Ex-ISI chief admitted Mumbai attack planners were ‘our people’, claims Husain Haqqani

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Ex-ISI chief admitted Mumbai attack planners were ‘our people’, claims Husain Haqqani
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Published: May 10, 2016
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Pakistan’s former ambassador to US says Gen (retd) Shuja Pasha revealed it during his Washington’s visit in 2008. PHOTO: FILE

Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US, Husain Haqqani, has claimed that shortly after the 2008 Mumbai attacks the then Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief General (retd) Shuja Pasha had admitted the planners of the 26/11 attacks were “our people” but it was not “our operation”.

The revelation, which appears in Haqqani’s a forthcoming book on India-Pakistan relations, recounts the visit by General (retd) Pasha to Washington on December 24-25, 2008, where the former spy chief is said to have made the startling admission, according to The Hindu.

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On November 26, 2008, 10 heavily-armed gunmen laid siege to the capital of India’s Maharashtra, including luxury hotels, a Jewish centre, a hospital and a bustling train station, killing 166 people. The lone surviving gunman Ajmal Kasab was hanged in India on November 21, 2012.

At the end of his meetings with his CIA counterpart General Michael Hayden, Pasha had reportedly visited Haqqani at the latter’s residence. “Pasha said to me ‘Log hamaray thay, operation hamara nahin tha’,” Haqqani writes in the book — “India vs Pakistan: Why Can’t We Just Be Friends?”

“General Pasha had also told General Hayden that ‘retired military officers and retired intelligence officers’ had been involved in the planning of the attacks,” Haqqani said while speaking to the Indian newspaper over telephone from Washington.

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The conversation between the chiefs of the ISI and CIA has been recounted in three books earlier — by then US National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice in her memoirs, Bob Woodward in his book “Obama Wars” and earlier this year by General Hayden himself in his autobiography, “Playing to The Edge”. However, this is the first time General Pasha’s words corroborating the ISI link have been recorded by a Pakistani official.

According to Haqqani, the link was confirmed by the fact that Pakistan’s government never prosecuted the accused. “The fact that we never pursued the case against the accused [officers] in the 26/11 case despite all the evidence that had been provided: not just by India, but by the US, by the American NSA, including intercepts of conversations during the attacks, that pointed a finger at us, at the Pakistan government,” he said.

This article originally appeared on The Hindu.

 

[Dr Gupta]

Even the main agent investigating the case said the same, so what is new here?

http://www.dawn.com/news/1198061

The whole world knows that South Punjab is the epicentre of Islamic terrorism, heck even the recent terror attack in USA had links to a Pakistani woman who attended a extremist madrasa.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1198061


he following facts are pertinent. First, Ajmal Kasab was a Pakistani national, whose place of residence and initial schooling as well as his joining a banned militant organisation was established by the investigators. Second, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorists were imparted training near Thatta, Sindh and launched by sea from there. The training camp was identified and secured by the investigators. The casings of the explosive devices used in Mumbai were recovered from this training camp and duly matched. Third, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists for hijacking an Indian trawler in which they sailed to Mumbai, was brought back to harbour, then painted and concealed. It was recovered by the investigators and connected to the accused. Fourth, the engine of the dinghy abandoned by the terrorists near Mumbai harbour contained a patent number through which the investigators traced its import from Japan to Lahore and then to a Karachi sports shop from where an LeT-linked militant purchased it along with the dinghy. The money trail was followed and linked to the accused who was arrested. Fifth, the ops room in Karachi, from where the operation was directed, was also identified and secured by the investigators. The communications through Voice over Internet Protocol were unearthed. Sixth, the alleged commander and his deputies were identified and arrested. Seventh, a couple of foreign-based financiers and facilitators were arrested and brought to face trial.

After an exchange of multiple investigation dossiers with the Indian police authorities, the trial court was requested to give approval to obtain voice samples of the alleged commander and his deputies for comparison with the recorded voices. The court ruled that the consent of the accused should be obtained. Obviously, the suspects refused. Then a plea was submitted before the sessions court to authorise the investigators to take the voice samples despite the lack of consent. The plea was denied on account of there being no such provision in the Evidence Act or the antiterrorism law applicable at that time. The investigators then went in appeal before the High Court. That appeal, I believe, is still pending. The Fair Trial Act, 2013 caters for admissibility of such technical evidence. However, its application with retrospective effect is a moot point.

The Mumbai case is quite unique: one incident with two jurisdictions and two trials. While the Indians managed to nab Ajmal Kasab and were able to obtain his confession to close the trial, proving conspiracy in a different jurisdiction is more complex and requires a far superior quality of evidence. Therefore, the legal experts from both sides need to sit together rather than sulk and point fingers.

Indian interlocutors, engaged during the talks between the then prime ministers of India and Pakistan in Egypt in 2009, had conceded that the Pakistani investigators had done a professional job in the indictment of seven perpetrators of the attack. However, the Pakistani authorities should not forget that the FIA declared various other facilitators and operatives as fugitives in the case. The trial will not be over with the disposal of those under arrest or on bail. Other missing links need to be uncovered after the absconders’ arrest.

This case will not be over soon.

Are we as a nation prepared to muster the courage to face uncomfortable truths and combat the demons of militancy that haunt our land? That is the question!

The writer is former DG, FIA.

 

[Nefarious]

Selective and improvised hearing at work. Should use some of that payroll to invest in a hearing aid.

