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[Liquidmetal]

Nice for advertising catchlines, technically irrelevant. With AWACS,satellite and anti aircraft missiles India should not be worried about the new shiny expensive toy. Our AWACS will monitor every single take of and landing in pakistan within 70kms from our border. But let them enjoy it just as every other airforce does.

Every western country claims that their weapon or technology is best. Only during the war we will know how good they are. Even the much touted B2 bomber boasting stealth capabilities was shot down by serbia.

I don't think the B2 has ever been shot down! I believe the stealth jet that was shot down was the F117 Nighthawk and it was a very clever commander who figured some radar quirks and used that to target the aircraft. However, you forget how many hundred of sorties were flown and Serbia was decimated, which is why they pulled out and stopped the war. The actual action matched their catch-lines.

Though, we can assure you that we do respect the IAF and I agree it is a very powerful and professional organisation, one of the best!

 

[Sneaker]

Cant see anything

That is the point!!!!

 

[Viper0011.]

I will again the same thing

F 16 is a good plane but IAF is a FAR superior force

If you really want more facts here it is

IAF can defeat PAF ; EVEN without putting up a single SU 30 MKI in the battle

IAF can defeat PAF with its Mig 29 and Mirage 2000 and Mig 21 Bison

WOW WOW, speedy, calm. Let me answer your post with bold parts one by one:

1) IAF is "far superior" in numbers and at THIS time. With 150 BVR JFT's and 70 F-16's if you just take these, you risk of losing over 100 SU-30's......I can NEVER imagine India would take such a chance at this time, with a big giant Dragon on the other border. So because of that, your numbers even have to multiply. Now if you take JUST Pakistan specific squadrons in the next 2-3 years. Its not that bad. India could and will never try to put all the IAF to attack Pakistan. You might as well open your border's gates and put signs saying "welcome to China".

2) If IAF can defeat the PAF that would be when the PAF doesn't fly any of its MLU'd F-16's and JFT's. Otherwise, you are the aggressor so you'd be susceptible to SAMS, AA and the PAF (both point defense fighters and the bvr ones)

3) I'd hate to disclose your depot maintenance situation on here. Let's just say the IAF and the PAF are in similar problems with regards to their Mig-21's, 23, 27, some Jaguars, Mirage's and F-7's in PAF's case. But the IAF has larger numbers and its peacetime so its not causing any serious issues.

 

[wiseone2]

WOW WOW, speedy, calm. Let me answer your post with bold parts one by one:

1) IAF is "far superior" in numbers and at THIS time. With 150 BVR JFT's and 70 F-16's if you just take these, you risk of losing over 100 SU-30's......I can NEVER imagine India would take such a chance at this time, with a big giant Dragon on the other border. So because of that, your numbers even have to multiply. Now if you take JUST Pakistan specific squadrons in the next 2-3 years. Its not that bad. India could and will never try to put all the IAF to attack Pakistan. You might as well open your border's gates and put signs saying "welcome to China".

2) If IAF can defeat the PAF that would be when the PAF doesn't fly any of its MLU'd F-16's and JFT's. Otherwise, you are the aggressor so you'd be susceptible to SAMS, AA and the PAF (both point defense fighters and the bvr ones)

3) I'd hate to disclose your depot maintenance situation on here. Let's just say the IAF and the PAF are in similar problems with regards to their Mig-21's, 23, 27, some Jaguars, Mirage's and F-7's in PAF's case. But the IAF has larger numbers and its peacetime so its not causing any serious issues.

if air to air combat is the only criteria the paf could wage a defensive war with the aircraft.

i am not sure what is the ability of the indian air force to hit paf aircraft on the ground. if they can hit paf aircraft on the ground it has the potential to turn into a rout

 

[Thorough Pro]

Two things are free in Pakistan, hunting pigs and bashing Indians. LOL

The last time I checked I was banned for responding to Iranians

 

[MICA]

Pakistan needs to induct 36 F-16 Block 52 to match Indian acquisition of Rafales.

however the rafale is still a better plane than the Block 52

 

[MastanKhan]

Even the much touted B2 bomber boasting stealth capabilities was shot down by serbia.

