F-16 deal expires amid Pakistan-US row over finances

[volatile]

With mullah mansour being dead pakistan gets extra time , I believe that F16's will be delivered after some more drama. Pakistan-US relations would beat any soap opera hands down.

Dont worry about our Drama ,love and hate story we are quite immune to this for last 65 years or so.Real twilight is in making for India/US and it will be fun to see .

 

[Alpha Fighter]

Trying to discord? When US sanction Pakistan and nobody offer nuclear help to Pakistan. Its Chinese that step in.

lol not trying discord , just telling reality, How many free $$ China has given to you just like US did? Not even in natural calamity China send u help in first place.

 

[Wolf]

Trying to discord? When US sanction Pakistan and nobody offer nuclear help to Pakistan. Its Chinese that step in.



F-16 is not the cheap fighter jet in last 20 years. It has monster into an expensive jet with string attached and yet offer no few generation ahead of JF-17 fighter. I dont know what is the obsessed with F-16 when other option are available.

Our policy makers don't have the mind to apply that if you can't afford F 16, then why invest in it. An economical and reliable alternative is required which is none other than J10c at the moment.

 

[Super Falcon]

I hope we dont buy them these are the tools of blackmail

Message to PAF do not waste dignity of this country and its people on just your desire of F 16

Ask USA from now on we wont contribute to u in any means

Because in 1st you say Pakistan is important ally but u strengthen enemy of your ally

USA via india cant cutt off china

 

[Indus Pakistan]

1- Our economy at that time was not so strong so we can not buy a new jet and bear its induction cost, training, infrastructure, maintenance facilities and tactics development.
2- We had AMRAAMs (a long awaiting weapons for BVR combat )and other advance equipment (New Radars, Sniper Pods, More powerful engines, and other up-gradation in avionics) with those F-16s.
3- Its operationally very easy to induct F-16s in PAF' s current doctrine.
4- Ground Crew and Pilots are familiar with this platform for quite long time.
5- PAF's Engineers and Technicians are trained to maintain this jet.
6- It also gave PAF an opportunity to upgrade their old fleet on same standard like 50.

Very good points. I would add two more. US subsidy and the Turkish angle.

7- Subsidy by US taxpayer. Your getting premium jet at throw away price.
8- Turkish TAI has manufactured F-16s under licence therefore Turkey offers a total support package in terms of assured parts and modernization/renovation support. Given close Turkish/Pak relations this gives F-16s security against interferance.

I dont know what is the obsessed with F-16

Please read the 1-8 points enumerated above.

 

[Beast]

Our policy makers don't have the mind to apply that if you can't afford F 16, then why invest in it. An economical and reliable alternative is required which is none other than J10c at the moment.

F-16 used to be cheap and heavy US subsidised. Now F-16 is getting more expensive and even refurbised one cost more than a new JF-17.

W/o subsidised and so many string attached. F-16 is crapped for PAF.

lol not trying discord , just telling reality, How many free $$ China has given to you just like US did? Not even in natural calamity China send u help in first place.

Dont BS, its totally free. When Pakistan hit with a massive flood few years ago. Its China being largest donor. Uncle Sam is not where to be seen.

 

[Alpha Fighter]

F-16 used to be cheap and heavy US subsidised. Now F-16 is getting more expensive and even refurbised one cost more than a new JF-17.

W/o subsidised and so many string attached. F-16 is crapped for PAF.


Dont BS, its totally free. When Pakistan hit with a massive flood few years ago. Its China being largest donor. Uncle Sam is not where to be seen.

Well Flood came on July2010, China started donating in Sept, After Heavy international pressure and criticism that even India donated more then China to PAK, before that China only offer peanuts.

Even PAK begin to question its deeper then ocean and higher then mountain friend for not donating / coming forward.

 

[Alpha Fighter]

Very good points. I would add two more. US subsidy and the Turkish angle.

7- Subsidy by US taxpayer. Your getting premium jet at throw away price.
8- Turkish TAI has manufactured F-16s under licence therefore Turkey offers a total support package in terms of assured parts and modernization/renovation support. Given close Turkish/Pak relations this gives F-16s security against interferance.


Please read the 1-8 points enumerated above.

Turkish produces under lic, but some parts would be came from US. especially engine.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

8- Turkish TAI has manufactured F-16s under licence therefore Turkey offers a total support package in terms of assured parts and modernization/renovation support. Given close Turkish/Pak relations this gives F-16s security against interferance.

 

[war&peace]

It seems that power unseen hand of Providence is finally dictating this country towards its ultimate destiny among comity of nations.

Would you like to elaborate what is your notion of that ultimate destiny?

 

[Beast]

Well Flood came on July2010, China started donating in Sept, After Heavy international pressure and criticism that even India donated more then China to PAK, before that China only offer peanuts.

Even PAK begin to question its deeper then ocean and higher then mountain friend for not donating / coming forward.

So much of your lies. We all know your agenda here. Maybe next time you want to claim India contributed more of nuclear technology to Pakistan and her ballistic missile program than China?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Stop worrying so much, the PAF we all know says very little until someone else ends up spilling the beans, if they had it their way, nothing would be said at all.

 

[Wolf]

So why this option is not used till now? who is going to give Free money? China ? don't expect.

Chinese won't give you free money as they know us inside out that money will be shifted to offshore companies. Chinese instead give you physical infrastructure which is more useful and durable such as investment in cpec, PAC kamra JF 17, HMC, submarines, power projects

 

[Imran Khan]

soon US will release them for shut our mouth on balochistan drone attack

 

[war&peace]

So much of your lies. We all know your agenda here. Maybe next time you want to claim India contributed more of nuclear technology to Pakistan and her ballistic missile program than China?

Great that you recognised the idiot and his agenda.