 

[hassan zohaib]

According to Haqqani, the link was confirmed by the fact that Pakistan’s government never prosecuted the accused. “The fact that we never pursued the case against the accused [officers] in the 26/11 case despite all the evidence that had been provided: not just by India, but by the US, by the American NSA, including intercepts of conversations during the attacks, that pointed a finger at us, at the Pakistan government,” he said.

if these were concrete evidence then india should have prosecuted the case in international court of justice or at some other appropriate neutral forum.

General Pasha had also told General Hayden that ‘retired military officers and retired intelligence officers’ had been involved in the planning of the attacks,” Haqqani said while speaking to the Indian newspaper over telephone from Washington.

o wow here in pakistan Gen Shujja Pasha is thought to b a genius who created party like PTI only in one public meeting and reality is that he disclosed top secret mistake of pakistan before General Hayden.
how pathetic he was................

 

[Dr Gupta]

if these were concrete evidence then india should have prosecuted the case in international court of justice or at some other appropriate neutral forum.



o wow here in pakistan Gen Shujja Pasha is thought to b a genius who created party like PTI only in one public meeting and reality is that he disclosed top secret mistake of pakistan before General Hayden.
how pathetic he was................

Pakistan refused that flat out saying it will be done in Pakistani courts

http://articles.economictimes.india...rt-26-11-mumbai-attack-case-attack-mastermind

 

[graphican]

Yea, Gen Pasha would go before a known traitor and admit before him that people who did carnage in India were actually "our people". That means,

- Either Hussain Haqani is "Grand Master" of ISI before who Chief of staffs go and present their secrets
- and then the "Grand Master" Hussain Haqani is a "Moronic Grand Master" because he doesn't know what goes into his organization and has to learn from DG after it happened.

or

- Ex ISI Chief is also a traitor like Hussain Haqani himself who trusted Hussain Haqani for the news which no one else knew except he himself and he revealed it to "Traitor Grand Master Mr. Hussani".

No matter which way you put, the story doesn't make sense. Consider this another brain far*t of Mr. Haqqani and move on.

 

[Vapnope]

Pasha had reportedly visited Haqqani at the latter’s residence. “Pasha said to me ‘Log hamaray thay, operation hamara nahin tha’,”

Our people means Pakistani, no?

 

[Dr Gupta]

Anyway the recent Saudi US sanctions on LET members shows we are moving on closing the net.. just wait for a while you will see more US drama

 

[Gufi]

Anyway the recent Saudi US sanctions on LET members shows we are moving on closing the net.. just wait for a while you will see more US drama

Yes, yes, US senators... We really care....

 

[Dr Gupta]

Yes, yes, US senators... We really care....

One simple question, we know the voice was of Lakhvi if he is innocent why not give a simple sample?

You think it was just Indian people who died on 26/11?

think the Americans really cared when they killed Ilyas Kashmiri?

Came close to the capital of Pakistan took Bin Laden out and few back while you slept?

You think they cared when they sanctioned the F16 YOU PAID FOR?

They are the masters in this game they playing it right now but sometimes we can't see until too late.

 

[Rank]

Enough to understand the credibility of this news
"Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US, Husain Haqqani"
- India, Haqqani lobbying against F-16 deal.
- Memo gate: Husain Haqqani caught in web of scandal.

 

[Gufi]

One simple question, we know the voice was of Lakhvi if he is innocent why not give a simple sample?

We do not respond to Governments whose Ministers talk about breaking our country in four or attacking it. Violent threats seem to bounce of us... As do war footing threats.
First solve the other problems, there is a line, you can not cut the line. Go from root causes up, not to the one you feel like picking and ignoring the rest....
As to what America thinks or not, the people do not really care, and there are too many issues that our politicians have at the moment to really care what America thinks also
As for American sanctions, they would not think about it, and if you disagree try that...
As for our military ties, Americans still call on our COAS and depend on his help in the region.

They are the masters in this game they playing it right now but sometimes we can't see until too late.

Oh we are distancing ourselves as we speak, we understand their policies well. You are the ones who are getting friendly with them now, enjoy the total support you receive from them. The best thing is as US distances itself and brings itself closer to India we get closer to real friends...

 

[war&peace]

It is really pathetic to quote HH for anything since he is a liar.

 

[Photon]

Yea, Gen Pasha would go before a known traitor and admit before him that people who did carnage in India were actually "our people". That means,

- Either Hussain Haqani is "Grand Master" of ISI before who Chief of staffs go and present their secrets
- and then the "Grand Master" Hussain Haqani is a "Moronic Grand Master" because he doesn't know what goes into his organization and has to learn from DG after it happened.

or

- Ex ISI Chief is also a traitor like Hussain Haqani himself who trusted Hussain Haqani for the news which no one else knew except he himself and he revealed it to "Traitor Grand Master Mr. Hussani".

No matter which way you put, the story doesn't make sense. Consider this another brain far*t of Mr. Haqqani and move on.

At that time HH was your ambassador to US.

Besides what he is saying is nothing new, Every one, knows this fact that Mumbai massacre was done by Pakistanis.
Even Pakistan government accepts this fact.

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/kl...s-part-of-Mumbai-attack-was-planned-ther.html

 

[wadi79]

‘Log hamaray thay, operation hamara nahin tha’,

These log went on to do a number of operations within Pakistan as well with attacks on schools, colleges, houses of worship, hospitals, polio-vaccination teams and on markets. If all this hasn't made an average Pakistani look within, I am very doubtful that a news story will convince them of their government's complicity. Unfortunately, the adventurism of their deep-state will cost lives of innocent citizens.