I am not reading any Indian propaganda books I speak only truth, This is regarding the thread which says that Indian MIG was shot by inferior Sabre(according to the poster), In the context of the thread title and the content some comparisons will be drawn, It is in this context that I am replying with an example of JF17 and F16(JF17 may have scored kill on F16 but capabilty wise there exist a gap).
Regarding Longewala, I am replying to the poster who was replying me that IAF lost to PAF. You know war is a series of Battles and each battle is waged based on strategic interests, in this case PAF failed to engage over Longewala which it self comes under strategic failure.
IAF strategically made a good move and attacked the invading tanks and there by stopping the Pakistani thrust. My post do not come under trolling since one must also consider the context and explain the fact based on some comparisions.
The context of loss and victory is fairly pointless to be used here..
for eg.. shall the USAF be declared victorious against the NVAF just because it managed to inflict more losses?
Yes, because the USAF did end up achieving most of its objectiveness within that war.
Shall the Luftwaffe be declared the losers because they failed to meet their objectives set out by the Reich?
Yes, the Third Reich fell.
The failure to meet objectives is the greatest loss in a war. The RAF supposedly lost at Dunkirk because it was forced to retreat along with the rest of the allied forces? or did it achieve a victory by meeting its objectives of providing sufficient aircover for the retreat to go along successfully.
Pakistan lost the war hence the PAF lost it.
However, the objectives of the PAF were to survive as much as it could against an IAF onslaught to be at maximum possible ORBAT provide support for the PA's counter offensive. In that context, the PAF survived the relentless onslaught.. delaying it through denial of usage of airfields.. provided commendable support in the Shakargarh areas where it promised on being able to deliver.. and managed to extract kills on the IAF within that process.
In the east, a single squadron of aircraft.. SINGLE.. with 12 aircraft.. operating from a SINGLE besieged airfield.. managed to hold out against TEN squadrons or with an average of 14 aircraft per squadron some 136 aircraft to 12 or a ratio of being outnumbered 11 to one with NO early warning other than that of some 3 minutes thanks to most of its MoU's being butchered.
managed to survive for over 48 hours.
Even the most proud and unflinching of generals would give credit to this performance as a victory of resilience.
At the end of the war, the PAF was still ready to put up a fight in the west... it MET its objectives against the IAF whose goal was to deter it from doing so.
You may not call it a victory, but it is certainly no defeat.
So how did the PAF fail