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Mansoor Ahmed and his co-writer detail India’s unprecedented failure during the February skirmishes with Pakistan. Threats of using missiles against Pakistan underscored the reality of the IAF as New Delhi wasn’t willing to torment itself with more humiliations. Failure of India’s highly advertised air defense systems hasn’t been adquetly discussed. Link provided at the end.

India and Pakistan's Crisis Means a New Arms Race

What is certain is that the ensuing aerial engagement between the Indian and Pakistani air-forces was a seminal event between two rival air-forces operating in a net-centric environment, backed by Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems (AWACs), ground sensors and electronic warfare. The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was able to carry out its retaliatory strikes at six places across the LoC in Indian Occupied Kashmir on the morning of February 27 by employing stand-off weapons, effectively neutralizing India’s formidable multi-layered Air Defence Ground Environment System and Integrated Air Defence System.

The intercepting IAF formation, comprised of eight aircraft (SU-30 MKI, Mirage 2000 and Mig-21 Bison aircraft) was backed by Phalcon AWACS, against the PAF’s twenty-four aircraft strike formation (comprising JF-17s and ROSE Mirage-III/V aircraft) which were perceived to be inferior to the IAF front-line aircraft. The PAF force was also supported by Erieye and ZDK-03 AWACS.

The IAF was unable to destroy any Pakistani aircraft even though the PAF took on a much larger, better-equipped IAF backed by a seemingly formidable multi-layered air defense network. In the ensuing air-battle, PAF JF-17s shot down a Mig-21 Bison whose debris and pilot fell inside Pakistani territory. That pilot was taken into custody while an SU-30 MKI was also shot down. The Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi was later forced to lament the absence of the French Rafale which he hoped might have produced better results for the IAF, and the IAF Western Command’s Air Officer was consequently removed. This implies that while the IAF continues to operate and add new types of aircraft in its existing inventory, it appears to be struggling to maintain an efficient pilot ratio, severability of aircraft and interoperability of an assortment of French, Israeli, Russian and British assets. As a result, the outcome is impacted along with IAF sortie generation capability during a prolonged conflict.

Conversely, India brought nuclear connotations in crisis after Pakistan’s air-strike, by swiftly operating its naval combat units that included its nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), INS Arihant, along with other destroyers, submarines and frigates. Reportedly, India was also prepared to vertically escalate following the PAF’s matching response, not through the IAF as New Delhi was not willing to risk any further losses. Instead, India considered using ballistic and/or Brahmos cruise missile strikes against key Pakistani military targets. India was only deterred once Pakistan signaled it would swiftly engage in a three-fold disproportionate retaliation against Indian targets.

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/india-pakistans-crisis-means-arms-151400146.html
 
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if it is posted by ppl related to propaganda organization connected to deep state in pakistan then it must be true, what other choice do they have any way ?

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed is a Senior Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies. He is also an Associate with the Managing the Atom Project, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School for 2018-2019 where he was a Post-Doctoral Research Fellow with the International Security Program/Managing the Atom Project for 2016-2018 and a Stanton Nuclear Security Junior Faculty Fellow for 2015-2016.

Previously, he was a Visiting Research Scholar at the Cooperative Monitoring Center, Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, N.M., USA in 2013.

He has also served as a Lecturer in the Department of Defence and Strategic Studies (DSS), Quaid-i-Azam University (QAU), Islamabad from 2011 to 2015, and as Visiting Faculty in the Department of Strategic and Nuclear Studies, National Defence University, Islamabad from 2009-2011.

Before joining the academia, he worked in the Pakistan Audit and Accounts Service from July 2003 to January 2011.

Dr. Ahmed holds a PhD in International Relations from Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad. His research interests include various aspects of Pakistani and Indian nuclear programs and policies; fissile materials, non-proliferation, arms control and strategic stability issues with special reference to South Asia. His research work has been published by the Belfer Center, the Stimson Center, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the US Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.



