Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

[lastofthepatriots]

Zarwan this debate isn't about is Niqaab compulsory or not (though it isn't). It's about how women in the West should remove them for safety reasons, though it shouldn't be enforced but is better.



I like how you put that 'angel eyes, desi hero121'

You fink yer funny chat tin' shit? I'm in a propar mermaid mood today yah?

 

[Hell hound]

they disclose their identity at places where its needed for security clearance but oits not my right to watch the face of every girl out there

and what about cctvs, intelligence agencies or other monitoring tools of state

 

[Divergent]

You fink yer funny chat tin' shit? I'm in a propar mermaid mood today yah?

*raises an eyebrow and shakes her head* alright **** Munda Jawad sweet jiggar

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

and what about cctvs, intelligence agencies or other monitoring tools of state

Its fingerprint these days which are being taken at airport or visa centres when issue visa

 

[Divergent]

Can't remove it order of ALLAH and no where Islam says it would be easy HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW didn't faced all the troubles despite being a prophet so you can choose a cowards way out. RASOOL SAW faced all the troubles and his family and his companions so you have crystal clear message to stay firm on your thoughts and never back down.

It's not Fardh.

 

[Lagay Raho]

Zarwan this debate isn't about is Niqaab compulsory or not (though it isn't). It's about how women in the West should remove them for safety reasons, though it shouldn't be enforced but is better.

no one seems to listen to this part of yours,which i somewhat agree with
but its better if u try posting this stuff in womendefence.pk

 

[lastofthepatriots]

*raises an eyebrow and shakes her head* alright **** Munda Jawad sweet jiggar

It's Raza but close enough, jigra.

 

[Divergent]

no one seems to listen to this part of yours,which i somewhat agree with
but its better if u try posting this stuff in womendefence.pk

It's difficult to get a point across because they understand very little and assume too much.

 

[Zarvan]

It's not Fardh.

Yes it's farz that is why when order came in RASOOL SAW every women started doing it and continued to do so after him till now and will continue to do till day of judgement.

 

[Lagay Raho]

It's difficult to get a point across because they understand very little and assume too much.

Respectfully,disagreed

 

[Divergent]

It's Raza but close enough, jigra.

Dude I'm not saying I back banning Niqab, legally I will defend their right, but all I'm saying is morally it is better for them to just remove it because it has caused issues in the past previously and recently.

The West has to comply to Eastern cultures and when they go there they adhere to their cultural wear (modest clothing).

Though this isn't a ban it is advised as other headwear gear in public is also banned. I do see the issue in it

Yes it's farz that is why when order came in RASOOL SAW every women started doing it and continued to do so after him till now and will continue to do till day of judgement.

No.

 

[maximuswarrior]

what about the cctv security footage veil or face mask these things render them useless.

There are a million other ways to mask your face from CCTV.

 

[Divergent]

Respectfully,disagreed

That is your opinion.

 

[abdulbarijan]

Whether something good comes out of this thread or not ... the savagery shown by @lastofthepatriots is hall of fame level. Almost reminded me of this post by good ol @Areesh

Bhai Jaan I'm not denying that the West sometimes can chew more than it can swallow however what I am suggesting is in this instance I support the stance and though I will defend their right legally, morally I believe it is better for their own safety measures.

Things in Pakistan are different, it takes several shots for you guys to get the picture, it only takes less than a few and a terror incident was done due to this. It's created a lot of scare and removal of veil in public places isn't wrong it is just for security purposes.

Wearing the Hijaab and Jubba no one is objecting to, but face veil hasn't been banned nor fully implemented throughout West whereas hoodies and helmets have.

When the Western community goes to Eastern Countries they're advised to dress modestly or cover themselves, they respect the culture and do it.

-As far as the face veil goes my opinion is simple. If you want to, you should have the right to wear it. Simple as that. I simply called out what I saw was a blatant hypocrisy of states that claim to have such high moral standards of inclusiveness and diversity, but when it comes down to practice, they are the first ones to break the very standards that they've set. e.g. The French Burqa ban

-The security reasons mentioned by you and @Hell hound are definitely worth considering and sure you can easily make different cases for your opinion ... But you would have to consider, what's the cut off point ?

 

[Lagay Raho]

Whether something good comes out of this thread or not ... the savagery shown by @lastofthepatriots is hall of fame level.

hijacking women's thread like a real man
@lastofthepatriots aighta boy