Excerpts from the US diplomatic cables burst Pakistani myth

[Shockwave]

Many a times I have seen some pakistani members of this forum ranting that PAF is superior to the IAF when it comss to training, tactics and handling of dquipment, well this is what the people who donate them F16s and other weapons believe.

3. (C) While we understand New Delhi's opposition to the program, the reality is that this program will not degrade India's overwhelming air superiority over Pakistan. Reducing the munitions package will not significantly affect either costs or regional stability. We have and will deny arms sales that we believe would upset the regional balance of power, as we have with the recent GOP request to buy the Coastal Targeting Suppression System, which enables Harpoon missiles to be fired at land or near-land targets using GPS technology.


12. (C) India enjoys an almost 2-1 advantage (736 to 370) over Pakistan in advanced multi-purpose fighters. Pakistan's shortfalls in training and tactics multiply India's edge. Pakistan also plans to buy/jointly produce 150 inferior JF-17 fighters from China, but it is unclear how they will pay for them. Meanwhile, India plans to acquire 126 multi-purpose fighters (F-18 or equivalent) that will give the GOI

13. (C) The sale of new aircraft and 500 AMRAAM missiles would give Pakistan beyond visual range capability, but Pakistan will acquire the ability to employ this capability with either the new buy or MLU aircraft. Canceling the new buy would thus only delay the process by 18 months. Successful employment of this capability by the PAF, however, will take 2-3 years and a significant revision of doctrine and tactics. The Indian Air Force already routinely trains on existing beyond visual range tactics.

Here you can read all about it.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09ISLAMABAD586_a.html

 

[Raider 21]

Many a times I have seen some pakistani members of this forum ranting that PAF is superior to the IAF when it comss to training, tactics and handling of dquipment, well this is what the people who donate them F16s and other weapons believe.

3. (C) While we understand New Delhi's opposition to the program, the reality is that this program will not degrade India's overwhelming air superiority over Pakistan. Reducing the munitions package will not significantly affect either costs or regional stability. We have and will deny arms sales that we believe would upset the regional balance of power, as we have with the recent GOP request to buy the Coastal Targeting Suppression System, which enables Harpoon missiles to be fired at land or near-land targets using GPS technology.


12. (C) India enjoys an almost 2-1 advantage (736 to 370) over Pakistan in advanced multi-purpose fighters. Pakistan's shortfalls in training and tactics multiply India's edge. Pakistan also plans to buy/jointly produce 150 inferior JF-17 fighters from China, but it is unclear how they will pay for them. Meanwhile, India plans to acquire 126 multi-purpose fighters (F-18 or equivalent) that will give the GOI

13. (C) The sale of new aircraft and 500 AMRAAM missiles would give Pakistan beyond visual range capability, but Pakistan will acquire the ability to employ this capability with either the new buy or MLU aircraft. Canceling the new buy would thus only delay the process by 18 months. Successful employment of this capability by the PAF, however, will take 2-3 years and a significant revision of doctrine and tactics. The Indian Air Force already routinely trains on existing beyond visual range tactics.

Here you can read all about it.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09ISLAMABAD586_a.html

Whatever makes the Indian government feel comfortable. A supposed sale of 126 fighter jets for the Indian Air Force did not worry the Pakistani government one bit. But when they wanted to order 8 F-16 C/Ds for PAF, the Indian government lost their mind.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-jets-against-india-say-us-lawmakers-2773701/

So the numbers maybe in favour of the IAF, but believe me from a neutral point there is a fear factor from the Indian government when it comes to PAF (I cannot speak about the IAF's point-of-view).

 

[The Eagle]

Many a times I have seen some pakistani members of this forum ranting that PAF is superior to the IAF when it comss to training, tactics and handling of dquipment, well this is what the people who donate them F16s and other weapons believe.

3. (C) While we understand New Delhi's opposition to the program, the reality is that this program will not degrade India's overwhelming air superiority over Pakistan. Reducing the munitions package will not significantly affect either costs or regional stability. We have and will deny arms sales that we believe would upset the regional balance of power, as we have with the recent GOP request to buy the Coastal Targeting Suppression System, which enables Harpoon missiles to be fired at land or near-land targets using GPS technology.


12. (C) India enjoys an almost 2-1 advantage (736 to 370) over Pakistan in advanced multi-purpose fighters. Pakistan's shortfalls in training and tactics multiply India's edge. Pakistan also plans to buy/jointly produce 150 inferior JF-17 fighters from China, but it is unclear how they will pay for them. Meanwhile, India plans to acquire 126 multi-purpose fighters (F-18 or equivalent) that will give the GOI

13. (C) The sale of new aircraft and 500 AMRAAM missiles would give Pakistan beyond visual range capability, but Pakistan will acquire the ability to employ this capability with either the new buy or MLU aircraft. Canceling the new buy would thus only delay the process by 18 months. Successful employment of this capability by the PAF, however, will take 2-3 years and a significant revision of doctrine and tactics. The Indian Air Force already routinely trains on existing beyond visual range tactics.

Here you can read all about it.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09ISLAMABAD586_a.html

Keep calm and read all about, wikileaks from 2009 wouldn't do wonders today. A lot has been changed. Threads fro trolling are not allowed which is clear in the opening lines here.

Thanks