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Facebook has priced its shares ahead of one of the most eagerly-anticipated share flotations in recent stock market history.

The social network said on Thursday that it valued shares at $38 (£24) each, and that its shares would begin trading in New York on Friday.

At this price the eight-year-old firm would be worth $104bn (£66bn).

Demand is set to be high; earlier this week Facebook said it would be selling 25% more shares than planned.

But questions remain about the firm's ability to generate profits and take advantage of mobile phone platforms.

There are also concerns that once the company has to answer to shareholders, there may be a greater emphasis on advertising to generate profits.

Limited say

Earlier this week, the company indicated the price would be between $34-$38 a share, with about 421 million shares up for sale.
This would represent one of the highest value share sales, or initial public offerings (IPOs) in US history.

By selling shares at that value, Facebook raised $16bn for itself.

However, the new shareholders will not have much of a say in how the company is run.

The shares on offer are A shares, which carry one vote per share, whereas the current owners' shares are B shares, which carry 10 votes each.

They will control more than 96% of the votes after the public listing, with founder Mark Zuckerberg holding just under 56% of the voting power of the company.

Mr Zuckerberg, who owns about 25% of the company, stands to gain the most from taking Facebook public. Fellow founders Dustin Moskovitz and Eduardo Saverin will also become paper-billionares overnight, as will Napster founder and former employee Sean Parker.

US venture capital firm Accel Partners and Russian internet investment group Digital Sky Technologies also hold significant stakes in Facebook, while Microsoft and U2 frontman Bono also stand to make a huge profit on their investment in the company.
Revenue growth

The social networking site has transformed the way in which hundreds of millions of people around the world communicate. It is also transforming the way companies advertise to existing and potential customers.
But Facebook's 900 million users helped the company generate just $1bn in profit last year, and there are concerns about its ability to grow profits in the future.

For while it holds a depth of personal information advertisers dream about, Facebook only generates about $5 a year per user.

This has led a number of commentators to question the company's valuation.

"Facebook will need to generate annual revenue of $30bn-$40bn in order to justify the likely valuation of the business," said Victor Basta at Magister Advisors.

"This is a tenfold increase over the revenues that it currently generates. The question is 'where from?'".

The potential revenue from online advertising is huge.

"We know our industry is $1tn worldwide," Martin Sorrell, chief executive of advertising giant WPP, told the BBC.

"We know internet advertising is currently 20% roughly [of the total]. We know people are spending almost a third of their time online in one way or another, so there's a vast opportunity for Facebook."
Generating greater revenues from this potential market is the first key challenge facing the company, both in terms of its own business model and in the face of strong competition from the likes of Amazon, Apple and Google.

"We're telling our investors to hold off," Oliver Pursche, president of Gary Goldberg Financial Services, told the BBC.

"Number one, we don't know what the guts and the balance sheet of the company looks like yet so that's a big red flag for us. We want to understand the business before we tell people to invest."
'Knife edge'

Facebook has identified mobile devices, phones and tablet computers as key areas for revenue growth, but observers say this will not be easy.

"[Facebook is] the holy grail for advertisers. It holds the minutiae of everybody's lives, the perfect concoction of information - age, sex and what you like," technology analyst Ernest Doku told the BBC.

"[But] so many people are engaged for so long, it's very difficult to lure them away to what you're trying to sell them."

The second big challenge is not alienating users while trying to maximise revenue.

"[The company] is balancing on a knife edge between servicing its users and pleasing its investors," Mr Doku said.

"It has been able put the user experience first and foremost, but now investors are going to want [a return]."

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Facebook is over valued. How come a website is valued at US 104 billion. No real assets.
 
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Facebook is over valued. How come a website is valued at US 104 billion. No real assets.

I dont go on it but for a fact i know it has literally millions that live on the site - just imagine the number hits it has per minute. The advertising and revenue it has is huge. I dont know the logistics at how its valued at the figure - needless to say if the market feels its overvalued the price will drop in the next few months...
 
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As surfing internet through mobile is on the rise at 90 degree angle, facebook gona face problems to monetize it with regard to limited space available on mobiles. Thus their are doubts on long term viability of investment in facebook's equity.

