Facebook, Oracle Grab IIT students for 1.4 and 1.8 crores

[Skull and Bones]

@Skull and Bones - Abbbb kuch sharam kar keh paaarhhh leiiii instead of spending the entire day at the Niagra Falls singing romantic poetry whilst playing a sitar !

Oo bhai, ab tu jal raha hai that i got a chokri and you're still supporting congress.

 

[arbit]

IITB is my alma mater and i can say one thing with my own experience. For a 20 odd year old working for a big name company is accorded higher priority than working in US or higher salary. Its a happy coincidence that these companies happen to pay the highest also.
Nation building at a cost to themselves is a concept not many understand at this age. And rightly so. Better opportunities, better environment, cutting edge tech are all available mostly in such companies which also happen to be based out of US.

So to admonish them is childish and frankly this discussion should never have happened. We should be happy for them. For those who can, they do and those who can't , they crib.

 

[Donatello]

nonsense events... they won't be respected by me unless they design india's first operating system and microprocessor.

This is the thing. The salary quoted in the post is not the average IIT graduate salary, very few of top crop get that much. You'll have same type of people at MIT or Caltech as well. They are called the outliers.

The average salary of a IITian is still less than that of Stanford.

A person who will be making half million USD salary or more right out of University in USA, will not bother with taking up a job. He'll go and start his own company. That is why Google/Facebook/Yahoo/Microsoft will offer lucrative salaries so the person doesn't become their competitor in the future.

This is a new problem in USA, earlier people majoring in STEM subjects would sometimes head to wall street for all it's glamour and perks. But now, so many of them are founding their own companies, that Wall Street has a serious shortage of mathematical/science wiz kids....and the average Salary in silicon valley is now more than wall street. Wall Street is no longer the 'glamour' it once was. And silicon valley has its own problems, since the best graduates are now starting their own companies, it means there is serious shortage of 'employed skills' in silicon valley. That is why they are forcing their US government to ease H1 restrictions for PhDs in STEM subjects.

In India, you don't have that luxury. Some do found their own companies, but most go the traditional way of having a job security. The concept of venture capitals, IPOs is still new.

technically correct, but they cannot be selfish and not participate in totally changing especially india... what will they do with that money... the same that typical indians do... buy a house in some middle-class area, buy a silly car, arrange a 600-guest wedding etc.

the lady earning that money won't probably help her in not being "honor killed"... remember the female college student from delhi who was murdered by her parents a few days back.

Sir what someone does with their money shouldn't be our concern. I've met Indians who criticize the billion dollar Antilla in Mumbai......but here is the thing, my money, it is up to me what i can do.

the instructions are executed without clock... they are very few in number ( less than 20 ) and highly optimized ( fixed-length, fixed-format, self-jumping )... they are allowed to execute until the whole operation is finished ( single-cycle ).

you are correct... handshake mechanism is used, not only for instruction execution but also in the i/o system ( clock-less serial i/o ).

i am not yet decided on whether to include a timer on chip ( timer for general external use ).

Without a real time clock, synchronizing external devices/communications with the CPU would be a nightmare. I am assuming it is a too Application Specific IC?

 

[jamahir]

And silicon valley has its own problems, since the best graduates are now starting their own companies, it means there is serious shortage of 'employed skills' in silicon valley. That is why they are forcing their US government to ease H1 restrictions for PhDs in STEM subjects.

and the native american computer programmers complain... ( Life of an I.T. Grunt | Notes From The Trenches of Software Development ).

This is the thing. The salary quoted in the post is not the average IIT graduate salary, very few of top crop get that much. You'll have same type of people at MIT or Caltech as well. They are called the outliers.

The average salary of a IITian is still less than that of Stanford.

i see.

A person who will be making half million USD salary or more right out of University in USA, will not bother with taking up a job. He'll go and start his own company.

true... plus the ones who don't bother with college degrees.

That is why Google/Facebook/Yahoo/Microsoft will offer lucrative salaries so the person doesn't become their competitor in the future.

believe me, no iit student of "computing" will ever found qnx or ibm or microsoft.

In India, you don't have that luxury. Some do found their own companies, but most go the traditional way of having a job security.

most indians don't take risks... i will be one of the few people of my age who dropped out of college.