Ms. Maimuna Ashraf

Maimuna Ashraf is currently working as a Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies (CISS) Islamabad, Pakistan. She focuses on South Asian nuclear issues, primarily India and Pakistan’s nuclear missile capabilities, conventional and nuclear military doctrines, postures and multilateral export control regimes. Ms. Ashraf is a former South Asian Voices (SAV) Visiting Fellow, Stimson Center. Previously, she was associated with an Islamabad based think-tank, Strategic Vision Institute (SVI), as Senior Research Associate. She also worked at Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU), Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) and interned at the Arms Control and Disarmament Affairs Directorate of Pakistan’s Strategic Plans Division.

Ms. Ashraf holds an M.Phil. in International Relations from Quaid-I-Azam University, Islamabad, Pakistan. Her M.Phil. dissertation related to Nuclear Disaster Management. She has been a coordinator and contributor in national conferences/seminars. Her opinions regularly appear in national and international dailies on issues of her interest.
 
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if it is posted by ppl related to propaganda organization connected to deep state in pakistan then it must be true, what other choice do they have any way ?

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed is a Senior Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies. He is also an Associate with the Managing the Atom Project, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School for 2018-2019 where he was a Post-Doctoral Research Fellow with the International Security Program/Managing the Atom Project for 2016-2018 and a Stanton Nuclear Security Junior Faculty Fellow for 2015-2016.

Previously, he was a Visiting Research Scholar at the Cooperative Monitoring Center, Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, N.M., USA in 2013.

He has also served as a Lecturer in the Department of Defence and Strategic Studies (DSS), Quaid-i-Azam University (QAU), Islamabad from 2011 to 2015, and as Visiting Faculty in the Department of Strategic and Nuclear Studies, National Defence University, Islamabad from 2009-2011.

Before joining the academia, he worked in the Pakistan Audit and Accounts Service from July 2003 to January 2011.

Dr. Ahmed holds a PhD in International Relations from Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad. His research interests include various aspects of Pakistani and Indian nuclear programs and policies; fissile materials, non-proliferation, arms control and strategic stability issues with special reference to South Asia. His research work has been published by the Belfer Center, the Stimson Center, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the US Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.



Ms. Maimuna Ashraf

Maimuna Ashraf is currently working as a Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies (CISS) Islamabad, Pakistan. She focuses on South Asian nuclear issues, primarily India and Pakistan’s nuclear missile capabilities, conventional and nuclear military doctrines, postures and multilateral export control regimes. Ms. Ashraf is a former South Asian Voices (SAV) Visiting Fellow, Stimson Center. Previously, she was associated with an Islamabad based think-tank, Strategic Vision Institute (SVI), as Senior Research Associate. She also worked at Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU), Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) and interned at the Arms Control and Disarmament Affairs Directorate of Pakistan’s Strategic Plans Division.

Ms. Ashraf holds an M.Phil. in International Relations from Quaid-I-Azam University, Islamabad, Pakistan. Her M.Phil. dissertation related to Nuclear Disaster Management. She has been a coordinator and contributor in national conferences/seminars. Her opinions regularly appear in national and international dailies on issues of her interest.
The same way everything that comes out of Indian narratives must be coerced as well.
 
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The same way everything that comes out of Indian narratives must be coerced as well.
I never claimed India doesn't do it, just pointed out the source of the article for the fan boys. Every country does the same shit, its up to the readers intelligence to separate wheat from chaff. Of course India does have its own method of controlling/sponsoring news for consumption by masses but coercion , we are not there yet.
 
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if it is posted by ppl related to propaganda organization connected to deep state in pakistan then it must be true, what other choice do they have any way ?

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed is a Senior Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies. He is also an Associate with the Managing the Atom Project, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School for 2018-2019 where he was a Post-Doctoral Research Fellow with the International Security Program/Managing the Atom Project for 2016-2018 and a Stanton Nuclear Security Junior Faculty Fellow for 2015-2016.

