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Ex-ISI chief admitted Mumbai attack planners were ‘our people’, claims Husain Haqqani

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"Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US, Husain Haqqani"
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Hussain Haqqani is an opportunist c.nt who will sell his own mother for benefits.. This bastard has always bitten the people who helped him.. From Bhuttos to the country .. He's a certified c.nt nugget.

I'm disturbed that after all this time there has not been more discussion of the purpose of Pakistan training for and launching these attacks. It's as if killing Jews and Indians is seen as desired and accepted in and of itself.

Shut your dirty trap zionazi:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/84508/wikileaks-isi-chief-met-israelis-to-stop-india-attack/
 
Forget Haqqani but what about the DG who led the investigation? is he a liar too? is NS a liar? is the French journo who found Kasabs family a liar too? is the voice samples fake? why does Lakhvi prove it by giving us a sample?

This is all lies and really it was a false flag attack, end of court verdict :crazy: let's all go home and eat Mutton Pilau now

The training camp was identified and secured by the investigators. The casings of the explosive devices used in Mumbai were recovered from this training camp and duly matched. Third, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists for hijacking an Indian trawler in which they sailed to Mumbai, was brought back to harbour, then painted and concealed. It was recovered by the investigators and connected to the accused. Fourth, the engine of the dinghy abandoned by the terrorists near Mumbai harbour contained a patent number through which the investigators traced its import from Japan to Lahore and then to a Karachi sports shop from where an LeT-linked militant purchased it along with the dinghy. The money trail was followed and linked to the accused who was arrested. Fifth, the ops room in Karachi, from where the operation was directed, was also identified and secured by the investigators. The communications through Voice over Internet Protocol were unearthed. Sixth, the alleged commander and his deputies were identified and arrested. Seventh, a couple of foreign-based financiers and facilitators were arrested and brought to face trial.
 
You do not contest my point that you are attempting to derail the thread.

What is there to contest? you are basing your arguments on a news item by someone who is a absconder to not just a ordinary court in Pakistan but its Supreme court.

And I am quoting your serving IDF chief about the sickness of your society.

understand the difference?
 
Interesting article. Do we know if the Chief's claim is true - has it been corroborated? Regardless, it's evident that any information he may have provided was insufficient to stop the attacks. He might just have been covering his butt.

The claim is made by wiki leaks not the "chief".

But I bet you already knew that.. You are just here to troll.
 
What is there to contest? you are basing your arguments on a news item by someone who is a absconder -
Now we're talking! I wonder....although there have been multiple stories about "ISI chief admitted..." do they all trace back to H.H. or not?

The claim is made by wiki leaks not the "chief".
The linked story only reports what the ISI chief claimed to a U.S. diplomat, yes?
 

Anyway the recent Saudi US sanctions on LET members shows we are moving on closing the net.. just wait for a while you will see more US drama :agree:

I am going to sleep wake me up when world give a shit about India...I may never have to wake up gain
 
Now we're talking! I wonder....although there have been multiple stories about "ISI chief admitted..." do they all trace back to H.H. or not?

The linked story only reports what the ISI chief claimed to a U.S. diplomat, yes?

Unless confirmed by ISI itself, there is zero credibility to such news items. Specially related to Husain Haqqani.

Its quite funny to see you act like a fish out of water when I mentioned IDF cheif Maj. Gen. Yair Golan.
 

The Magnificent Dillusions of Hussain Haqqani
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George Orwell’s Animal Farm is a simple story: the animals rise up against their human masters, take over the farm, and cry liberation. But some beasts are bolder than others: slowly but surely, a new tyranny emerges under the pigs.

And in Animal Farm — a satire of the Soviet nightmare — we find Squealer the pig, a mouthpiece for leader (and fellow swine) Napoleon.

Squealer has “twinkling eyes” and “nimble movements”. He’s “a brilliant talker, and when he was arguing some difficult point, he would skip side to side … the others said of Squealer he could turn black into white.” Yes, Squealer’s spin is vital to the porkers’ takeover.

