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Every freedom fighter should get equal respect..wat do u think.?????

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We indians are mentally manipulated on gandhi ,from starting we are told to worship this guy...
but fighters like Bose,Bhagat n others are not praised...
i dont want to dig up the history n write here but i hv my opinion and it cant be changed ....

You are entitled to your opinion, all that is being asked of you is to maintain a certain decorum while you do it.
 
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I disagree, up till 1946, the Quaid was in favour of keeping with a united India and there was a lot of nostalgia in the people too. Our ancestors still reminisce about their homes in India and almost all families are divided on both sides, my grandfather's father and brothers couldn't make it past the border and now half of may family is somewhere in Nagpur. In such a case, people would not have opted for partition if they had been given hope of better treatment than what they received under the British.

United but how? What was being suggested to keep it united was, in my opinion, a false choice. It simply would not have worked or had it held even briefly, we would have ended up with a highly polarised, religious state with constant friction internally. A religious wedge had been created &an united India was simply a pipe dream. I respectfully disagree with your family's decision to migrate (even if I understand) as I do with Mr.Jinnah's opinion on what a genuinely democratic country might have meant for the Muslims of pre-partition India.
 
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This A##hole Gandhi n his ancestors have drown india... :hitwall:

What have you or you ancestors done for India..............Go through History.............How much pain they have taken to keep more than 500 princely states united under Indian Union...........

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Gandhi on Indian Currency is Ok..............Otherwise Tomorrow they may Print Indra ( i Respect this lady a lot) , Rajiv etc on Currency...........Then BJP,.........Think if Maya or Mamta or Jaya become PM of India..........they will print their photos on Indian Currency.
 
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I have never understood this idolisation of Subas Chandra Bose as some sort of a strong leader with a clear mind & a plan to liberate India and mocking Gandhi as feeble and blinded. For heaven's sake, Subas Chandra Bose actually thought the Japanese & the Germans were India's friends & would help in getting independence for India. What the Japanese thought was made very much clear in their war behaviour in Asia & when they took Andamans. We would most likely have been treated in such a manner that the British would have come across as angels & been sorely missed. The Germans were race driven, Subas Chandra Bose was at best, a useful tool. Hitler admired the British for taking India, once suggesting that Gandhi & all other freedom fighters be executed. Hardly a friend of the Indian people.

Subas Chandra Bose was a dashing figure whose death in mysterious circumstances has kept an halo around him. A careful reflection on his choices show that it was he & not Gandhi who was both naive & a overly optimistic dreamer who if he had succeeded would have probably landed both himself & his country in hot, very hot waters.
 
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I have never understood this idolisation of Subas Chandra Bose as some sort of a strong leader with a clear mind & a plan to liberate India and mocking Gandhi as feeble and blinded. For heaven's sake, Subas Chandra Bose actually thought the Japanese & the Germans were India's friends & would help in getting independence for India. What the Japanese thought was made very much clear in their war behaviour in Asia & when they took Andamans. We would most likely have been treated in such a manner that the British would have come across as angels & been sorely missed. The Germans were race driven, Subas Chandra Bose was at best, a useful tool. Hitler admired the British for taking India, once suggesting that Gandhi & all other freedom fighters be executed. Hardly a friend of the Indian people.

Subas Chandra Bose was a dashing figure whose death in mysterious circumstances has kept an halo around him. A careful reflection on his choices show that it was he & not Gandhi who was both naive & a overly optimistic dreamer who if he had succeeded would have probably landed both himself & his country in hot, very hot waters.


In case, you"re interested, here is a good CIA extract about INA

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I have never seen any Nationality abusing their Freedom Fighters & Father of Nation .............................but we, bigmouthed Indians do......................
 
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Gandhi was the one who started communalising the politics with his support for Khilafat movement and laid the seed for pseudosecularism in India.


As for Subhash, his thoughts were benevolent but his actions like aligning with Japan was not a prudent one as he did not realise Japan were far worse imperialists than British were.

I would say Sardar Patel and Anne Besant were better leaders anyday.
 
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Gandhi was the one who started communalising the politics with his support for Khilafat movement and laid the seed for pseudosecularism in India.


As for Subhash, his thoughts were benevolent but his actions like aligning with Japan was not a prudent one as he did not realise Japan were far worse imperialists than British were.

I would say Sardar Patel and Anne Besant were better leaders anyday.

Sardar Patel was pragmatic hawk, not aware much about political affiliations of Anne Besant
 
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That's actually a bit like saying "IF"......., no end to that. No one stopped anyone else from winning independence by other means, it's just that they always came up short. Almost all such comments end up suggesting that Gandhi should have supported "X" or "Y", acknowledging Gandhi's popularity when compared with anyone else. Not Gandhi's fault that he was by far the most popular & influential. Gandhi did it his way and I for one, hold him in tremendous respect.

Gandhi called off an entire movement coz of small violence taking place..A person in his place having that power..that command on people should be more mature and less childish.
 
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I am sure you have gone crazy, Don't you think your suggestion lead to disaster??? Before Subhash Rana and Shivajee these GENTELMEN will come on Indian currency...

1. The great Son of India, who has money in Swiss bank . Who is declared Bharat ratna before Subhash C Bose... He will come on 1000 rs note.
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2. 500 rupees note will be reserved for Indira and Jawahar .
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3. 100 Rupees Note will be reserved for Muslim Vote Bank, as they are 30% in India and vote in bulk, there participation will be mandatory. Hence there is no freedom fighter from Muslim religion (Except Abul kalam and Asfaq-ullah-Khan), 100 rupees note will have these ppl photos .

4. 50 Rupees Note will be given to Illegal Bangladeshi, So some Bangladeshi Jamati's photo will be there.. Jokes apart, 50 Rupees Note will have picture of Prativa Devi singh Patil, the first women (Cook, maid ) President of India..

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5. 20 rupees note will be reserved for ST/SC, let me think . Baba sahab Ambedkar photo suits here...
6. 10 rupees will have Man-Mohan singh photo






So do you think , your idea is good??? Let the currency note as it is, else Kongress will f%^k it. By the way there are some way to pay gratitude to these real heros...

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Do you really think that you are worthy of passing such a comment on a man who did far more than you or I will ever do?

yes mate, i agree we are no one, we haven't done even an iota of what he has done, but what will u say about his role in the hanging of Bhaghat Singh (was he afraid of Bhaghat's growing popularity).
 
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Sardar Patel was pragmatic hawk, not aware much about political affiliations of Anne Besant

Anne Besant was the first leader in India to call for change of governments through the Home rule movement along with Tilak. So she was the first one to call for India's independence and had to undergo prison terms for that. She had much broader vision than any leaders India had prior to her Indepedence.

As for Sardar, everyone knew he was a pragmatic hawk but he was also a very loyal trustworthy person who had differing views with Nehru and Gandhi but was not a rebel. And I would say it was a good quality of him but bad for India.
 
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Gandhi called off an entire movement coz of small violence taking place..A person in his place having that power..that command on people should be more mature and less childish.

Gandhi wasn't perfect by any means but he was miles ahead of everyone else. He did it in his own unique way but his legacy(along with Nehru's) is why we are a more tolerant, more open people.
 
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