What's new

Facing weak market share, Ford to exit Japan, Indonesia this year

Shotgunner51

RETIRED INTL MOD
Joined
Jan 6, 2015
Messages
7,165
Reaction score
48
Country
China
Location
China
Facing weak market share, Ford to exit Japan, Indonesia this year
January 25, 2016 7:30 AM
By Jake Spring and Naomi Tajitsu

BEIJING/TOKYO (Reuters) - Ford Motor Co (F.N) said on Monday it will close all operations in Japan and Indonesia this year as it sees "no reasonable path to profitability" in the two countries where it has struggled to gain market share.

Ford will exit all areas of business, including shuttering dealerships and stopping sales and imports of Ford and Lincoln vehicles, according to an email from Asia Pacific President Dave Schoch to all employees in the region viewed by Reuters. Product development carried out in Japan will be shifted elsewhere.

"Unfortunately, this also means that our team members based in Japan and Indonesia will no longer work for Ford Japan or Ford Indonesia following the closures," Schoch wrote in an email regarding the decision that was sent to employees on Monday.

Ford, one of Detroit's "big three" automakers, follows in the footsteps of General Motors Co (GM.N), which last year decided to stop making GM-branded cars in Indonesia - with the loss of 500 jobs - amid intense competition from Japanese rivals.

Ford began operating in Japan in 1974 and has 52 dealerships in the country, employing 292 people. Last year, it sold around 5,000 vehicles in Japan and held a share of around 1.5 percent of the imported new car market.

In Indonesia, where it entered the market in 2002, Ford has a staff of 35 and sells through 44 franchised dealerships. Last year, it sold around 6,000 vehicles, taking a 0.6 percent share of the total new car market in a country struggling from economic slowdown.

"In Indonesia, without local manufacturing ... there's just really no way that automakers can compete in that market, and we do not have local manufacturing," said a Ford spokeswoman based in Shanghai, confirming the content of the email.

The company has also had a tough time selling its Fiestas, Mustangs and Explorers in the Japanese market, which is dominated by Toyota Motor Corp , Honda Motor Co , Nissan Motor Co and other domestic brands.

On top of that, vehicle sales have been falling in Japan as the population ages and demand for cars by young people decreases.

(This version of the story deletes final paragraph after Ford spokeswoman says it no longer holds shares in Mazda, correcting earlier comment that it would maintain its minority stake after exiting Japan.)



Ford shutting down Japan and Indonesia - Business Insider
Matthew DeBord and Reuters
Jan. 25, 2016, 9:31 AM

BEIJING - Automaker Ford Motor Co said on Monday it will close all operations in Japan and Indonesia this year as it sees "no reasonable path to profitability" in the two countries.

Ford will exit all areas of business, including shuttering dealerships and stopping sales and imports of Ford and Lincoln vehicles, according to an email from Asia Pacific President Dave Schoch to all employees in the region.

Product development carried out in Japan will be shifted elsewhere.

"Unfortunately, this also means that our team members based in Japan and Indonesia will no longer work for Ford Japan or Ford Indonesia following the closures," Schoch wrote. A Ford spokeswoman earlier confirmed that an email regarding the decision was sent to employees on Monday.

The automaker employs 292 workers in Japan, while it has a staff of 35 in Indonesia and 44 dealerships there, according to Shanghai-based Ford spokeswoman Karen Hampton.

Ford follows in the footsteps of General Motors , which last year decided to stop making GM-branded cars in Indonesia - with the loss of 500 jobs - amid intense competition from Japanese rivals.

The story in these parts of Asia contrasts vividly with Ford and GM's operations and sales in China, where GM has been enjoying a surging market for the better part of a decade and Ford has recently begun to tap into the Chinese boom.

As China's growth slows, automakers are looking to refocus their Asian businesses. Japan in particular has never been a strong market for US domestic car makers, unlike their home market, where Japanese companies are firmly established and have over 40 years built up impressive markert share and loyalty among US consumers.

(Reported for Reuters by Jake Spring. Additional reporting by Naomi Tajitsu in TOKYO; Editing by Clarence Fernandez and Kenneth Maxwell)


@Nihonjin1051 @Indos
 
. .
Ah, sad .


