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European giants side with UK in Chinese World Bank row with US

Bush pushed US to the hole and ran out US's money...
Obama can make it right but he make it worst. :lol:

His pivotal to Asia is a disaster and brings no benefit to US. This move is clearly another failure.m

You see the British keep themselves out of the pivotal to Asia startegy by US while engaging more with China in commercial. Result? Best peforming Europe powerhouse besides Germany.

CCP heavily encourage Chinese businessman to invest in UK. UK never going to face depression unlike many Europe countries.
 
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Obama can make it right but he make it worst. :lol:

His pivotal to Asia is a disaster and brings no benefit to US. This move is clearly another failure.m

You see the British keep themselves out of the pivotal to Asia startegy by US while engaging more with China in commercial. Result? Best peforming Europe powerhouse besides Germany.

CCP heavily encourage Chinese businessman to invest in UK. UK never going to face depression unlike many Europe countries.
Well Obama is stepping out...we should consider who will be the next US header. McCain? The old fox seems rather hostile to China.
 
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With the USD keeps appreciating, China can sell out a lot of US bonds.

Not a bad deal overall.

Central banks sell US dollars to buy own currencies | Money | Malay Mail Online

NEW YORK, March 13 — Central banks are selling Treasuries at a time when almost everyone else is piling into them.

Monetary authorities outside the US cut their Treasuries held in custody at the Federal Reserve for a second week to the lowest level in almost a year. China and Russia may be selling their holdings of US debt to raise money that they then use to purchase their currencies, said Hiroki Shimazu, the senior market economist in Tokyo at SMBC Nikko Securities Inc.

“Developing countries face weaker currencies,” Shimazu said. Some of those nations “have to sell US dollars to buy their currencies,” he said.

Benchmark 10-year yields were little changed at 2.12 per cent as of 11.11am in Tokyo. The price of the 2 per cent note maturing in February 2025 was 98 30/32.

Foreign central banks, which are among the biggest buyers of US government bonds, cut their stakes held at the Fed to US$2.92 trillion (RM10.79 trillion), based on data from the US central bank yesterday in New York. It was the lowest since March 26, 2014.

Treasuries have been rallying as investors seek higher yields than they can get in Europe or Japan. Ten-year notes yield 0.25 per cent in Germany and 0.39 per cent in Japan. — Bloomberg

This is all on Obama, he is one of the worst US presidents in a long time. His administration has been involved in one scandal after the other. Secret emails, Bengazi, Obama care and the corrupt backdoor deal with Obamas wife's friend, world wide sponsorships for government overthrows, starting race wars, by-passing congress, government shutdowns, ect.

The aggressive actions against Russia and China does not help win over friends. More countries are dumping the dollar and moving to alternative banks.

Shhh, Obama has been a blessing, a great visionary leader with a halo over his head. China and Russia hope Obama will have a third term because of his outstanding performance. LOL.

That is why the Japanese has restated its position of not joining AIIB (with a mouthful of sourgrapes) and Germany France Italy all joining at the 11th hour

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US losing by pressuring nations not to join Asia bank
Updated: 2015-03-16 06:03

By Chen Weihua(China Daily USA)

For months, the Obama administration has been putting pressure on its allies, such as Australia, Japan and South Korea, not to join the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), which Washington sees as a potential rival to the World Bank and Asian Development Bank, which are dominated largely by the United States, Japan and other developed nations.

While senior US officials defend the action by citing concerns over the transparency and governance of the new institution, such arguments have garnered little support. Many opinion leaders in the US, such as former US ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, have criticized the White House move as unwise.

However, the Obama administration is clearly not listening. On Friday, the Financial Times of London reported that a senior US official said on Thursday that the United Kingdom decision to join the AIIB was taken after "virtually no consultation with the US" and warned of the UK's "trend toward constant accommodation of China, which is not the best way to engage a rising power".

The FT said British officials refuted the US claims by saying that it was discussed for many weeks at the G7 level.

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UK Chancellor George Osborne, in a statement announcing the UK's intention to join the bank, also said that joining the AIIB at the founding stage would create "an unrivalled opportunity for the UK and Asia to invest and grow together".

On Friday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said that China welcomes the UK decision. He noted that on March 12, the UK submitted to China the confirmation letter of joining the AIIB as a prospective member and officially applied to participate in the AIIB.

Reiterating what some Chinese officials have said publicly but which was ignored by Washington, Hong said AIIB will design its governance structure and operation policy following the principles of openness, inclusiveness, transparency, responsibility and fairness.

"It will learn from the good practices of the existing multilateral development banks, and meanwhile avoid the problems they have encountered to reduce the cost and operate more effectively," he said.

Hong said the AIIB will cooperate with and complement the existing multilateral development banks, better serve its member states and support the infrastructure building and economic development in Asia.

"Everyone is welcome to join us in this undertaking which is beneficial to all," Hong said.

According to Hong, as chairman of the chief negotiators' meeting on the establishment of the AIIB, China is heeding opinions from the prospective members in according with multilateral procedures. "If everything goes well, the UK will officially become a prospective member of the AIIB at the end of March," he said.