None of this, of course, is to draw a comparison to the esteemed Mr Husain Haqqani — after all, Squealer remained loyal to the pigs throughout. But the former ambassador’s scruples are his greatest strength: a selective amnesia that’s spun him 180 degrees; from a student at KU, to a wise man on world affairs at Boston University today.

Which is why the man from the IJT now sounds like he’s joining the BJP (stand warned Sanghis, he’ll break your saffron hearts too). In his latest media blitz last week, Mr Haqqani advised Pakistan to stop “constantly competing” with India — while addressing India over NDTV. Surely Bharat agrees already?

And earlier this month, it was again to the Press Trust of India Mr Haqqani spoke: that Pakistan had lost international support on Kashmir. Might we spot a pattern?

No, not that pattern. Whatever Mr Haqqani’s critics say, he’s not trying for the Padma Bhushan. Turning chameleon again, the gentleman switched from Krishna Menon to John Bolton last April: “[…] American weapons will end up being used to fight or menace India and perceived domestic enemies,” Mr Haqqani wrote for the WSJ, “instead of being deployed against jihadists.” The op-ed was titled, “Why Are We Sending This Attack Helicopter to Pakistan?”

To which Pakistan may have asked, who’s ‘we’? Of late, Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US has become the US’s ambassador to Pakistan — if that ambassador were a nagging neocon with an axe to grind.

But to understand Brand HH and why he’s giving the republic a kicking, we need to go back. From day one, Mr Haqqani has been Team Charhta Suraj: a hired hand for the biggest boys on the playground. At KU, those were quite literally the Jamiat.

Outside campus “I also developed a personal bond with [General Zia],” wrote Mr Haqqani. “General Zia was staunchly pro-Western, but had an Islamic vision of sorts that could be captivating. He saw himself as God’s instrument in getting rid of the communists in Afghanistan, which (he correctly foresaw) would mark the disintegration of the Soviet Union.” This paper’s Aakar Patel even suspected HH ghostwrote Mr Sharif’s tribute to General Zia in Shaheed-ul-Islam. Having lent himself to both general and Jamiat, it only followed that Mr Haqqani would fall in love with Nawaz Sharif and the IJI.

But that’s when the mud starts piling up. As the late, great Cowasjee sahib put it, “During Nawaz-I and Benazir-II the most prominent weaver [of lies] and damage-doer was Husain Haqqani.”

The IJI hit where it hurts: from airdropping pamphlets of Begum Bhutto waltzing with Jerry Ford, to forging Benazir’s ‘letter’ to Peter Galbraith calling for American action. But the right’s resident Squealer was implicated more than once. “He came up with the nickname ‘Mr 10 Percent’ for my father,” the PPP’s current chairman told Charlie Rose in 2012. “… Since then, [he’s] made a shift towards a belief in a democratic Pakistan.”

As to why belief in democracy was contrary to mocking Asif Ali Zardari, the chairman didn’t say. Nor did his predecessor: Shaheed Mohtarma took Mr Haqqani back in, a liberal reborn.

Enter Squealer 4.0: like a football forward constantly trading up teams, Mr Haqqani hit the jackpot —Ambassadorship in 2008, courtesy President Zardari’s sense of humour. Embraced by America’s red-meat right, The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg saluted the ambassador with a straight face: “A one-time Islamist turned pro-democracy Americaphile.”

The Iraq war’s leading cheerleader, Goldberg enjoys betting on the wrong horse. He even thought the Raymond Davis murders were Mr Haqqani’s “finest moment”. “Haqqani helped engineer an elegant solution,” gushed Goldberg. “He turned to … Muslim family law which allowed the dead men’s families to be compensated with blood money. This is the ploy that sprang Raymond Davis from jail.”

A ploy flawed in law: were the fisad fil-arz test applied, a thug like Davis would never be let off. But who cares? All hail His Excellency for busting out a foreign national who murdered two of our own — a diplomatic first.

