Even a Horrific Murder Isn't Enough to Shake Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws

[SQ8]

Dear Sir,

Blaspheme laws already enforced Govt or Court ruling only, but there are people who some time planed or some time spontaneously took they laws in their own hand but now things are changing rapidly especially after Qadri....There is clear cut message to all law enforcing authorities that there should be no distinction of killing either he or she done Blaspheme or not he / mod would be handed over severe punishment for murder.
Further there is no need to change the Blaspheme laws just we need to fully impose them since the same laws deal with false accusation also but unfortunately we go soft on false accusation that attitude must be change.
Since 1947 to 1979 there are huge riots and over 500 killings over blaspheme since there were no laws to deal with but after law came to existence since then these killing reduced by 99% by all means.

Further over 20 Muslims countries have similar laws to deal with blaspheme cases then why should we / Pakistan only abandon this just because of a killing of one student over some issue.

Because our population is immature and ignorant.

The problem with Pakistan's blasphemy law is that during Zia's era from 'sentence' to 'death' was verified in such short space of time. Prior to that there were less incidents, since this change many have taken advantage of it to bully or scare people or settle personal scores. The sad part of it is in all this 'Faith & Country' get portrayed wrongly.

The other thing is this law has taken Pakistani society backwards instead of forward and has given them wrong level of confidence thus increasing extremism. Pakistan shouldn't make a massive 'haye mein Margaye' or act like they won't be able to survive because they've lived the period with the original law. To change it back is nothing new or taboo to the people of Pakistan. But the fact that it's given the wrong message and adapted a wrong mentality - to break out of it is now difficult and that is the challenging bit.

Zai ul haq was the worst thing to happen to Pakistan. We should have had thrice the humiliation of 1971 and it would still be better than what he and his mullah cohorts did to the nation.

 

[Divergent]

Because our population is immature and ignorant.

Zai ul haq was the worst thing to happen to Pakistan. We should have had thrice the humiliation of 1971 and it would still be better than what he and his mullah cohorts did to the nation.

I've done so much digging on this whole Blasphemy law and since section 295-C (sentence to death conversion) was put in place, I promise, there's been more dark and sinister cases that make you sick. As a person of Belief (irrespective of how flawed I am which are my own personal short comings). I don't sit comfortable with it.

Pakistan isn't the only Country to have Blasphemy Laws, Denmark recently opened up theirs. But it has the most severe and unreasonable sentence in place justified by calling it an 'Islamic Law' - when it isn't.

The Scholars then were so progressive and free thinkers, they took science, physics, invention forward. Now it's a case of high BP, stomache out sugar loaded diabetics losing it on Mics and going into every little trivial matter.

Then there was an adaptive thought of 'dislike the sin - not the sinner' and now it's 'soti danda' wailers.

 

[SQ8]

I've done so much digging on this whole Blasphemy law and since section 295-C (sentence to death conversion) was put in place, I promise, there's been more dark and sinister cases that make you sick. As a person of Belief (irrespective of how flawed I am which are my own personal short comings). I don't sit comfortable with it.

Pakistan isn't the only Country to have Blasphemy Laws, Denmark recently opened up theirs. But it has the most severe and unreasonable sentence in place justified by calling it an 'Islamic Law' - when it isn't.

The Scholars then were so progressive and free thinkers, they took science, physics, invention forward. Now it's a case of high BP, stomache out sugar loaded diabetics losing it on Mics and going into every little trivial matter.

Then there was an adaptive thought of 'dislike the sin - not the sinner' and now it's 'soti danda' wailers.

All laws can be exploited in a society where they are not implemented in spirit or with justice.

As such as the proof or procedure for the laws become as relevant as your selfies

 

[Divergent]

All laws can be exploited in a society where they are not implemented in spirit or with justice.

As such as the proof or procedure for the laws become as relevant as your selfies

All laws can be exploited yes, but the problem with this law, especially with 295-C is warrants death and gives an ego massage to extremists under the name of Faith. They need to revise the law and do an add on IF anyone is falsely accused they will meet severe consequences and deters any false accusations.

At the same time The State hasn't activated 295-C because deep down they know it's not compatible with the Law of Faith nor Country. It's just a 'sat on the shelf' law to shut people up because society isn't ready for removal yet. So they're just dodging it.

Personally I don't even think that the bloggers case is going to qualify a capital sentence because it's not a capital offence, unless they commit treason or linked to terrorism etc.

Lmao see what you did there mate. My selfies have no correlation but hey ho tie it in because aur koi kaam nahi except the usual indirect digs

 

[YeBeWarned]

Zai ul haq was the worst thing to happen to Pakistan. We should have had thrice the humiliation of 1971 and it would still be better than what he and his mullah cohorts did to the nation.