Previously, he was a Visiting Research Scholar at the Cooperative Monitoring Center, Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, N.M., USA in 2013.

He has also served as a Lecturer in the Department of Defence and Strategic Studies (DSS), Quaid-i-Azam University (QAU), Islamabad from 2011 to 2015, and as Visiting Faculty in the Department of Strategic and Nuclear Studies, National Defence University, Islamabad from 2009-2011.

Before joining the academia, he worked in the Pakistan Audit and Accounts Service from July 2003 to January 2011.

Dr. Ahmed holds a PhD in International Relations from Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad. His research interests include various aspects of Pakistani and Indian nuclear programs and policies; fissile materials, non-proliferation, arms control and strategic stability issues with special reference to South Asia. His research work has been published by the Belfer Center, the Stimson Center, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the US Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.



Ms. Maimuna Ashraf

Maimuna Ashraf is currently working as a Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies (CISS) Islamabad, Pakistan. She focuses on South Asian nuclear issues, primarily India and Pakistan’s nuclear missile capabilities, conventional and nuclear military doctrines, postures and multilateral export control regimes. Ms. Ashraf is a former South Asian Voices (SAV) Visiting Fellow, Stimson Center. Previously, she was associated with an Islamabad based think-tank, Strategic Vision Institute (SVI), as Senior Research Associate. She also worked at Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU), Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) and interned at the Arms Control and Disarmament Affairs Directorate of Pakistan’s Strategic Plans Division.

Ms. Ashraf holds an M.Phil. in International Relations from Quaid-I-Azam University, Islamabad, Pakistan. Her M.Phil. dissertation related to Nuclear Disaster Management. She has been a coordinator and contributor in national conferences/seminars. Her opinions regularly appear in national and international dailies on issues of her interest.



And a delusional indian whose entire mindset is based around "denial" of facts and logic, and acceptance of all delusional fabrications of truth, which come form his own people who are masters at deceiving him and hiding their own incompetency.
Is anything new expected from him but to go and find excuses to keep denying the obvious, and keep living in a world of fantasy?

I think we shouldn't have given the enemy so many chances...

I think a smart fighter waits for the enemy to make a mistake or get tired before landing his only but a decisive blow.
To stop an enemy from committing a mistake is a bigger mistake...
 
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I never claimed India doesn't do it, just pointed out the source of the article for the fan boys. Every country does the same shit, its up to the readers intelligence to separate wheat from chaff. Of course India does have its own method of controlling/sponsoring news for consumption by masses but coercion , we are not there yet.

Once it is agreed that the state apparatus does exercise an effective control over the media and information; it hardly matters, what methods have been employed. End result, as far as common man is concerned, is the same.
 
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We showed the world what we are capable of.
Our biggest danger is the enemy within. We may be capable of military might, but for how long with the way things are inside of Pakistan?
 
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if it is posted by ppl related to propaganda organization connected to deep state in pakistan then it must be true, what other choice do they have any way ?

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed is a Senior Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies. He is also an Associate with the Managing the Atom Project, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School for 2018-2019 where he was a Post-Doctoral Research Fellow with the International Security Program/Managing the Atom Project for 2016-2018 and a Stanton Nuclear Security Junior Faculty Fellow for 2015-2016.

Previously, he was a Visiting Research Scholar at the Cooperative Monitoring Center, Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, N.M., USA in 2013.

He has also served as a Lecturer in the Department of Defence and Strategic Studies (DSS), Quaid-i-Azam University (QAU), Islamabad from 2011 to 2015, and as Visiting Faculty in the Department of Strategic and Nuclear Studies, National Defence University, Islamabad from 2009-2011.

Before joining the academia, he worked in the Pakistan Audit and Accounts Service from July 2003 to January 2011.

Dr. Ahmed holds a PhD in International Relations from Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad. His research interests include various aspects of Pakistani and Indian nuclear programs and policies; fissile materials, non-proliferation, arms control and strategic stability issues with special reference to South Asia. His research work has been published by the Belfer Center, the Stimson Center, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the US Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.



