ERDOGAN's new modern Turkiye 2002-2023

[Foinikas]

Turkey a regional superpower by 2030

a global superpower by 2040 Inshallah

more development in last 20 Years than previous 100 years

Thanks Erdogan

Galactic Empire by 2100.

 

[dBSPL]

Despite all these correct determinations, it is sad that you stand with the Eurasianists.

Eurasianists have nothing to offer our country.

Atlanticists have freedom, economy, democracy and prosperity.

The Atlantic (I mean US) has nothing to offer this country, unless you give up your national interests. Above all, hoping for help from these structures means that a Turk is disrespectful to his own history and cannot learn any lessons from past tragedies and fatal mistakes.

And, no, I'm not a Eurasianist. I am not an Atlanticist either. **** them both. I am in favour of a complete overthrow of the current equilibrium and the unification of nationalist elements in all segments to build their own power. I try not to think in the shadow of the daily political disputes centred on party X or party Y. I care about the thresholds that my country must reach in the next decades, and for today, just I am interested in how the current conjuncture can be properly instrumentalised. In many respects, I see this elections as the last patient stone before we get out of this bind. What we are watching now is the confrontation between the AKP of 2002-2013 and the todays AKP.

Dont forget that, In 2002-03* (RTE entered parliament on March 2003 with the renewal elections held in Siirt), when the US intervened in the politics of the country and all parties were pushed out of the parliament, the new parliament structure was made up of 2 parties. Akp and Chp. So while Akp was on one side of this story, Chp was always on the other side of the coin. Chp is one of the biggest reasons why Akp maintains its power despite all its major mistakes. Today, it wants to take a step forward and swap roles with Akp. (But even that is doubtful, because even in an election in which they would have been the heavy favorite, managed the process incredibly badly and failed to prevent the two alliances from going head-to-head in the final stretch.) But it has no intention of changing the game, you can see that just by looking at the lists of MPs, let alone all the stupid statements and promises. Now, if you think that they will spoil the game set up in early 2000s, I wish you good luck.

 

[ThunderCat]

Pakistan had the potential to become just as developed, but unfortunately we're cursed with the worst criminal rulers in the world, both military and civilian.

We are cursed with overpopulation, thanks to our extremely fertile climate. Do you think Turkey would prosper with such a huge population? Nope.

 

[Tamerlane]

We are cursed with overpopulation, thanks to our extremely fertile climate. Do you think Turkey would prosper with such a huge population? Nope.

High population growth is a result of illiteracy and poverty. When women get educated birth rates falls dramatically. For example, Iran's birth rate has fallen steeply in the last 30 years as their women became better educated than men.

So, the population explosion in Pakistan is also because of bad governance.

 

[ThunderCat]

High population growth is a result of illiteracy and poverty. When women get educated birth rates falls dramatically. For example, Iran's birth rate has fallen steeply in the last 30 years as their women became better educated than men.

So, the population explosion in Pakistan is also because of bad governance.

Yes in that sense it is, because the government is continuing agricultural expansion which only means more food consumption and only means more birthrates.

Iran has a somewhat less fertile climate. Not to mention their birthrates were disrupted by various wars which led to a demographic change.

It's the climatic conditions that the population of any given country is dependent on for growth. But in short, the population growth is not dependent on literacy but on food availability which in turn is dependent on the local climate.

 

[ThunderCat]

I used to think Turkey was similar to Greece. But now look. Turkey is at least 100 years ahead of Greece... You cannot expect Greece to do anything independently

How can they? They don't have the same amount of manpower or resources. Although they do seem to have a higher standard of living, thanks to their smaller population amongst other things.

 

[renhai]

How can they? They don't have the same amount of manpower or resources. Although they do seem to have a higher standard of living, thanks to their smaller population amongst other things.

I have a little doubt. How does Greece calculate its GDP? It hardly makes anything. even no IT industry. even no chemical industry. even no oil refining industry, no shipbuilding, aviation, automobile, electronics, machinery and other industries.

How does Greece achieve GDP? Relying solely on services (tourism)?

 

[MMM-E]

How can they? They don't have the same amount of manpower or resources. Although they do seem to have a higher standard of living, thanks to their smaller population amongst other things.

Austria and Israel have smaller population than Greece
but both Austria and Israel have 2x bigger GDP than Greece

Nobody attack on Greece and The EU gave hundreds of billions of Dollars to Greece


on the other hand Turkiye lost over $1 trillion to fight USA-EU backed PKK Terror organization since 1985

also USA backed military coups in 1960,1971,1980,1997,2016
and since 2013 Turkiye and Turkish economy under attack by USA ,FETO , etc



Human development Index led by ERDOGAN

Turkiye
in 2002 : 684 .. ( 86th in the world )
in 2022 : 838 .. ( 48th in the world )

Istanbul : 867
Southeast Anatolia Region : 762 ( because of PKK terrorism since 1985 )

List of Turkish regions by Human Development Index - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

HDI Index
Turkiye : 838
Russia : 829
Iran : 774
China : 768
Brazil :754
Egypt : 731
Indonesia : 705
India : 633
Pakistan : 544

Country Insights | Human Development Reports

hdr.undp.org

 

[nahtanbob]

I have a little doubt. How does Greece calculate its GDP? It hardly makes anything. even no IT industry. even no chemical industry. even no oil refining industry, no shipbuilding, aviation, automobile, electronics, machinery and other industries.