Yet it was too good to last. Like a fortune teller, Cowasjee had diagnosed the delusion in ’99: “[Haqqani] considers himself capable, with the necessary help, of climbing up the greasy pole and leading the 140 millions to glory.”

After the Osama raid, the ambassador overshot; he may have thought the ‘necessary help’ would be American intervention, that it would fix the civ-mil imbalance (if with a new imbalance in favour of American civilians). Reads the memo to Mike Mullen, “Should you be willing to do so, Washington’s political/military backing would result in a revamp of the civilian government that … replaces … national security officials with trusted advisers … favourably viewed by Washington.”

His Excellency denies involvement.

Mr Haqqani now occupies that rarest of spaces in American public life: an exile with an agenda. Other worthies include Iraq’s Chalabi and Iran’s Pahlavi Junior — gents the Department of Defence blows hot and cold on, given the season.

But like all spin gurus, the man’s solutions aren’t solid: they range from the West putting Islamabad in its place, to Pakistan preferably castrating itself first. A recent book, Magnificent Delusions, is a study in our ingratitude (even the front cover is a Stars-and-Stripes bonfire).

The trouble is, Husain Haqqani isn’t representative of Pakistan; he’s not even representative of Husain Haqqani five years ago. Pakistan too has moved on: the war has been taken to the militants, at tremendous risk. Confidence is up and terror is low, but it’s a long road ahead. It’s time HH move on as well, if in the direction of the next rising sun (the Chinese Communist Party, perhaps?).

On another, lighter note, Mr Haqqani is famed for tweeting poetry on weekends. A gentleman of wide learning, it’s hoped His ex-Excellency stumbled across Aziz Nazan:

Ghaflat ki neend mai sonay walay dhoka khayega/Chadhta suraj dheeray dheeray dhalta hai, dhal jayega.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 29th, 2015.
 
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I am going to sleep wake me up when world give a shit about India...I may never have to wake up gain


Well considering the Saudis deported one of the 26/11 culprits to India, the US sanctioned LET members, interpol issued red corner notices. Cameron the PM of UK issued statements about double dealings I think the world is well aware but is Pakistan?
 
Now we're talking! I wonder....although there have been multiple stories about "ISI chief admitted..." do they all trace back to H.H. or not?

The linked story only reports what the ISI chief claimed to a U.S. diplomat, yes?

Find us a denial by the US diplomat "yes"?

Well considering the Saudis deported one of the 26/11 culprits to India, the US sanctioned LET members, interpol issued red corner notices. Cameron the PM of UK issued statements about double dealings I think the world is well aware but is Pakistan?
Yet none of that proves that the state of Pak was involved ?
 
At least two thirds of the terror plots against Britain have originated from Pakistan,

This is according to British intelligence

Find us a denial by the US diplomat "yes"?

Yet none of that proves that the state of Pak was involved ?

I am not taking about the state but non-state actors such as Lakhvi and there was a former major too who's name popped up and has sanctions on him, Mir something is last name is.
 
Well considering the Saudis deported one of the 26/11 culprits to India, the US sanctioned LET members, interpol issued red corner notices. Cameron the PM of UK issued statements about double dealings I think the world is well aware but is Pakistan?

you forgot to mention my hair dresser said something in favor of India too, but I have no hair
 
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/26-11-pak-majors-get-interpol-warrants/1/115448.html

Besides them, the Interpol also issued notices against retired Pakistan Army Major Syed Abdur Rehman, top Lashkar-e-Tayyeba terrorist Sajid Majid alias Sajid Mir and the alleged head of the 313 Brigade of al-Qaeda, Illyas Kashmiri.

Illyas Kashmiri was killed in a drone attack (we can forget him) but what about others?

you forgot to mention my hair dresser said something in favor of India too, but I have no hair

Ah but you said the world does not care? wow Americans do not care when their citizens get killed nor UK nationals? heck nobody does why did the Saudis even deport one of the culprits?
 
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