Federal Minister Faisal Vawda: People will pay Rs200 for a litre of petrol if needed

[Shane]

I know your likes try to win arguments with your level of competence and intellect, I cannot really climb down that low, especially when my aim is merely to educate my fellow forum members

Ignoring your farcical accusations and for educational purposes for members here, Lets look at an example of one of Dar's high street heists during his days of absolute plunder.

In simple words for your enthralling economic intellect, Instead of taking loan from international lenders at the average going rate of 5%, Ishaq Dar floated bonds at 8% meaning he obtained a loan, in essense, for a much higher rate, but to the benefit of PMLN Bastards, sorry buyers and at the expense of Pakistan...

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

The Pakistan Federal Cabinet is abundant with jokers and clowns. I am sure the Vast majority of PTI patriots did not expect IK to deliver such a team. Running a State is a serious affair i am sure IK can accommodate likes of Faisal vawda,Fawad ch,Zartaj gul,Muraad saeed and others in overseeing party affairs.

 

[Mav3rick]

Ive posted facts in the face of your farce dear, get over it.

I'm not the idiot who compared Pakistan's economy with that of USA and Japan.

I can pull words such as idiot, braindead, retard and many more but it wouldn't win me the argument, it would just mean that I too lost the argument.

Anyway, please request someone to explain my post to you where I have NOT compared economy of Pakistan to that of Japan or US but merely pointed the irrelevance of the GDP to debt ratio, with proven example of Japan and USA.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

TTP killed about 80k Paks... Economic Terrorists such as Isaq$ have destroyed at least two generations in a country of 220 million strong.

 

[Dubious]

Increase the wages too .. 15 K pay with Gas bill of 41 k and 40 K bill of electricity [emoji75][emoji75][emoji75]

Maybe reducing the perks and facilities of the upper positions to help the lower ones should be next...I would like to see that next on the agenda

Read FVG's statements from past ... he is among the few venomous snakes IK have around him

There are many snakes...the faster they come out in the open the faster they can be dealt with! INSHALLAH

 

[thunderr]

Two snakes were taken out recently, FBR chairman and StateBank Governor, both were loyal to Sicilian Mafia.Hope things will improve ..still many baboos in different ministries are loyal dogs of this mafia but am sure Prime Minister will take them to the cleaners.Give him time man.Atleast frickin 5 years

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Two snakes were taken out recently, FBR chairman and StateBank Governor, both were loyal to Sicilian Mafia.Hope things will improve ..still many baboos in different ministries are loyal dogs of this mafia but am sure Prime Minister will take them to the cleaners.Give him time man.Atleast frickin 5 years

The FBR chairman Jahanzaib Khan was appointed by Asad Umar.I think the only option left for IK is to Purge the bureaucrats as the fascists Mussolini and Hitler did,as the current lot has sprung out since 20 years(Musharaf,Zardari,NS).
The irony of Pakistan is that its not the PM who takes the baboos to the cleaners its the wadday sahib who takes everyone to the cleaners including the PMs.

 

[Shane]

I have NOT compared economy of Pakistan to that of Japan or US but merely pointed the irrelevance of the GDP to debt ratio, with proven example of Japan and USA.

The most telling shameful aspect of someone caught telling lies is not in getting caught but insistence on claiming the idiotic lie never happened, lol, not just once but twice, lol.

Besides the economic comparison, another shining example of lying for the benefit of PMLN economic terrorists was the following idiotic remark made by someone :

USD 97 Billion external debt, including USD 48-54 Billion of CPEC (which you again conveniently missed).

As I have explained already in detail, your claim that "97 billion dollars foreign debt of Pakistan includes CPEC loan" reflects your childish and farcical knowledge of Pakistani economy.

In 2013, the foreign debt was 53.4 billion dollars in totality.
PMLN Tenure managed to almost double it and it was hitting 97 billion dollars in 2018.

Read carefully now: Only 6 billion dollars of it was actual loan for CPEC till 2018 according to facts shared by Chinese government.

How did you conjure up the figure of 48-50 billion dollars of CPEC loan and include it in $97billion???...HOW CAN THE PROJECTED ENTIRE CPEC WHICH HAS NOT EVEN MATERIALIZED AS YET BUT A FEW BILLION TO DATE, BECOME PART OF EXISTING LOAN??? LOL, and then you manage to project your mathematical prowess on top of your economic skills by adding it all up but still come up with 97, lol... all just to make some obnoxious claim, Lol.

No wonder you don't want to stoop any lower, lol, you are already bottom of the proverbial barrel, lol.

The equation is simple enough:
Unprecedented local and foreign debt, unprecedented theft, unprecedented circular debt on one hand and unprecedented increase in personal wealth of a few political families on the other.

Ishaq dar, the Sharif Gang and the Zardari Gang are economic terrorists who destroyed Pakistan's economy. Period.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Good trolling of Maryam to Ptians

https://twitter.com/x/status/1116246203413540865

The video shared by the PMLN leader emphasized the major development that had put into the reality in the past ranging from petrol price stability to 10800 mega-watt electricity power plant, motorways, metro bus projects, CPEC plan, stock market stability and many other projects as their achievement. While pointing out the current government’s failure to cope with economic challenges, she also referred the plight of common people facing persistent price hike as a result of poor governance.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Good trolling of Maryam to Ptians

https://twitter.com/x/status/1116246203413540865

The video shared by the PMLN leader emphasized the major development that had put into the reality in the past ranging from petrol price stability to 10800 mega-watt electricity power plant, motorways, metro bus projects, CPEC plan, stock market stability and many other projects as their achievement. While pointing out the current government’s failure to cope with economic challenges, she also referred the plight of common people facing persistent price hike as a result of poor governance.