How does Greece achieve GDP? Relying solely on services (tourism)?

Greece gets 30+ million tourists (these are pre-Covid numbers)

 

[dBSPL]

Greece gets 30+ million tourists (these are pre-Covid numbers)

In Greece, Turks are the highest spending foreign tourists in Eastern Macedonia and Western Thrace, near the Turkish-Greek border. Especially the islands near the Turkish coast and the northern cities are popular destinations for Turkish tourists.

Other important sources of tourism for the North Aegean are Bulgarians and Romanians, who spend much less than Turks. As Balkan and Black Sea countries, our combined contribution to Greek tourism is around 5-7 million.

Unfortunately, Greece's economy has been heavily dependent on tourism and related service sectors due to years of flawed policies. (Although Greece is the largest beneficiary of EU development funds relative to its population, it has not been able to achieve its transformation. While there has been some EU-supported progress in transportation and energy infrastructure, Greece has also tended to lose its established industrial capabilities. )

To avoid any disruption to Aegean Tourism, which is vital for the people of Greece, a gentleman's agreement signed for not to conduct any exercises in the Aegean during the tourism season. If TR chooses to be a party to escalating tensions in the region, Greek Tourism will suffer billions of euros in losses.

 

[MMM-E]

Defense Industry led by ERDOGAN


We have reduced the foreign dependency in the defense industry from around 80% to some 20% in such a short time as 20 years.

The number of defense projects, which was merely 62 in 2002, has today surpassed 750

Türkiye's total budget for defense projects was $5.5 billion in 2002,
now it has reached a $75 billion project volume

Turkish army receives countrys locally-made new Altay tank

Turkish army is receiving the countrys locally-made new Altay tank on Sunday with the attendance of the President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

www.anews.com.tr

 

[MMM-E]

The first village houses delivered in the center of the earthquake area

Nurdagı - GAZIANTEP

Nurdağı'ndaki ilk kalıcı konutlar "akıllı köy" uygulamasıyla sahiplerine teslim edilecek

Gaziantep'in Nurdağı ilçesine bağlı Belpınar Mahallesi'nde depremzedeler için inşa edilen 14 ev, "akıllı köy" uygulamasıyla hak sahiplerine teslim edilecek.

www.trthaber.com

 

[Foinikas]

Other important sources of tourism for the North Aegean are Bulgarians and Romanians, who spend much less than Turks.

Russians used to be famous for being big spenders,but infamous when it comes to communication and attitude.
A lot of British tourists go to Crete,Rhodes and many of the other islands (where many get drunk and have fights) and from what my friends have told me,Romanians and Yugoslavs are usually cheapskates to a ridiculous degree. Probably not Croats and Slovenes though. Israelis usually go to Rhodes.

Greeks also visit Asia Minor towns and famous tourist destinations and of course daily shopping trips in Edirne.

 

[dBSPL]

Russians used to be famous for being big spenders,but infamous when it comes to communication and attitude.
A lot of British tourists go to Crete,Rhodes and many of the other islands (where many get drunk and have fights) and from what my friends have told me,Romanians and Yugoslavs are usually cheapskates to a ridiculous degree. Probably not Croats and Slovenes though. Israelis usually go to Rhodes.

Greeks also visit Asia Minor towns and famous tourist destinations and of course daily shopping trips in Edirne.

In my opinion, an for those who want to spend their holiday in a quieter way, the North Aegean have better tourism destinations with natural beauties and cultural heritage as spectacular as the South Aegean islands, and the tradesmen are much more friendly and smiling and do not try to rip off tourists, but their share in Greek tourism is still not large enough.

This situation is very similar in TR, where traditional tourism destinations are overcrowded during the tourist season and the nightlife is invaded by uncultured rude foreigners. Local and regional tourists who know the Aegean Sea well know much better where to go.

Regarding Greece, there has been an explosion in the number of tourists from TR, especially after the visa on gate agreement for tourists, this year around 1.5 million Turkish citizens too are expected to holiday in Greece in the summer season. Total expenditure is also expected to reach pre-covid level. In addition, in a report I read, Turkish tourists were the country group that left the most foreign currency in all of balkans to Greece. Bulgarians are the stingiest group, I think the last time it was around 40-45 dollars per person.

 

[Foinikas]

This situation is very similar in TR, where traditional tourism destinations are overcrowded during the tourist season and the nightlife is invaded by uncultured rude foreigners. Local and regional tourists who know the Aegean Sea well know much better where to go.

You said it. It's exactly that. I was going to say that most of the Western and Russian,Ukrainian tourists just go to the party places. Greeks,because of history and heritage usually go to Thrace,Marmara Sea,Cappadocia of course and some to Pontus as well.

Regarding Greece, there has been an explosion in the number of tourists from TR, especially after the visa on gate agreement for tourists, this year around 1.5 million Turkish citizens too are expected to holiday in Greece in the summer season. Total expenditure is also expected to reach pre-covid level. In addition, in a report I read, Turkish tourists were the country group that left the most foreign currency in all of balkans to Greece. Bulgarians are the stingiest group, I think the last time it was around 40-45 dollars per person.

Albania has also started to develop tourism the last few years. Slowly,but they have started getting foreign Western and even Greek tourists.