Hi,

Really--that is scary then---one should be concerned---a B 2 hehn----you sure---.

Agreed , you claim is correct. It was a F-117A stealth fighter. But they did claim it was a stealth fighter that cannot be detected by radar.

So, what was that after completing around a 50 sorties that it happened.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

I will again the same thing

F 16 is a good plane but IAF is a FAR superior force

If you really want more facts here it is

IAF can defeat PAF ; EVEN without putting up a single SU 30 MKI in the battle

IAF can defeat PAF with its Mig 29 and Mirage 2000 and Mig 21 Bison

Just find out the real strength of IAF

We have more training and better experience. In every war we had with India; we maintained air superiority even with inferior technology and numbers. Look at 1965 war in which we shot down 110 Indian Jets (Only in dog fights) with the loss of 13 at the same time setting a record of downing 6 jets within a minute. Technology has little to do with Air Superiority, its the pilot that matters.

 

[Viper0011.]

While Sidewinder is great, but does PAF possess them?

In hundreds I think.....they bought 500 AMRAAMS not too long ago too

 

[Max Pain]

I will again the same thing

F 16 is a good plane but IAF is a FAR superior force

If you really want more facts here it is

IAF can defeat PAF ; EVEN without putting up a single SU 30 MKI in the battle

IAF can defeat PAF with its Mig 29 and Mirage 2000 and Mig 21 Bison

Just find out the real strength of IAF

last i heard, the Bisons are falling off from skies without any Pakistani intervention at all

 

[ALexxy87]

WOW WOW, speedy, calm. Let me answer your post with bold parts one by one:

1) IAF is "far superior" in numbers and at THIS time. With 150 BVR JFT's and 70 F-16's if you just take these, you risk of losing over 100 SU-30's......I can NEVER imagine India would take such a chance at this time, with a big giant Dragon on the other border. So because of that, your numbers even have to multiply. Now if you take JUST Pakistan specific squadrons in the next 2-3 years. Its not that bad. India could and will never try to put all the IAF to attack Pakistan. You might as well open your border's gates and put signs saying "welcome to China".

2) If IAF can defeat the PAF that would be when the PAF doesn't fly any of its MLU'd F-16's and JFT's. Otherwise, you are the aggressor so you'd be susceptible to SAMS, AA and the PAF (both point defense fighters and the bvr ones)

3) I'd hate to disclose your depot maintenance situation on here. Let's just say the IAF and the PAF are in similar problems with regards to their Mig-21's, 23, 27, some Jaguars, Mirage's and F-7's in PAF's case. But the IAF has larger numbers and its peacetime so its not causing any serious issues.

You cannot compare the peacetime scenario with wartime.(though it's applicable for all nations.) During wartime, most of the national reserve is used for production and maintenance of hardware (tanks, artillery, IFVs, aircraft and so on.) Just like the number of war machines produced during WW2 easily outnumbers the total production of all time combined.

 

[Donatello]

same can be said about you.

Except i don't claim LCA to be superior to BLK52
JF-17 inferior to Mig 21 bison
Arjun superior to every tank
Rafale able to shoot down F/A22
.....and so on and so forth....

 

[abdulbarijan]

Don't bother with thinking .....Just post the link for Sidewinder's (that is AIM 9X and not 9M..... I hope you understand the diff. between the two) purchase......... and Yes PAF do have AMRAAM's (120C5)

@All the members
Gentlemen........ Any links or proofs for the PAF purchase of AIM-9X?
Thanx

Aim 9-X and Aim 9-L are different models of the same family -- Nobody here as I browsed through the thread said PAF has the Aim-9X's and even if we ended up purchasing them I doubt the first thing PAF officials would worry about is to throw the information on a website so that the material can help the internet warriors from our side --

BTW, the "Sidewinder" is a family of missiles --- just like the "falcon" family of the F-16's irrespective of the blocks ---

 

[OrionHunter]

F16 is still most versatile and war proven platform.

If you have to bet your life. You will choose f16 over any other jet except f22.

Right! The sexiest looking aircraft in the world I feel is the F-16!! Kudos to the designers!

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Indians r at another level of stupidity.