Other than Ford, GM, apparently several other US businesses are also not competitive in Japan, and retreating. Citibank has already sold its Japanese unit to Sumitomo Mitsui, and McDonald's is likely the next.

Business is business, I wish Chinese counterparts (especially the weak and over-regulated sector like financial services, banking) become more and more competitive at home and overseas, and do more M&A on US businesses which are incompetitive but still possess residual values, Lenovo's acquisition of ThinkPad and Motorola were some case studies.
 
Last edited:
. .
Other than Ford, GM, apparently several other US businesses are also not competitive in Japan, and retreating. Citibank has already sold its Japanese unit to Sumitomo Mitsui, and McDonald's is likely the next.

Business is business, I wish Chinese counterparts (especially the weak and over-regulated sector like financial services, banking) become more and more competitive at home and overseas, and do more M&A on US businesses which are incompetitive but still possess residual values, Lenovo's acquisition of ThinkPad and Motorola were some case studies.


:)

 
. . .
Well everybody has to keep in mind that Japan is a tough market to crack.

Of the top 30 best selling vehicles in Japan NONE were foreign (as in no VW's, BMW's, Mercedes, Volvo's, etc)

Brand Model Sales 2015 % Change
1 Toyota Aqua 215,525 -7.6
2 Toyota Prius 127,403 -30.6
3 Honda Fit 119,846 -40.9
4 Toyota Corolla 109,027 -4.6
5 Nissan Note 97,995 -8.2
6 Toyota Voxy 92,546 -15.2
7 Toyota Vitz 77,612 -13.3
8 Mazda Demio 72,771 49.8
9 Honda Vezel 71,021 -26
10 Toyota Sienta 63,904 260.1
11 Nissan Serena 61,796 -19.7
12 Toyota Esquire 59,034 435.3
13 Toyota Harrier 58,991 -9.1
14 Nissan X-TRAIL 58,448 8.8
15 Toyota Vellfire 54,180 47.5
16 Toyota Noah 53,965 -22.5
17 Honda Step WGN 53,699 25.6
18 Toyota Passo 45,449 -8.7
19 Toyota Alphard 44,366 71.5
20 Toyota Crown 27,250 -9.9
21 Subaru Impreza 44,024 -4
22 Honda Freed 41,091 -24.3
23 Suzuki Solio 38,488 17.1
24 Honda Shuttle 34,992 New
25 Suzuki Swift 31,473 -20.1
26 Mazda CX-3 30,020 New
27 Subaru Levorg 29,484 -2.6
28 Toyota Supeido 28,809 -25.6
29 Mazda CX-5 27,243 -7.5
30 Mazda Axela 24,749 -41.8

So Ford is not the only foreign maker with sales issues. In fact Toyota pretty much owns the entire market (6 in the top 10, 14 out of top 30)...so even other Japanese car makers may be worried. (Honda 5/30, Mazda 4/30, Nissan 3/30, Subaru 2/30, Suzuki 2/30, Mitsubishi 0/30!!!)

hmm..no Toyota Camry or Honda Accord/Civic

280px-2012_Toyota_Prius_c_--_05-23-2012_2.JPG

#1 Toyota Aqua


280px-2010-2011_Toyota_Prius_--_12-21-2011.jpg

#2 Toyota Prius


280px-Honda_Fit_GK_01_Auto_China_2014-04-23.jpg

#3 Honda Fit


280px-2014_Toyota_Corolla_1.8_LE_%28ZRE172%29%2C_front_left.jpg

#4 Toyota Corolla


280px-Nissan_Note_1.6_Advance_2014_%2810282268824%29.jpg

#5 Nissan Note


280px-Osaka_Motor_Show_2013_%2859%29_3rd_generation_Toyota_NOAH.JPG

#6 Toyota Voxy


280px-2012_Toyota_Yaris_LE_--_NHTSA.jpg

#7 Toyota Vitz


280px-2014_Mazda2_%28DJ%29_Genki_hatchback_%282015-08-07%29_01.jpg

#8 Mazda Demio
 
Last edited:
. .
"In Indonesia, without local manufacturing ... there's just really no way that automakers can compete in that market, and we do not have local manufacturing," said a Ford spokeswoman based in Shanghai, confirming the content of the email.


