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Exclusive! Obama may back India's permanent UNSC membership bid

Unrelated to India being elected a non-permanent member of the United Nations Security Council by a landslide, there has been a critical mass developing among senior administration officials that President Barack Obama announce America's support for India for a permanent UNSC seat, preferably during his address to a joint session of Parliament during his visit next month

Sources told Rediff.com that the argument put forth by these officials was that the US had everything to gain and nothing to lose by making such an endorsement.

The UNSC reform issue, the officials argued, including the expansion of the permanent members, would not come for months and could take even years.

But an explicit and unambiguous show of support for New Delhi [ Images ], the officials pointed out, would have a major positive impact on both the Indian government and -- more importantly -- the people of India.

The officials contend that even if ultimately the likes of China and Pakistan and/or other members succeed in torpedoing India's bid if and when a decision is taken to expand the permanent membership of the Security Council, the US can always say that it did support India -- goodwill that could be banked on a permanent basis.

According to the sources, these administration officials arguing for Obama to make such an endorsement were of the view that this could be the "real big issue" that could leave Obama's imprimatur on the visit and make it transformational instead of merely symbolic -- as the president has made clear he wants it.

It would also forever be his legacy in India as the US president who supported India's candidacy unambiguously, these officials argued.

At the same time, these officials were also working to ensure that the tangible deliverables like the removal of India from the Entities List -- a pet peeve of New Delhi -- could be worked out before Obama takes off from Andrews Air Force Base on Air Force One, November 4.

Sources acknowledged that the US and Indian officials were also working on several other possible agreements to be announced during Obama's visit.

These include cooperation in the Global Commons like solar energy in space and a possible US-India global venture on open democracy, e-governance and democratisation of information where Obama's Chief Technology Officer Aneesh Chopra was the point man and was in contact with senior Indian information technology specialists following his recent visit to India.

Administration and diplomatic sources also disclosed that India's Deputy National Security Adviser Alok Prasad will visit Washington, DC, to move the ball forward in anticipation of Obama's visit.

But while all of these were unquestionably big ticket items, the sources said, they would pale in comparison and not capture India's imagination as would an Obama endorsement of India's candidacy for the Security Council.

The administration officials who were strongly urging this show of support, the sources said, were reinforcing their arguments by making the case that such an endorsement of India's bid would elicit overwhelming bipartisan consensus in the US Congress and be much more spontaneous than the support garnered for the US-India nuclear deal where intense lobbying and arm-twisting was necessary.

One reason for some of these senior officials urging Obama to support India, the sources said, were the battery of Indian officials including National Security Adviser Shiv Shankar Menon [ Images ] who visited Washington, DC, during the past two weeks hammering away on this issue of India's eligibility to be a permanent member.

The Indian officials seized upon recent statements by the likes of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton [ Images ], Under Secretary of State William Burns and others, who have gone further than any previous US administration in acknowledging India's credentials for a permanent Security Council seat, but stopped just short of a full-scale endorsement.

Recently, when Rediff.com asked Burns if apprehensions that China would strongly object were holding the US back from supporting India's candidacy, he denied that there was any such factor.

A quintessential diplomat, he said, "As we look ahead to reform of the UN Security Council and the issue of expansion of Security Council membership in the future, it's a very important issue. We clearly see India as a central player in that consideration."

Some other officials, however, have acknowledged that there certainly is the China factor.

Other detractors have warned that Pakistan's paranoia would be exacerbated, and more so if Obama made the endorsement during his trip in India, since Islamabad [ Images ] already feels slighted that the US president is not visiting Pakistan.

Last week, State Department Spokesman Phillip J Crowley was asked if Obama would endorse India's bid for a permanent Security Council seat during his visit.

Crowley stuck to the script, saying, "We are well aware of India's aspirations to play a more significant, you know, global role."

"We have welcomed that expanded role by India both on regional issues and global issues," he said. "We will work within the UN and within the Security Council because, you know, we recognise that there are a number of countries in the world that have those same aspirations. We are committed to work constructively on UN reform."

Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee [ Images ] was in Washington, DC, for the annual World Bank-International Monetary Fund meetings earlier this month. Following his meeting with Secretary Clinton -- where Obama's visit was discussed -- Mukherjee was asked if US support for India's candidacy would be on the agenda when Obama meets Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [ Images ].

"No," Mukherjee said, "I cannot say what will be on the agenda between the president and the prime minister. These are being worked out. But our position has been stated for quite some time. The prime minister discussed this with the president of the United States of America on earlier occasions also... I feel that when the reforms in the UN will take place and the Security Council will be expanded regarding permanent membership category, India will have a place. I hope so. But, first, it is to be expanded."

When National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon was asked if he had received any commitments from US officials, he said, "How the US chooses to do it, when the US chooses to do it, is really for the US to decide... I don't think we are shy in any way, letting it be known what we expect."

