Enter the Vipers Pit

[araz]

This is Pakistani awam. They don't even hang the living Zardari/Altaf/etc scumbags. So I think the dead can rest easy.

The dead have a bigger museebaah at their hqnds. They will answer to Allah iza wa Jal and there will be no running away to EU, Dubai or Saudi. So I dojt think they are resting but may be roasting. Allaho Aalam.
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[Storm Force]

Easily the best plane in pak air power.

Paf will stay in fight against over four hundred too notch fighters like mki rafale mirage2000. And mig29K as long as your f16 are flying.

India will look to break the fleet of 73 falcons first .the Indians are fully aware take the f16 and the backbone of your air force is broken.

We will come after those falcons with everything we can muster

 

[Windjammer]

Easily the best plane in pak air power.

Paf will stay in fight against over four hundred too notch fighters like mki rafale mirage2000. And mig29K as long as your f16 are flying.

India will look to break the fleet of 73 falcons first .the Indians are fully aware take the f16 and the backbone of your air force is broken.

We will come after those falcons with everything we can muster

And those 70 odd F-16 are designed to inflict so much damage to the IAF, that it's numerical superiority will be of little consequence. PAF will no longer fight with one hand tied.
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Leading from the front. Albeit an older image, it shows, Top-Gun pilot WC Tariq Zia. who had the max no. of kills during ISAC'07 when he was OC 9 himself and was declared Sher-Afghan about to go on a strike mission against terrorist. Note the bomb load on the F-16.

@Hodor @MastanKhan @Taimoor Khan @HRK @TOPGUN @Stealth @TOPGUN

 

[Talon]

And those 70 odd F-16 are designed to inflict so much damage to the IAF, that it's numerical superiority will be of little consequence. PAF will no longer fight with one hand tied.
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Leading from the front. Albeit an older image, it shows, Top-Gun pilot WC Tariq Zia. who had the max no. of kills during ISAC'07 when he was OC 9 himself and was declared Sher-Afghan about to go on a strike mission against terrorist. Note the bomb load on the F-16.

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@Hodor @MastanKhan @Taimoor Khan @HRK @TOPGUN @Stealth @TOPGUN

During early days of terrorism,many F16 pilots resigned and denied to bomb the terrorists as they were confused who is right and who is wrong..these days everyone wishes to bomb them.

 

[Windjammer]

During early days of terrorism,many F16 pilots resigned and denied to bomb the terrorists as they were confused who is right and who is wrong..these days everyone wishes to bomb them.

The APS was the last straw for many.

 

[MastanKhan]

During early days of terrorism,many F16 pilots resigned and denied to bomb the terrorists as they were confused who is right and who is wrong..these days everyone wishes to bomb them.

Hi,

That is a shame---.

 

[Raider 21]

And those 70 odd F-16 are designed to inflict so much damage to the IAF, that it's numerical superiority will be of little consequence. PAF will no longer fight with one hand tied.
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Leading from the front. Albeit an older image, it shows, Top-Gun pilot WC Tariq Zia. who had the max no. of kills during ISAC'07 when he was OC 9 himself and was declared Sher-Afghan about to go on a strike mission against terrorist. Note the bomb load on the F-16.

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@Hodor @MastanKhan @Taimoor Khan @HRK @TOPGUN @Stealth @TOPGUN

An excellent leader and a keen flier. He led the Viper group for an exercise at Turkey in 2007. Most of his squadron pilots back then were selected to form the initial cadre of instructors on the JF-17 when it was inducted at Peshawar AB.

 

[Talon]

Hi,

That is a shame---.

Indeed..

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Easily the best plane in pak air power.

Paf will stay in fight against over four hundred too notch fighters like mki rafale mirage2000. And mig29K as long as your f16 are flying.

India will look to break the fleet of 73 falcons first .the Indians are fully aware take the f16 and the backbone of your air force is broken.

We will come after those falcons with everything we can muster

Another decade until IAF gets its hands on Rafails and other then that, IAF needs to master the Art of taking off without crashing then it should dream about taking on PAF. buzz off

 

[MastanKhan]

" During early days of terrorism,many F16 pilots resigned and denied to bomb the terrorists as they were confused who is right and who is wrong..these days everyone wishes to bomb them ".

Hi,

So---basically---PAF had traitors in their ranks all the time---.

Since when does it becomes the CHOICE of a pilot to declare " who is right and who is wrong "----.

This means that there is a major major flaw in the PAF's training---.

He should have thought about it before joining---.

These traitors should have been executed---their properties confiscated---.

WTF does this mean---war starts---the person that I have spent millions to train for years says---he does not want to fight---rip him apart---.

 

[CombatSurgeon]

" During early days of terrorism,many F16 pilots resigned and denied to bomb the terrorists as they were confused who is right and who is wrong..these days everyone wishes to bomb them ".

Hi,

So---basically---PAF had traitors in their ranks all the time---.

Since when does it becomes the CHOICE of a pilot to declare " who is right and who is wrong "----.

This means that there is a major major flaw in the PAF's training---.

He should have thought about it before joining---.

These traitors should have been executed---their properties confiscated---.

WTF does this mean---war starts---the person that I have spent millions to train for years says---he does not want to fight---rip him apart---.

Sir, my thoughts exactly. However, at that stage PAF bosses were worried any disciplinary action more than quiet dismissals would result in such scumbags or their unidentified peers/friends joining the Taliban or worse i.e getting cherry picked by the RAW for valuable info. Many of these 'assholes' had too much in their brains, had been on nuke alert duties across the country, knew the in and out of everything!

 

[Maxpane]

During early days of terrorism,many F16 pilots resigned and denied to bomb the terrorists as they were confused who is right and who is wrong..these days everyone wishes to bomb them.

thats alarming situation . next time they will denied to fight against america or other country. soldier duty to do job not asking question

 

[khanasifm]

$2.4 million for additional 4000 hours life taking it to 2050ish

https://www.afmc.af.mil/News/Articl...-a-great-deal-for-department-of-defense-taxp/

 

[JPMM]

$2.4 million for additional 4000 hours life taking it to 2050ish

https://www.afmc.af.mil/News/Articl...-a-great-deal-for-department-of-defense-taxp/

Thats right, Portuguese Air Force have allready confirmed this together with F16V upgrade, they said its 10% of the cost of bying new aircraft (F35)
Thanks

 

[blain2]

" During early days of terrorism,many F16 pilots resigned and denied to bomb the terrorists as they were confused who is right and who is wrong..these days everyone wishes to bomb them ".

Hi,

So---basically---PAF had traitors in their ranks all the time---.

Since when does it becomes the CHOICE of a pilot to declare " who is right and who is wrong "----.

This means that there is a major major flaw in the PAF's training---.

He should have thought about it before joining---.

These traitors should have been executed---their properties confiscated---.

WTF does this mean---war starts---the person that I have spent millions to train for years says---he does not want to fight---rip him apart---.

Do you understand the term "conscientious objector"? It is the right of every man and woman in uniform under the universal declaration of human rights to dissociate themselves from orders they believe violate their own morals or ethics.

In such situations, what you think is right matters little to the one objecting. Its actually a sign of a health society to have such people and not a room full of zombies. If we did not have such people then our own military would have been guilty of shooting unarmed protestors during the MRD movement and there are countless other examples of officers selflessly not obeying what they perceived to be illegal command.

That they get a court martial for objecting is how the military resolves this issue but the right to object (wrongful commands and not out of sheer cowardice) remains with each and every individual in uniform.