ET: Muslim men forcefully convert non-muslim women to satisfy 'sexual lust'

[Karachiite]

Disgusting scumbags.

 

[p4kistan]

Get it into your thick skulls you can't convert someone to Islam by force.

Secondly if the girls have indeed been abducted/kidnapped etc then the force of the law should be thrown at them. With the girl out of the hand of the abductor she can clarify any issues.

99.9% of Pakistanis will frown upon a hindu revert marrying a muslim.

 

[EastWest]

even DAWN news also has reports on Hindu women being forcefully converted...i ll post this afterwards..DAWN link is not working..

 

[Kaniska]

This is non of Islam, Islam forbids forcing others to convert.

Dude...i think you are still sleeping wake up and face the truth...Sometime truth is not exactly what you are being taught...

 

[foxbat]

thats because nobody pays indian media to make fuss out of cross religion love affairs and marriages....I personally know a muslim guy from india who regularly went to mandir and ate pork because his hindu girl friend asked him to do so....

You know Shahrukh Khan??

Disgusting scumbags.

How simple is it calling a spade a spade.. Thanks buddy for doing that..

Even in a black and white case like this, we tend to bring in India-Pak nonsense...

 

[haviZsultan]

Actually.. the minister may be right in a half baked way..
Anyone remember Khuda ke liye?
The question of using religion to hide carnal desires is an old one..
English lords would forcefully abduct young girls and rape them.. in order to "bless" them from their divine bloodline(yeah..braveheart was not off there).
These bearded men of hypocritical faith are not to be trusted.
They will misuse religion to satisfy their needs... be it for meals, sexual deserves or financial gain.
And it is not limited to Pakistan as much as that would satisfy certain posters from India and their egoistic and cynical intentions.
It is however.. a menace that is now being vociferously documented in this country..thanks to a ratings hungry media(a good thing in this case)

Acts like these need to be stopped forcefully. Quaid E Azam ordered us to protect our minorities specifically. The media has a role and it should point out such cases. These things... such as the conversion of Rinkle Kumari must be stopped. Only today I was listening to program on Samaa about the kidnappings of minorities in Pakistan and how they feel there is great bias against them.

We were once minorities in India. We cannot do the same to our own minorities what they did to us and forced us to get independence.

And about the sexual bit... my Christian friend in the PNA said the same thing. Some people view Christians and Hindu Pakistanis as objects of desire... they are more likely to hit on a Christian girl or Hindu girl because she is less likely to be bound by religious constraints. She always complained about it.

Unlike India or other states.. where such cases are drowned out in the masses.

I think I tend to agree with you. I will report some personal incidents... Naseem Sheikh was killed right in front of the Andhra Pradesh high court by Hindutvadi mobs. He was among six other people burned in front of the court building in Hyderabad. Still there has been no justice. Much less justice. The police often does not register cases. People went to register cases but some were jailed. Others went to the courts... the courts went even further.... told to go to Pakistan as they weren't loyal to India.

Then theres the land forcibly occupied by RSS thugs. We owned Hyderabad... we lived there for generations yet these people are taking our land and calling it theirs! When we go to the police to register cases about illegal takeovers of land they tell us to go to Pakistan...

No wonder we moved!

Cases of bias against minorities in India are not even reaching the media, no they aren't even reaching the courts or the police. Truly.

 

[foxbat]

Acts like these need to be stopped forcefully. Quaid E Azam ordered us to protect our minorities specifically. The media has a role and it should point out such cases. These things... such as the conversion of Rinkle Kumari must be stopped. Only today I was listening to program on Samaa about the kidnappings of minorities in Pakistan and how they feel there is great bias against them.

We were once minorities in India. We cannot do the same to our own minorities what they did to us and forced us to get independence.

And about the sexual bit... my Christian friend in the PNA said the same thing. Some people view Christians and Hindu Pakistanis as objects of desire... they are more likely to hit on a Christian girl or Hindu girl because she is less likely to be bound by religious constraints. She always complained about it.



I think I tend to agree with you. I will report some personal incidents... Naseem Sheikh was killed right in front of the Andhra Pradesh high court by Hindutvadi mobs. He was among six other people burned in front of the court building in Hyderabad. Still there has been no justice. Much less justice. The police often does not register cases.

Then theres the land forcibly occupied by RSS thugs. We owned Hyderabad... we lived there for generations yet these people are taking our land and calling it theirs! When we go to the police to register cases about illegal takeovers of land they tell us to go to Pakistan...