The concept of venture capitals, IPOs is still new.

though venture-capital is not that new in india, there will sincerely be no qnx or spacex via route... almost every new indian computing start-up is about cell phone apps or shopping websites... there is even one company who "breed virtual fox-like creatures" on behalf of the second-life virtual-world website company...

This is a new problem in USA, earlier people majoring in STEM subjects would sometimes head to wall street for all it's glamour and perks. But now, so many of them are founding their own companies, that Wall Street has a serious shortage of mathematical/science wiz kids....and the average Salary in silicon valley is now more than wall street. Wall Street is no longer the 'glamour' it once was.

americans seemed to have tired of wall street...

Without a real time clock, synchronizing external devices/communications with the CPU would be a nightmare. I am assuming it is a too Application Specific IC?

1. it is a general purpose processor.

2. when i say "clock-less" i refer to instruction execution and memory transfers.

3. what is left real-time clocking issue... (a). the i/o system in our project is quite unique, and doesn't use any current interface standard ( usb, firewire etc ), (b). video is something we must look at because of recording frame-rate and playback frame-rate, (c). the networking architecture is still being developed, and it doesn't use any present standard ( ethernet, ip4/ip6 ), but as of now we think precise timer clocking is not necessary because other means can be used other than crystal-timers... hope i make sense.

4. "skull and bones" and me had a discussion about this in the "whatever" thread a few hours ago... i have tagged you there... please do read that discussion.

Sir what someone does with their money shouldn't be our concern. I've met Indians who criticize the billion dollar Antilla in Mumbai......but here is the thing, my money, it is up to me what i can do.

surely, having some money doesn't mean that one can construct one of the most ugly buildings in the world... eesh, i shudder on visualizing that bookshelf-like building... and has mukesh ambani ever read proper books??

 

[Donatello]

believe me, no iit student of "computing" will ever found qnx or ibm or microsoft.



most indians don't take risks... i will be one of the few people of my age who dropped out of college.



though venture-capital is not that new in india, there will sincerely be no qnx or spacex via route... almost every new indian computing start-up is about cell phone apps or shopping websites... there is even one company who "breed virtual fox-like creatures" on behalf of the second-life virtual-world website company...



americans seemed to have tired of wall street...



1. it is a general purpose processor.

2. when i say "clock-less" i refer to instruction execution and memory transfers.

3. what is left real-time clocking issue... (a). the i/o system in our project is quite unique, and doesn't use any current interface standard ( usb, firewire etc ), (b). video is something we must look at because of recording frame-rate and playback frame-rate, (c). the networking architecture is still being developed, and it doesn't use any present standard ( ethernet, ip4/ip6 ), but as of now we think precise timer clocking is not necessary because other means can be used other than crystal-timers... hope i make sense.

4. "skull and bones" and me had a discussion about this in the "whatever" thread a few hours ago... i have tagged you there... please do read that discussion.



surely, having some money doesn't mean that one can construct one of the most ugly buildings in the world... eesh, i shudder on visualizing that bookshelf-like building... and has mukesh ambani ever read proper books??

Hmm, okay. Well, i understand the app craze since someone sitting on a cheap computer with good skills in C/C++/C# and or Java/PHP can create his own work and sell to millions. That's the smartphone world, and those who jump on the bandwagon first, always come out winners. That is why all you see now is some sort of modified Skype or Whatsapp or Viber....i mean, how many messengers does one really need? Or photo sharing sites?


So what work do you do? I didn't understand the clock less part, any links to your or your group's published literature? Would love to read and reflect.

Without clock, the processor would be running really slow for a specific set of tasks, since it doesn't know when and how to honor an interrupt?

 

[Shinigami]

Its a reality. one can't do much about it. My wing mate was hired in Tower Research for 80 lacs per annum. Didn't make much news cost other companies had made even bigger offers .
But look at it this way. Sundar pichai, Indra Nooyi and all other folks we take pride in today is because of this brain drain only. This will benefit the country in long run. Win Win for us.

did you know that GOI subsidies the costs incurred for these people? and how does it get repaid? by offering the skills to another country