You know what irony is, that the ZIA these Mullah minded people worship as some demi God , was actually scared to even go to bathroom after ISI Officer(major Amir) tell him that there is a plan for his assassination ..so much for a mard-e-momin

 

[SQ8]

All laws can be exploited yes, but the problem with this law, especially with 295-C is warrants death and gives an ego massage to extremists under the name of Faith. They need to revise the law and do an add on IF anyone is falsely accused they will meet severe consequences and deters any false accusations.

At the same time The State hasn't activated 295-C because deep down they know it's not compatible with the Law of Faith nor Country. It's just a 'sat on the shelf' law to shut people up because society isn't ready for removal yet. So they're just dodging it.

Personally I don't even think that the bloggers case is going to qualify a capital sentence because it's not a capital offence, unless they commit treason or linked to terrorism etc.

Lmao see what you did there mate. My selfies have no correlation but hey ho tie it in because aur koi kaam nahi except the usual indirect digs

Hence the need for revision. However, until there is a genocidal cleansing of extemism from society and an additional expelling of all these embassy paid liberals - Pakistan is going to eat itself apart eventually. No amount of CPEC will change that.

And it is quite relevant in its correlated irrelevance to the relavancy of how important procedures are

You know what irony is, that the ZIA these Mullah minded people worship as some demi God , was actually scared to even go to bathroom after ISI Officer(major Amir) tell him that there is a plan for his assassination ..so much for a mard-e-momin

As this thread is not about that hypocrite, I will refrain from any further comment beside referring to countless testimonies of retired military men regarding the corruption he introduced in procurement and merit

 

[YeBeWarned]

As this thread is not about that hypocrite, I will refrain from any further comment beside referring to countless testimonies of retired military men regarding the corruption he introduced in procurement and merit

Sure, but do look at this interview if you haven't already ..

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

The only 'problem' you have is the inability to counter their arguments rationally. Pakistan obviously has a problem with 'Mob Justice' - we have had multiple mob lynchings of Ahmadis and people accused of blasphemy. Just because an Indian brings up these issues doesn't make the problem magically non-existent.

Instead of getting upset at the Indians for pointing out very real and very critical problems in Pakistani society and laws, participate in civil and constructive debate to address these issues in Pakistan.

Well we will deal with it Ahmadi is not even 1% of population but their voices echos like they been superseded in internationally compare to what's it's happening in india it dent seems rationally when indian talks about minorities. In Pakistani society minorities are way safer than what's happening in india. U count how many people just died in month of April cuz of allegations on them of slaughting cow or they assume of victim is eating it's meat. Indian on PDF might be in comma who fail to see how mob have been wandering on streets in groups shouting slogans of Jay siaram.
So it better to talk constructive instead of crying for minority rights of Pakistan.

 

[The Sandman]

You know what irony is, that the ZIA these Mullah minded people worship as some demi God , was actually scared to even go to bathroom after ISI Officer(major Amir) tell him that there is a plan for his assassination ..so much for a mard-e-momin

I call him Allah ka azab on Pakistan. and thanks for the vid def gonna watch it

 

[YeBeWarned]

I call him Allah ka azab on Pakistan. and thanks for the vid def gonna watch it

Do notice about what he said about Gen Zaheer in the end of interview .. this one sentence is making me rush my brain horse hahaha

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Ok you've made that clear. Regardless pointing at what someone else is doing doesn't hide what they have highlighted. It's certainly not an opportunity to start point scoring using religion.

When u call Ummah and I am sure u know what u said then it gives muslims right to raise voice for another muslim I am not intrested what's happening in india with anyone cuz it doesn't bother any Pakistani till they hurt Ummah.
Some muslims might not be able to stand up against atrocities happening with muslims in anywhere but we raise these issues for them have any muslim is concerned what's happening to kashmiries not at all but they are here along with majority to raise issue with blasphemy law in Pak.
What happened with people who got killed in the name of blasphemy is wrong but again before u are concern about Pakistan. Look around u what's happening in India. The extremism is india is so high that it reached it to actors and singer that they don't even tolerate Azan anymore.

 

[Divergent]

Hence the need for revision. However, until there is a genocidal cleansing of extemism from society and an additional expelling of all these embassy paid liberals - Pakistan is going to eat itself apart eventually. No amount of CPEC will change that.

And it is quite relevant in its correlated irrelevance to the relavancy of how important procedures are


As this thread is not about that hypocrite, I will refrain from any further comment beside referring to countless testimonies of retired military men regarding the corruption he introduced in procurement and merit

I didn't know my selfies made that much political impact lol

 

[SQ8]

I didn't know my selfies made that much political impact lol

They don't, just like procedure in blasphemy laws.

 

[Divergent]

They don't, just like procedure in blasphemy laws.

You'll always have something to say

They don't, just like procedure in blasphemy laws.

What do you mean by embassays paying liberals btw?

Leave my selfies alone lol