In Tokyo on Friday, World Bank President Jim Yong Kim reiterated his support for AIIB after UK's application.

"From the perspective simply of the need for more infrastructure spending, there's no doubt that from our perspective, we welcome the entry of the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank," he said.


ADB President Takehiko Nakao has said that there were "huge infrastructure financial needs" in Asia and that the establishment of the AIIB is an understandable step. He said that when AIIB is established, ADB will be willing to consider appropriate collaboration."

On Sunday, Reuters quoted Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott as saying that a decision will be made within weeks on whether the country will seek to join the AIIB.

The Yonhap News Agency of South Korea on Friday quoted an unnamed government official as saying that South Korea will make a final decision later this month on whether to join the AIIB as a founding member, and will inform China of the result.

China's Finance Minister Lou Jiwei told reporters a week ago that the Japanese government has been updated with the result of talks among the bank's current founding members.

"They told us they are considering," Lou was quoted by Xinhua News Agency. "Whether Japan will join, we do not know. It's Japan's own decision."

China's Vice-Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao has said that the bank will be set up this year.

On Oct 24, 21 countries signed a bill in Beijing to formally recognize the establishment of the bank, first initiated by China in 2013. They include China, India, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, the Philippines, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, Cambodia, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Laos, Myanmar, Mongolia, Nepal, Oman, Qatar, Sri Lanka, Uzbekistan and Vietnam.

Several other countries, such as Indonesia, have since applied. If the UK is included, there will be 28 founding members for the AIIB. And more is likely before the March 31 deadline.

While the US has said repeatedly that countries do not have to choose between China and the US, its pressure on its allies on the AIIB issue has made many question its true intention. In China, many have seen this as more proof of US intention to curtail the rise of China.

Contact the writer at chenweihua@chinadailyusa.com

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Historical stuff happening right before our eyes. I guess China haters will have hard these days. 2015 will be a year when China's international standing and institutional power is to be greatly reinforced.

Obama is simply a joke. :lol:

I think for China, he is a sweet joke that one wants to hear over and over.

But, jokes aside, I also wonder, what change it will make when we have a ultra-nationalist republican administration some two years from now? It is a systemic decline and does not have too much to do with Mr. Obama.

Well Obama is stepping out...we should consider who will be the next US header. McCain? The old fox seems rather hostile to China.

I do not think so. McCain has become too friendly with Ukraine's Nazis and Syria's ISIS and Jabhat al Nusra. He would be a liability. But I support his presidency.

I guess GOP will have some surprise, populist candidate like Obama once was.
 
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Why Britain Joining China-Led Bank Is a Sign of American Decline | Kishore Mahbubani

Why Britain Joining China-Led Bank Is a Sign of American Decline

Posted: 03/16/2015 4:18 pm EDT Updated: 03/16/2015 4:59 pm EDT


SINGAPORE -- Some events are epochal. The decision by Great Britain to join the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank was one such event. It may have heralded the end of the American century and the arrival of the Asian century.

A clue to the epochal significance of this event came from a senior U.S. government official interviewed by the Financial Times. His sharp words were very telling: "We are wary about a trend toward constant accommodation of China, which is not the best way to engage a rising power." No ally has been as faithful to the U.S. as the British. Only they would follow the United States into the Iraqi quagmire -- and that was only 12 years ago.

Today, that same ally has decided that history has turned a corner. The U.S. can no longer dominate world history. A new power has also arrived. The British, like most other middle powers, have decided to hedge their bets and work with China as well as the U.S. But this is also a matter of survival. If London does not serve the financial and economic interests of a rising China, it could become sidelined in the 21st century. Hence, the British have no choice but to work with China.

The petulant White House reaction was predictable. Sadly, it was also unwise. Any objective and calm assessment of the Chinese decision to launch the AIIB would show that this is a bank whose time has come. The Asian Development Bank has estimated that Asia needs to spend at least $8 trillion in infrastructure investment. The American-dominated World Bank and related institutions cannot possibly fulfill this demand. China's decision to use its reserves to boost Asian infrastructure investment was clearly welcomed in Asia. Given its spectacular success with developing world-class infrastructure in record time, China has a lot of expertise in this area. Asia needs this.

Until the British joined the AIIB, America had been publicly denying that it was discouraging countries from joining the new bank, even though it was well known that America was doing so. Australia and South Korea held back from joining the AIIB because of direct calls from Washington. Now that the British have joined, there is no reason for them to hold back any longer. America should wisely accept their decision.

Publicly, America said that it could not support the AIIB because it could only support an institution with high standards of governance. If America truly wants these high standards of governance, it should welcome the British decision to join. The British can and should lobby for the position of vice president of corporate governance at AIIB. If high British standards of the rule of law and corporate governance are embedded in the AIIB, the bank could provide a role model of a new kind of international institution.

Sadly, the American-dominated World Bank cannot serve as a model for the AIIB. It is now well known that the World Bank has served as an instrument of American foreign policy. Joe Stiglitz has documented how the World Bank punished Ethiopia just for doing the right thing and forced it to pay high-interest private loans to American banks in full. If the U.S. wants high standards of governance in the AIIB, it should serve as a role model and agree to relinquish control of the World Bank. It should also allow true meritocratic governance, instead of insisting that only an American can run the World Bank.

