Difference between rating of metacritic and rotten tomatoes how about we take the money it raked in as the audience score hmm

Or don't. A lot of terrible movies end up making a lot of movie. Are we gonna say that the resident evil movies were good, because they made a lot of money? Of course not.

Or how about Judge Dredd (2012) movie? It was fantastic, but it barely turned a profit.

Sorry I meant to write birds of prey :-// I actually liked SS for its crazy *** plot

BoP had good themes as well, and I actually liked the movie, so I can't really say that BoP was bad, when i clearly don't believe it wasn't.

I watched the old one,s and its another moment of watching a loved series die because of feminist sensibilities

That feels like a cop out blame. Instead of blaming the writers for their shitty writing, you're blaming feminist sensibilities. I don't like that argument, and never have.

RIP Star Wars! psycho feminist SJWs have ruined it!

So, first of all, star wars was ruined way before this. Or are you gonna pretend the prequels never happened?

Second, you realize that the series has always had extremely strong female characters, who are basically feminist icons, right?

 

[GumNaam]

So, first of all, star wars was ruined way before this. Or are you gonna pretend the prequels never happened?

Second, you realize that the series has always had extremely strong female characters, who are basically feminist icons, right?

I stopped watching the prequels after ep1 which for me, just stunk! And this new age sjw feminism isn't about showing strong iconic female characters along side strong iconic male characters, it's about showing strong iconic female characters along side stupid, bumbling, idiotic male characters who "try" to help & support the "strong iconic female characters" but usually mess up on account of being "stupid men" & get in trouble needing to be saved by these strong iconic female characters.

 

[Zibago]

Or don't. A lot of terrible movies end up making a lot of movie. Are we gonna say that the resident evil movies were good, because they made a lot of money? Of course not.

It was playing in theaters with really low numbers I am a bit surprised at the audience score of rotten tomato given metacritic low rating

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/birds-of-prey-and-the-fantabulous-emancipation-of-one-harley-quinn
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/suicide-squad

BoP had good themes as well, and I actually liked the movie, so I can't really say that BoP was bad, when i clearly don't believe it wasn't.

Lets agree to disagree I found it to replay the same boring wahmen is strong men are trash theme I mean it got boring after first few flops

That feels like a cop out blame. Instead of blaming the writers for their shitty writing, you're blaming feminist sensibilities. I don't like that argument, and never have.

A lot of movies with heavy feminist sensibilities just happen to be really bad
I gave you 6 recent examples