Seen many good propaganda videos like this. My dilemma is i dont want to hurt my fellow PTI fans and also i dont have enough time otherwise sometimes i do feel like bombarding this forum with a lot of similar videos and clips.

 

[Reddington]

@waz @Dubious @The Eagle
Please close this thread. It has turned into a Noon vs PTI thread.

 

[baqai]

fact of the matter is that PTI despite having such a long time to come up with solutions and tall claims failed to produce results, give them a chance and time is not the answer because as per their own claims they were fully prepared and even gave a deadline to bring Pakistan back to it's feet, that was their election slogan and highlight of each and every speech thats what ticks me off, for me they are worst than PPP and PMLN, why? because unlike those two PTI is sheep in wolf's skin

i am bitter because for me PTI was a ray of hope at one given time

 

[Mav3rick]

The most telling shameful aspect of someone caught telling lies is not in getting caught but insistence on claiming the idiotic lie never happened, lol, not just once but twice, lol.

Yes it is all a big lie, kudos to you on being able to see through it. The GDP to external debt ratio of Japan and USA is a complete sham, how very extraordinary of you to figure it out. And now I am really starting to wonder if I am wasting my time with someone who is 'special'.

Besides the economic comparison, another shining example of lying for the benefit of PMLN economic terrorists was the following idiotic remark made by someone :

As I have explained already in detail, your claim that "97 billion dollars foreign debt of Pakistan includes CPEC loan" reflects your childish and farcical knowledge of Pakistani economy.

In 2013, the foreign debt was 53.4 billion dollars in totality.
PMLN Tenure managed to almost double it and it was hitting 97 billion dollars in 2018.

Read carefully now: Only 6 billion dollars of it was actual loan for CPEC till 2018 according to facts shared by Chinese government.

How did you conjure up the figure of 48-50 billion dollars of CPEC loan and include it in $97billion???...HOW CAN THE PROJECTED ENTIRE CPEC WHICH HAS NOT EVEN MATERIALIZED AS YET BUT A FEW BILLION TO DATE, BECOME PART OF EXISTING LOAN??? LOL, and then you manage to project your mathematical prowess on top of your economic skills by adding it all up but still come up with 97, lol... all just to make some obnoxious claim, Lol.

No wonder you don't want to stoop any lower, lol, you are already bottom of the proverbial barrel, lol.

The equation is simple enough:
Unprecedented local and foreign debt, unprecedented theft, unprecedented circular debt on one hand and unprecedented increase in personal wealth of a few political families on the other.

Ishaq dar, the Sharif Gang and the Zardari Gang are economic terrorists who destroyed Pakistan's economy. Period.

And so more of gibberish thrown around with figures pulled out from where nobody knows. Pakistan's foreign debt is around USD 97-99 Billion; find the breakdown of lenders and how much is owed to each.

The most mind boggling part of your entire 'revelation' is that each and every news is different about CPEC because facts have NEVER been released, perhaps not even to IMF, but you are somehow aware of the exact loan and repayment amount. Unfortunately, you also cannot distinguish between a loan, the repayment amount, maturity of loans etc., and continue to post random loan figures as repayment amount!

This is from June 2018; And all of these are STILL speculation as NOBODY in the public or private domain is aware of the exact loans of CPEC. However, if one can find details of the USD 97 - 99 Billion external debt then the person would be enlightened to the false claims he has been making by quoting random articles which also only speculate based on what somebody has said or perceived. So, please either share the details of the external debt, sorted in descending 'payable to lender' order, or avoid quoting me, as I will avoid quoting your gibberish and nonsense unless you bring up the facts.

 

[Shane]

Yes it is all a big lie, kudos to you on being able to see through it. The GDP to external debt ratio of Japan and USA is a complete sham, how very extraordinary of you to figure it out. And now I am really starting to wonder if I am wasting my time with someone who is 'special'.





And so more of gibberish thrown around with figures pulled out from where nobody knows. Pakistan's foreign debt is around USD 97-99 Billion; find the breakdown of lenders and how much is owed to each.

The most mind boggling part of your entire 'revelation' is that each and every news is different about CPEC because facts have NEVER been released, perhaps not even to IMF, but you are somehow aware of the exact loan and repayment amount. Unfortunately, you also cannot distinguish between a loan, the repayment amount, maturity of loans etc., and continue to post random loan figures as repayment amount!

This is from June 2018; And all of these are STILL speculation as NOBODY in the public or private domain is aware of the exact loans of CPEC. However, if one can find details of the USD 97 - 99 Billion external debt then the person would be enlightened to the false claims he has been making by quoting random articles which also only speculate based on what somebody has said or perceived. So, please either share the details of the external debt, sorted in descending 'payable to lender' order, or avoid quoting me, as I will avoid quoting your gibberish and nonsense unless you bring up the facts.

Already posted all the facts and figures from SBP and Chinese Government. Go figure, lol

 

[Dubious]

Two snakes were taken out recently, FBR chairman and StateBank Governor, both were loyal to Sicilian Mafia.Hope things will improve ..still many baboos in different ministries are loyal dogs of this mafia but am sure Prime Minister will take them to the cleaners.Give him time man.Atleast frickin 5 years

5 yrs will hurt the mafia too much so they need to cry and scream now

fact of the matter is that PTI despite having such a long time

Such a long time? How long are we talking about? As compared to the problem?