At the end of the day, this new competition between America and China to produce better multilateral institutions will be good for the world. This will be a race to the top in corporate governance, and not a race to the bottom. It does not matter whether America wins or China wins. Either way, we will see an improvement in the standards of managing institutions of global governance. In the process, the Asian people will be better off. And the Asian century will arrive faster.
 
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This is all on Obama, he is one of the worst US presidents in a long time. His administration has been involved in one scandal after the other. Secret emails, Bengazi, Obama care and the corrupt backdoor deal with Obamas wife's friend, world wide sponsorships for government overthrows, starting race wars, by-passing congress, government shutdowns, ect.

The aggressive actions against Russia and China does not help win over friends. More countries are dumping the dollar and moving to alternative banks.


Who are u to decide if he's the worst president in US history?

While I don't agree everywhere with Obama, but he has done many good deeds.
  • Obama care is on of them, in here he takes the power away from insurance and pharmaceutical companies and give it back to people.
  • He doesn't take US to war against Iran, while there was immense pressure on him by Republicans and Israel.
  • Doesn't invade Syria.
  • Unemployment rate down to 5% from 15% when Bush was in office.
  • Its the republicans that have been holding him back.
 
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LOL,So many ppl blame Obama for being too weak, what else people expect him to do? even if those hard-line warmongers like Hillary or McCain become the president, so what? are they going to bomb Iran? invade Russia? or go to war with China?
 
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LOL,So many ppl blame Obama for being too weak, what else people expect him to do? even if those hard-line warmongers like Hillary or McCain become the president, so what? are they going to bomb Iran? invade Russia? or go to war with China?
Like some of our citizens who are criticizing our leader: "Coward! Dare to nuke Myanmar?! Wipe it out from the map! Don't let us look down upon you!"
 
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Who are u to decide if he's the worst president in US history?


I'm a person that uses logic and common sense. Who are you to tell me he is not?



While I don't agree everywhere with Obama, but he has done many good deeds.
  • Obama care is on of them, in here he takes the power away from insurance and pharmaceutical companies and give it back to people.



And you must be one of those people who believe Obama care is free.





  • He doesn't take US to war against Iran, while there was immense pressure on him by Republicans and Israel.





Only because it would be another Iraq. Obama has done his share of bombings and overthrows.






  • Doesn't invade Syria.




Because of pressure from Russia and China.




  • Unemployment rate down to 5% from 15% when Bush was in office.



When bush held office the unemployment rate was 4.20% his first year of office and 7.80% when he left office in 2009. 7.80% was the highest unemployment rate under Bush and it was during the 2009 world economic meltdown. Under Obama unemployment went as high as 9.80%.



  • Its the republicans that have been holding him back.



Of course nothing is Obama's fault, he just blames everything on others.
 
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If trend goes on like this, Britain would have more influence in China than USA. I simply don't understand US foreign policy anymore. Everything is pure disaster for the last 5 years. No success what-so-ever.

US decision makers relied on the fact that they are the only ruler of the world very much and they are overplaying their hand. US needs a more down to Earth approach.

Back in the era of Cold War European nations were ideologically backing up USA. Because USSR was trying to export it's regime. However In China'a case there is no such thing. Actually let alone the regime, China doesn't even seem to care what's going on in other countries. Always decline to comment about other nations' internal affairs.

There is no argument that can make Europe afraid of cooperation with China. It won't be like cold war.
 
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"ptldM3, post: 6912384, member: 21454"]I'm a person that uses logic and common sense. Who are you to tell me he is not?

I think ur common sense went grass gazing






And you must be one of those people who believe Obama care is free.

Most working americans gained.













Only because it would be another Iraq. Obama has done his share of bombings and overthrows.

What happened with iraq ( no mass weapon) or afghanistan?











Because of pressure from Russia and China.

:o:








When bush held office the unemployment rate was 4.20% his first year of office and 7.80% when he left office in 2009. 7.80% was the highest unemployment rate under Bush and it was during the 2009 world economic meltdown. Under Obama unemployment went as high as 9.80%.

Check ur figures???







Of course nothing is Obama's fault, he just blames everything on others


like i said " i DO NOT agree with Obama everywhere'.
 
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Btw, How many percent will China share in this bank?
 
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LOL,So many ppl blame Obama for being too weak, what else people expect him to do? even if those hard-line warmongers like Hillary or McCain become the president, so what? are they going to bomb Iran? invade Russia? or go to war with China?
He could have stop the stupid intervention of Libya that bred ISIS and throw region into turmoil.

His pivotal to Asian brings nothing good and instead he shall work more with China in commerce. US support of FSA is another massive failure that boast ISIS growth.

Bush start war but at least he is not dumb to damage the commerce interest of US.
 
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He could have stop the stupid intervention of Libya that bred ISIS and throw region into turmoil.

His pivotal to Asian brings nothing good and instead he shall work more with China in commerce. US support of FSA is another massive failure that boast ISIS growth.

Bush start war but at least he is not dumb to damage the commerce interest of US.

Don't worry. Next president would be Republican
 
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