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F-16s for Pak could cloud IAF's 126-plane deal: India to US

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Yes, i understand you point.

But all that hopefully is falling on the deaf ears because all the Indian whining is stupid and not supported by facts.

thanks.
 
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Yes, i understand you point.

But all that hopefully is falling on the deaf ears because all the Indian whining is stupid and not supported by facts.

thanks.

The people in Indian Govt. arent stupid my friend..for if they were we wud not have our hands on sophis. western meachinery/tech.. the other thing money alone cannot buy everything.
you can call it whining ... but where we indians see it from its called politics and clever ideas to stop pak acting against us in future.
 
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WTH i thought F-16s were Coming free.But i don't believe that we are actually buying them with Cold Hard Cash.

I mean on one side we say that Americans are Unreliable on other hand we continue to buy Equipment.
 
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The people in Indian Govt. arent stupid my friend..for if they were we wud not have our hands on sophis. western meachinery/tech.. the other thing money alone cannot buy everything.
you can call it whining ... but where we indians see it from its called politics and clever ideas to stop pak acting against us in future.

How is that clever when the whole basic point is false? At least have some credibility reserved for the future.
 
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Hi,
woo India is trying to use MMRCA as a leverage to stop the sales of 18 f-16 fighter jets to Pakistan. I guess even if India succeeds then Pakistan can opt for Raphael or more J-10's :yahoo:
 
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i think we must also buy euro-fighter,this will balance our relations with USA.
i think euro fighter will be given us under t of t
 
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i think we must also buy euro-fighter,this will balance our relations with USA.
i think euro fighter will be given us under t of t

How much Euro fighter??? and how Eurofighter will balance ur relationship With USA?:undecided:
 
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Nomi007, yes good idea, if Indians will go for US jets then we will have European jets option Raphael being a top contender as i am not sure if they are willing to gives us Eurofighter, BTW dude wicked avatar hehehhe:pop:

However i am sure that Americans have lot more to gain from Pakistan's cooperation in Afghanistan then gaining 10 billion dollars which they already have :cheers:
 
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Ya Ya get EF and Raphael and everything.

But there is a slight Problem who's gonna pay the Bill??
 
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Ya Ya get EF and Raphael and everything.

But there is a slight Problem who's gonna pay the Bill??
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i don't know who paid the bill for Eierye, f22p, previous f-16's, if India will procure some thing like f-18 with AESA radar Pakistan will have acquire something potent as well
 
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Please could somebody tell me why do we want 126 mainline fighter planes from an unreliable, untrustworthy and backstabbing nation like US. Is pakistan so important that it has to come into such a strategic weapons/decision.
 
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Guys no point talking about this - This has no bearing on Indian Defense as such.

18 more F-16s cannot match 100 odd SU 30 MKIs close to 150 in the next some years and then 126+ MMRCAs all top notch best in the world.

It is a good exercise to get a feel of the OBAMA administration towards India - Its plain Diplomacy - even if they are buying them or getting them in AID we should not be concerned as much - It does augment their capabilities but then in the current scenario with a huge fleet of ours the, 60-80 F-16s cannot do a lot of harm to us so really we do not need to react at all.

Our government warned the US, now if US goes ahead with it, they will only have themselves to blame if they do not win the 126-200 odd aircrafts deal and quite frankly we will not be losing out on anything since we have better aircrafts than the F-18s and the F-16s in the competition.

I would anyways put the F-18s out since we just got a fleet of Mig 29Ks for our carrier and more on Order, so an F-18 looks like out of the Question - On the other hand now that the F-16 are being considered as "Target Practice Drones" by the US apart from the fact that Pakistan has already mastered that bird, it will definitely not go down well with our AF and the public if we buy them.

So from where I look at this both th F-16s and F-18s are out of the contenders already. But the Indian government is smart - it may have found a way to blame the US for them losing despite the fact that we were never gonna buy them anyways! LOL!

THE BABUs are not all that stupid!

:cheers::cheers:
 
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i don't know who paid the bill for Eierye, f22p, previous f-16's, if India will procure some thing like f-18 with AESA radar Pakistan will have acquire something potent as well

So what.They are also either on soft loans or some form of grants.Even JF-17 is on seller's credit.It's Western Avionics are on Loans.f-16s,F22P they are all cheap stuff.EF on other hand is 100+million Plus close to 120 mils.

F-16 would be like 35-40 and F-22P are like 150 mils.So Compare yourself.

India is getting all the stuff on hard cash not on loans or grants.If Pakistan so fond of good western tech then start developing economy.Because all the fancy stuff comes with money.
 
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