No wonder we moved!

Cases of bias against minorities in India are not even reaching the media, no they aren't even reaching the courts or the police. Truly.

It seems its too hard for a Pakistani to condemn an evil doing within Pakistan without seeking solace and reassuring himself that worse things happen in the evil Yindoostan and hence they are better off

 

[jbond197]

Can Pakistanis seriously deny that there are no kidnappings and forceful conversion of Hindu girls happening in Pakistan?

Disgusting to see people defending Ministers action and making statements that media might have misunderstood him..

 

[Emmie]

Dude...i think you are still sleeping wake up and face the truth...Sometime truth is not exactly what you are being taught...

Could you enlighten me with the truth? Please keep you malice inside you, don't lure others..

 

[Safriz]

Where you got this bullshit, because I know Muslims who don't even prefer eating Jhatka Mutton with us, forget eating pork, (by the way Hindus rarely eat Pork particularly in North India we mostly prefer Chicken, fish, Mutton), you went far ahead in your exaggeration.

nop i didnt go far in my exageration......
if you are unaware of something it doesnt mean.its not happening...

its common among young couples who fall in hollywood/bollywood inspired love to ask eavh other of doing things which they know are not a norm for the other person...
They take it as a "proof" of love.

its another thing that any bad thing happeninv in any virner of pakistan is exagerated on purpose and manipulated to look bad even if it isnt bad...
Most conversions in pakistan are consensual...and people convert because they want to.....but since hinfus are generally narrow minded..they go ballistic on one of them converting to.islam..and cant accept it..snd come up withall sortd of baseless accusations.

 

[jbond197]

This is non of Islam, Islam forbids forcing others to convert.

Tell that to poor hindu girls being kidnapped and forced to convert. I am sorry it's hard for me to say but I think its better for the poor girls to end their lives than to live a life of dishonor as they got no way to get justice among barbarians.. They go to courts only to be slapped in front of judge and forced to say what mullahs wanted them to say.. Even when the girl leaves the courtroom she will be encircled by an army of mullah supporter pulled, pushed in all directions.. This is happening even when the presence of girl in company of strangers is considered illicit in Islam..

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir, its the other way round as it seems to me. Forceful abduction.. Rape followed by conversion and marriage to get away with the crime..

Didnt expect unnecessary personal attacks from a Mod {kidding.. actually am used to it }

sorry didnt mean to trivialize the grave issue.

again I must insist that a rapist wont go that much in trouble to convert someone he has had to satisfy his animal needs. normally such women (whatever the faith) are discarded and they and their parents hide in shame for the rest of the life
I know it that this happens in Pakistan I know you wont admit that India has the same issue but I wont press you on this.

what you are mentioning in the quotes as no legal standing and is disowned in all schools of Islam. because we have a saying

Uzr e Gunha budter az gunah ( excuse for a sin is worse than the sin itself) so we have a rape at hand and then a forced conversion. now this has nore to do with tribal justice than Islam.

throughout centuries, women of this region and beyond have been used as a bribe or an object to settle tribal disputes before Islam reached here.

in the end please be clear that no personal attack was meant towards you. because the report says women are converted to make the sexual assault easy and you said nonMuslims are easy target (being weak) both statements maybe true in their right but are mutually exclusive and negate each other.

hope you got the gist now? if not then dont worry about it

 

[Vinod2070]

offensive quote removed.

You need the same treatment here as well.

Mods: Is it OK if one replies in the same tone? Hope you won't take offense for a lighthearted retort.

 

[Safriz]

Tell that to poor hindu girls being kidnapped and forced to convert. I am sorry it's hard for me to say but I think its better for the poor girls to end their lives than to live a life of dishonor as they got no way to get justice among barbarians.. They go to courts only to be slapped in front of judge and forced to say what mullahs wanted them to say.. Even when the girl leaves the courtroom she will be encircled by an army of mullah supporter pulled, pushed in all directions.. This is happening even when the presence of girl in company of strangers is considered illicit in Islam..

are you on about the "poor hindu" girl who appeared on media and said she converted to islam out of her own will?
that must have been a slap on the faces of the likes of yours

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I was talking about disapproval from parents/relatives and no political support for such couples.

cant agree more

but religion has no play here

Kali and karokari have no place in Islam but both men and women are routinely killed in tribal justice in Baluchistan and Sindh.
look up these terms and you will know more and their roots.

the names maybe different but they have their Indian versions too.