Exclusive! Obama may back India's UNSC bid - Rediff.com India News
 
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Well then, that will be all five permanent members, who support India's ambition for a permanent seat at the UNSC.
 
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Well, that will be all five permanent members, who support India's ambition for a permanent seat at the UNSC.

I hope you are right. but the article expresses doubt on China favouring India in this regard. and Chinese govt has not come out firmly saying yes to India for the permanent seat.
 
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sounds like some massive wheeling & dealing is going on before obama's visit!! Bush came with few goodies including a massive one! wonder what obama has in store??
 
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I hope you are right. but the article expresses doubt on China favouring India in this regard. and Chinese govt has not come out firmly saying yes to India for the permanent seat.

The Chinese government officially supports India for a permanent seat at the UN Security Council. This has been the position since 2005.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_United_Nations_Security_Council

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If India gets the backing of all five permanent members, they should leave the G4, and go for an individual bid.

Out of the G4, India has by far, the best chance of becoming a permanent member.

Japan's bid will be shut down by China and South Korea. Germany won't get a seat, as Europe is already over-represented with two permanent members.
 
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Reform of the United Nations Security Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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If India gets the backing of all five permanent members, they should leave the G4, and go for an individual bid.

Out of the G4, India has by far, the best chance of becoming a permanent member.

Japan's bid will be shut down by China and South Korea. Germany won't get a seat, as Europe is already over-represented with two permanent members.

thats right. But it supports India's bid without the veto power.
 
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thats right. But it supports India's bid without the veto power.

The voto power, in al fairness is something all non veto powers resent and none of the veto powers wanna give up. So getting it will be very tough. However if US agrees to veto for India, then China will eventually have to give in too. Thats my feeling.

Lots of haggling will go on behind the scenes, only countries like Pakistan or Venezuea will posture publically, but that won't matter.
 
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The voto power, in al fairness is something all non veto powers resent and none of the veto powers wanna give up. So getting it will be very tough. However if US agrees to veto for India, then China will eventually have to give in too. Thats my feeling.

Lots of haggling will go on behind the scenes, only countries like Pakistan or Venezuea will posture publically, but that won't matter.

thats right, but then the question arises,should india go for it, if a permanent seat is offered without the veto ??
 
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I ve somewhere read that the G-4 nations have decided that either all four of them should get the membership or no one gets.

Is it true..? Is there any chance that two members get and the other two dont get.?
 
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IMHO, the news seems to be premature. Obama is only likely to make some "pleasant noises" on the subject when he comes visiting. When he gets squeezed some more (around the end of his term) he is likely to sing a different "aria".
Chinese-Dragon, probably is more correct. On basis of "principles" China is more sympathetic to the Indian cause, but will take more time to crystallize that into material terms.
Let us wait and watch.
 
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IMHO, the news seems to be premature. Obama is only likely to make some "pleasant noises" on the subject when he comes visiting. When he gets squeezed some more (around the end of his term) he is likely to sing a different "aria".
Chinese-Dragon, probably is more correct. On basis of "principles" China is more sympathetic to the Indian cause, but will take more time to crystallize that into material terms.
Let us wait and watch.

Exactly... we need more "developing countries", and non-Western powers on the Security Council.

Japan is in the pocket of the USA, and Germany is just another EU representative.

Both have "pacifist" constitutions as a result of World War 2... so I don't think they have a place in the UNSC.

India on the other hand, is an "Independent power"... with an independent foreign policy. Also, as a fellow developing nation, we will often share similar goals.
 
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Exactly... we need more "developing countries", and non-Western powers on the Security Council.

Japan is in the pocket of the USA, and Germany is just another EU representative.

Both have "pacifist" constitutions as a result of World War 2... so I don't think they have a place in the UNSC.

India on the other hand, is an "Independent power"... with an independent foreign policy. Also, as a fellow developing nation, we will often share similar goals.

And India has shown its desire to remain independent over the last six decades. I hope the Chinese realise that their cooperation in meeting India's legitimate goals helps keep India independent, something in China's interest too.
 
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I ve somewhere read that the G-4 nations have decided that either all four of them should get the membership or no one gets.

Is it true..? Is there any chance that two members get and the other two dont get.?

That is exactly the problem with expansion of UNSC. The G4 members have put all their eggs in one basket - so to speak, and have intertwined their destinies to win UNSC seats with each other.

Brazil and India are IIRC the only 2 members who have endorsement from all the members (expect a few ofcourse) for a permanent seat. China vehemently opposes Japan's bid while Germany has its own problems (Israel also opposes Germany's bid IIRC - correct me if I am wrong).

Everyone in G4 gets a seat or else whoever gets a seat rejects it if all dont get through.
 
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