For short term investment, it seems lucrative on face of it.
 
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Facebook is a plague.

I don't fucking care when your baby made first steps, i much less care when your marriage anniversary is and i dont fucking like people pretending to be uber super dooper on FB when in reality they are pieces of shit.




/rant off
 
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I dont go on it but for a fact i know it has literally millions that live on the site - just imagine the number hits it has per minute. The advertising and revenue it has is huge. I dont know the logistics at how its valued at the figure - needless to say if the market feels its overvalued the price will drop in the next few months...

The value of any company is calculated from all the cash that can be realized from its assets assuming that the company is a going concern, that is it has infinite life. The only asset that Facebook has is its traffic. Lets say what happens when tech changes or people change the way they communicate or a lawsuit against Facebook or a new legislature that prohibits Facebook kind of information revealing companies or an good alternative to Facebook emerges or its management fails. In any of these case, Facebook as a going concern is in doubt, forget about $104 billion as its value.
 
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Bottom line is Price/Earning ratio of Facebook is in the 100s, compare that to the P/E ratio of Apple at 13. Very very expensive. Even though millions of people are on facebook, a recent study shows that didn't translate into ad revenue. GM has pulled out of FB citing that the investment in ads in FB was not getting them expected returns.
 
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The value of any company is calculated from all the cash that can be realized from its assets assuming that the company is a going concern, that is it has infinite life. The only asset that Facebook has is its traffic. Lets say what happens when tech changes or people change the way they communicate or a lawsuit against Facebook or a new legislature that prohibits Facebook kind of information revealing companies or an good alternative to Facebook emerges or its management fails. In any of these case, Facebook as a going concern is in doubt, forget about $104 billion as its value.

that question bothered Google investors upon its IPO too and the story later unfolded is quite disturbing if you sold off your holding, huh? Facebook is underpriced still IMO.

Bottom line is Price/Earning ratio of Facebook is in the 100s, compare that to the P/E ratio of Apple at 13. Very very expensive. Even though millions of people are on facebook, a recent study shows that didn't translate into ad revenue. GM has pulled out of FB citing that the investment in ads in FB was not getting them expected returns.

I would say the future of Facebook is still relying on the google like transformation. the good part of this newcomer in Nasdaq is it has clear customers, google is worse in that regards in its infant phase.
 
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I don't get facebook. I haven't update my info in years. I browse through the news feed only looking at pictures. If it has boobs, I'll click on it. I literraly spents 2 minutes on it a day. I never ever see ads.

Facebook has no real asset people info are outdated. Most put pictures on there about their vacations and the food they eat. How they hell they going to sell that to market is beyond me, but once it is bombarded with ads people will leave in droves.
 
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Much of the money in Facebook has already been made. No time to write large piece here but those who are hoping for doubling/trebling their money may be a bit disappointed.

But the first day trading could be lucrative for day-traders.
 
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I don't get facebook.
Facebook has no real asset

It is a tool to boost your ego and present yourself in the perfect light. That's why it's so popular. Also boasting....its epic

my example from today

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the text from the author says "my baby". She also often posts pics of her 2 sons (with a liberal amount of too emphasized motherly pride in text's below pics).
 
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Facebook has plans of entering in internet search like Google , having a full fledge email service
They are already working with Microsoft employees , there are rumors that Bing and FB will be incorporated
The recent Bing Search has awesome integration of FB

Within a year , FB will be totally different than what we it is now

Google plus failed .. There is like no competition to FB
 
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Facebook has plans of entering in internet search like Google , having a full fledge email service
They are already working with Microsoft employees , there are rumors that Bing and FB will be incorporated
The recent Bing Search has awesome integration of FB

Within a year , FB will be totally different than what we it is now

Google plus failed .. There is like no competition to FB
Unless you(FB) can monetize search like Google this post of yours is nothing but hot air ! FB is riding on the wave of social media & this giant social orgy will eventually end bust like the dotcom bubble from 2K ! Google on the other hand has expanded into desktop OS/mobile space in a big way & if they'd churn their own hardware(Motorola Mobility) like Apple they'll be the next Godzilla of the tech arena not FB :disagree:
 
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