Ms. Maimuna Ashraf

Maimuna Ashraf is currently working as a Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies (CISS) Islamabad, Pakistan. She focuses on South Asian nuclear issues, primarily India and Pakistan’s nuclear missile capabilities, conventional and nuclear military doctrines, postures and multilateral export control regimes. Ms. Ashraf is a former South Asian Voices (SAV) Visiting Fellow, Stimson Center. Previously, she was associated with an Islamabad based think-tank, Strategic Vision Institute (SVI), as Senior Research Associate. She also worked at Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU), Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) and interned at the Arms Control and Disarmament Affairs Directorate of Pakistan’s Strategic Plans Division.

Ms. Ashraf holds an M.Phil. in International Relations from Quaid-I-Azam University, Islamabad, Pakistan. Her M.Phil. dissertation related to Nuclear Disaster Management. She has been a coordinator and contributor in national conferences/seminars. Her opinions regularly appear in national and international dailies on issues of her interest.
If you had some brain, you could have logically responded to whatever authors have presented. But if you are mentally challenged and have nothing to say logically (because truth cannot be defeated by falsehood), then you start abusing and attacking the writers. That shows you're defeated. So shut up, defeated and humiliated Indian.
 
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if it is posted by ppl related to propaganda organization connected to deep state in pakistan then it must be true, what other choice do they have any way ?

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed

Dr. Mansoor Ahmed is a Senior Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies. He is also an Associate with the Managing the Atom Project, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School for 2018-2019 where he was a Post-Doctoral Research Fellow with the International Security Program/Managing the Atom Project for 2016-2018 and a Stanton Nuclear Security Junior Faculty Fellow for 2015-2016.

Previously, he was a Visiting Research Scholar at the Cooperative Monitoring Center, Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, N.M., USA in 2013.

He has also served as a Lecturer in the Department of Defence and Strategic Studies (DSS), Quaid-i-Azam University (QAU), Islamabad from 2011 to 2015, and as Visiting Faculty in the Department of Strategic and Nuclear Studies, National Defence University, Islamabad from 2009-2011.

Before joining the academia, he worked in the Pakistan Audit and Accounts Service from July 2003 to January 2011.

Dr. Ahmed holds a PhD in International Relations from Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad. His research interests include various aspects of Pakistani and Indian nuclear programs and policies; fissile materials, non-proliferation, arms control and strategic stability issues with special reference to South Asia. His research work has been published by the Belfer Center, the Stimson Center, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the US Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.



Ms. Maimuna Ashraf

Maimuna Ashraf is currently working as a Research Fellow at the Center for International Strategic Studies (CISS) Islamabad, Pakistan. She focuses on South Asian nuclear issues, primarily India and Pakistan’s nuclear missile capabilities, conventional and nuclear military doctrines, postures and multilateral export control regimes. Ms. Ashraf is a former South Asian Voices (SAV) Visiting Fellow, Stimson Center. Previously, she was associated with an Islamabad based think-tank, Strategic Vision Institute (SVI), as Senior Research Associate. She also worked at Fatima Jinnah Women University (FJWU), Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) and interned at the Arms Control and Disarmament Affairs Directorate of Pakistan’s Strategic Plans Division.

Ms. Ashraf holds an M.Phil. in International Relations from Quaid-I-Azam University, Islamabad, Pakistan. Her M.Phil. dissertation related to Nuclear Disaster Management. She has been a coordinator and contributor in national conferences/seminars. Her opinions regularly appear in national and international dailies on issues of her interest.
These are all civilian institutes my friend. Of the two I know of mansoor Ahmed. He has been a valued contributor to our sister Forum. He has always been very objective. He only comments on matters related to nuclear history and technical matters related to his field. So to say that these are state sponsored spokespersons is an unfair assessment. I dont know about Ms Ashraf so wont comment.
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