@Nihonjin1051 @Indos

Haha... This is true.....

When you wanna sell autos in indonesia u should build ur factory here
 
.
Beautiful movement and video. What relevance does it have to the thread, or am I missing something?

a form of traditional dance we refer to as 剣詩舞 or ken shi bu, it usually indicates emotional expression of resistance. i suppose it is symbolic of japanese auto industry's resistance and victory of american auto industry in japan. ford, being the epitome of american auto industry, its defeat in japan is symbolic.
 
.
The golden days of Ford are long gone



@Penguin

Thx. Nice. Reminds me of my drive to work each day ;-)

First part I like a lot because it gives a very nice view of the San Francisco Bay Area, including a good view of Alcatraz. And just look at all the nice old cars, including a Porsche 356 Speedster cabrio/convertible. And a nice classic VW van.
 
. .
Well everybody has to keep in mind that Japan is a tough market to crack.

Of the top 30 best selling vehicles in Japan NONE were foreign (as in no VW's, BMW's, Mercedes, Volvo's, etc)

Brand Model Sales 2015 % Change
1 Toyota Aqua 215,525 -7.6
2 Toyota Prius 127,403 -30.6
3 Honda Fit 119,846 -40.9
4 Toyota Corolla 109,027 -4.6
5 Nissan Note 97,995 -8.2
6 Toyota Voxy 92,546 -15.2
7 Toyota Vitz 77,612 -13.3
8 Mazda Demio 72,771 49.8
9 Honda Vezel 71,021 -26
10 Toyota Sienta 63,904 260.1
11 Nissan Serena 61,796 -19.7
12 Toyota Esquire 59,034 435.3
13 Toyota Harrier 58,991 -9.1
14 Nissan X-TRAIL 58,448 8.8
15 Toyota Vellfire 54,180 47.5
16 Toyota Noah 53,965 -22.5
17 Honda Step WGN 53,699 25.6
18 Toyota Passo 45,449 -8.7
19 Toyota Alphard 44,366 71.5
20 Toyota Crown 27,250 -9.9
21 Subaru Impreza 44,024 -4
22 Honda Freed 41,091 -24.3
23 Suzuki Solio 38,488 17.1
24 Honda Shuttle 34,992 New
25 Suzuki Swift 31,473 -20.1
26 Mazda CX-3 30,020 New
27 Subaru Levorg 29,484 -2.6
28 Toyota Supeido 28,809 -25.6
29 Mazda CX-5 27,243 -7.5
30 Mazda Axela 24,749 -41.8

So Ford is not the only foreign maker with sales issues. In fact Toyota pretty much owns the entire market (6 in the top 10, 14 out of top 30)...so even other Japanese car makers may be worried. (Honda 5/30, Mazda 4/30, Nissan 3/30, Subaru 2/30, Suzuki 2/30)

hmm..no Toyota Camry or Honda Accord/Civic

280px-2012_Toyota_Prius_c_--_05-23-2012_2.JPG

#1 Toyota Aqua


280px-2010-2011_Toyota_Prius_--_12-21-2011.jpg

#2 Toyota Prius


280px-Honda_Fit_GK_01_Auto_China_2014-04-23.jpg

#3 Honda Fit


280px-2014_Toyota_Corolla_1.8_LE_%28ZRE172%29%2C_front_left.jpg

#4 Toyota Corolla


280px-Nissan_Note_1.6_Advance_2014_%2810282268824%29.jpg

#5 Nissan Note


280px-Osaka_Motor_Show_2013_%2859%29_3rd_generation_Toyota_NOAH.JPG

#6 Toyota Voxy


280px-2012_Toyota_Yaris_LE_--_NHTSA.jpg

#7 Toyota Vitz


280px-2014_Mazda2_%28DJ%29_Genki_hatchback_%282015-08-07%29_01.jpg

#8 Mazda Demio

Is it me, or are cars made by Mitsubishi not in the list?
 
. .

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom