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Do you have any idea what is the total number of hindu in bangladesh ... so check the fact before posting crap like this.... christian in india is very small... but still there was riot between hindu and christian in india... so instead of giving lame excuse see your own face in the mirror before posting any crap...

N provide credible details that hindu in bangladesh are persecuted... there are mushrooms of human right group ... many of them run under political consideration... so provide credible human right group...report and detail... hindu in bangladesh enjoy couple of time more freedom than muslim in India... n stop this bs after coming of AL hindus status has been raised... it is just showing your mental illness and having not any knowledge about bangladesh...

What's the point of this rant in SMS language and weird punctuation?

Note, I said minorities, not Hindus.

Here is the report.


USCIRF Annual Report 2006 - Bangladesh

Title USCIRF Annual Report 2006 - Bangladesh
Publisher United States Commission on International Religious Freedom
Country Bangladesh
Publication Date 1 May 2006
Cite as United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, USCIRF Annual Report 2006 - Bangladesh, 1 May 2006, available at: UNHCR | Refworld | USCIRF Annual Report 2006 - Bangladesh [accessed 12 January 2011]
During the past year, Bangladesh has seen an escalation both in violence attributed to Islamic militants and in countermeasures undertaken by the government of Bangladesh. In February-March 2006, the Commission visited Bangladesh, where it examined reports that the targets of militant attacks have included Bangladesh's judicial system, individuals who oppose extremist interpretations of Islam or who have espoused controversial views on religious subjects, members of religious minorities, and non-governmental organizations (NGOs). Although Bangladesh is a functioning democracy, religious extremism and chronic political violence continue to undermine the institutions that protect religious freedom and to silence the country's voices of religious tolerance and moderation. Left unchecked, current trends toward greater intolerance and religiously-motivated violence, particularly toward Ahmadis, Hindus, and Christians, could have an increasingly negative impact on all Bangladeshis. The Commission continues to place Bangladesh on its Watch List.

Since 1991, notwithstanding relatively difficult economic conditions, Bangladesh has had a representative government, regular changes of power through free elections, a judiciary that sometimes rules against those in authority, a lively press often critical of government policies, active participation of women in the workplace, and a functioning civil society with active human rights groups, women's organizations, and numerous NGOs. The democratically-elected governments that have held office since 1991 have, however, left untouched and in some cases furthered the more strident Islamic elements introduced in the constitution by previous military regimes.

Following independence from Pakistan in 1971, Bangladesh was established as a secular state in which national identity was based on Bengali language and culture, rather than on the Islamic religion, as in Pakistan. The constitution contains strongly worded guarantees of freedom of religious belief and practice, as well as equal treatment by the government for citizens regardless of religious affiliation. Subsequent military regimes amended the constitution, however, to introduce Islamic elements, including the affirmation that "absolute trust and faith in Allah" is to "be the basis for all actions" by the government. Although not judicially enforceable, this change in the constitution has been cited by minority rights advocates as diminishing the status of non-Muslims as equal members of Bangladeshi society. Islam was made Bangladesh's state religion in 1988 under the military dictatorship of H.M. Ershad.

Aided by the expansion of Islamic schools (madrassas), charities, and other social welfare institutions, some receiving foreign funding, Islamic activists have gained in political, economic, and social influence in Bangladesh in recent years. Explicitly Islamic parties, including Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, helped the center-right Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) win the last national election in October 2001 and have allegedly used their positions in the current BNP-led government to favor Islamic organizations and to deny funding to or otherwise disadvantage groups viewed as opposing an Islamist political and social agenda. Although many of those who call for a more Islamist Bangladesh have been engaged in peaceful political and social activities, others, drawing inspiration from extremist movements elsewhere in the Islamic world have adopted a jihadist ideology of violent struggle against perceived opponents of Islam.

The most serious episode of anti-minority violence followed the October 2001 elections. At that time, there were numerous reports of killings, sexual assaults, illegal land-seizures, arson, extortion, and intimidation of religious minority group members, particularly Hindus, perceived as favoring the BNP's main rival, the Awami League. Minority group representatives and human rights groups ascribed these attacks to religious extremists or to partisans of the BNP and its Islamist allies. The continued lack of accountability for the violence in 2001 raises serious concerns about an atmosphere of impunity for such crimes, as well as the possibility of a renewal of violence against Hindus and members of other religious minorities in the next general election, expected in early 2007. Some human rights activists and minority advocates also have voiced serious concerns that manipulation of the voting rolls to specifically exclude or burden persons with names associated with religious minority communities, coupled with active voter intimidation, may keep religious minorities from exercising their right to vote.

Although reports of anti-minority violence have dropped off sharply since the 2001 election, Hindus, Christians, and representatives of other minority religious communities continue to express concerns regarding the safety of their coreligionists, citing the growth in Islamic radicalism and instances of violence, including fatalities, in which the victims' religious affiliation or activities may have been factors. In June 2005, there were arson or bombing attacks against Ahmadi mosques in three locations. In July 2005, two Bangladeshis working for a Christian NGO were murdered, allegedly because of showing a film on the life of Jesus. As of this writing, there have been no charges brought in this case or in the murder in September 2004 of a locally prominent Christian convert from Islam. The Commission was told on its visit to Bangladesh that because of the atmosphere of uncertainty and fear under which religious minorities must live, Hindus have left Bangladesh in large numbers in the past three decades.

Bangladesh's high levels of political violence and instability have also provided opportunities for religious and other extremists to expand their influence. Due to a weak legal system and corrupt law enforcement, gangs employed by politicians engage in criminal activities with relative impunity. Armed groups of Islamist vigilantes and leftist guerrillas terrorize remote rural areas. Authors, journalists, and academics expressing opinions allegedly offensive to certain interpretations of Islam are subject to violent, sometimes fatal, attacks. Extremists oppose NGOs that promote the economic betterment of women and protection for women's rights. Some such organizations have been bombed, presumably by these extremists.

Although Bangladesh has the unusual distinction of having both its major parties, the BNP and the Awami League, led by women, both of whom have served as Prime Minister, religious extremism, mostly among Muslims, victimizes Bangladeshi women of all faiths. Some Muslim clerics, especially in rural areas, have sanctioned vigilante punishments against women for alleged moral transgressions. Rape is reportedly a common form of anti-minority violence. The government often fails to punish the perpetrators of these acts against women, as the law enforcement and the judicial systems, especially at the local level, are vulnerable to corruption, intimidation, and political interference. Some women's activists have accused the current government of backsliding on the strong stance on women's rights set forth in the 1997 version of the National Policy for the Advancement of Women.

Politically-motivated bombings, assassinations, and other terrorist acts, often ascribed to Islamic militants, have exacerbated partisan tensions and increased the vulnerability of minority communities. In August 2004 and January 2005, such attacks resulted in the deaths of prominent opposition political figures. In February 2005, the government banned two Islamic militant groups implicated in a series of bomb attacks on NGOs. Islamic militants have been blamed for a coordinated wave of almost simultaneous bomb attacks, numbering in the hundreds, carried out in all but one of Bangladesh's 64 districts on August 17, 2005. Militants were also implicated in a series of bomb attacks on the judicial system in October-November 2005. The bomb attacks were accompanied by calls by the militants for the substitution of sharia, or Islamic law, for Bangladesh's current system of secular jurisprudence and by threats against courts and judges for not applying sharia. The government responded with a campaign of arrests of militants suspected of involvement in the bombings and in other violence incidents. In March 2006, 21 suspected militants were sentenced to death for the August 17 bombings. In a separate case, it was announced on the same day that a suspect was sentenced to death for killing a Hindu judge (one of the very few Hindu judges in Bangladeshi society), in an October 2005 bombing. Reputed senior militant leaders are among those arrested, including Siddiqul Islam, better known as "Bangla Bhai," and Sheikh Abdur Rahman.

In addition to these security measures, the government has spoken out against the militants. To a national conference of imams in November 2005, Prime Minister Khaleda Zia denounced those who were "trying to establish a reign of terror and turmoil" in the name of Islam. At a national conference on "interfaith harmony" in February 2006, the Prime Minister declared her government to be "dead against the practice of any discrimination on the basis of religious identity." Similarly, the Religious Affairs Ministry arranged public activities against Islamic militancy in conjunction with the 35th anniversary of Bangladesh's independence on March 26, 2006.

Despite constitutional protections, non-Muslims in Bangladesh face societal discrimination and are disadvantaged in access to government jobs, public services, and the legal system. They are also underrepresented in elected political offices, including the national parliament. Minority group advocates claim that religion plays a role in property and land disputes, pointing to expropriations of Hindu property since the Pakistan era and the gradual displacement of non-Muslim tribal populations by Bengali Muslims in the Chittagong Hill Tracts and other traditionally tribal areas. Such disputes occasionally result in violence.

Islamic extremists in Bangladesh have engaged in a public campaign against the Ahmadi community, which is viewed as heretical by many Muslims. The Ahmadis, also referred to as Ahmadiyya, are a relatively small group in Bangladesh, estimated at 100,000 persons in a population of over 140 million. Anti-Ahmadi demonstrators have called on the government of Bangladesh to declare Ahmadis to be "non-Muslims," as has been done in Pakistan, and as has been used in Pakistan to justify a range of legal limitations on the Ahmadi community and individual Ahmadis. The demonstrators have also called for curbs on Ahmadi missionary outreach to the broader Muslim community. Although the government of Bangladesh has thus far refused to declare Ahmadis to be non-Muslims, in January 2004, it bent to militant pressure and banned the publication and distribution of Ahmadi religious literature. Police seized Ahmadi publications on a few occasions. The ban was stayed by the courts in December 2004, with further legal action still pending. Although the ban is not currently being enforced, it has not been withdrawn by the government.

Anti-Ahmadi activists have been organized under the banner of a group known as the International Khatme Nabuwat Movement Bangladesh. ("Khatme Nabuwat" is an Arabic phrase meaning "finality of the Prophethood" of Mohammed.) There is reportedly a significant overlap of membership between this organization and Jamaat-e-Islami and other Islamic political parties. Anti-Ahmadi activists object to Ahmadi houses of worship being called "mosques" and on a number of occasions have organized mass demonstrations against Ahmadi mosques, have attempted to occupy the sites, and have forcibly replaced signs identifying Ahmadi places of worship as mosques, sometimes with the assistance of the police. In some instances, the anti-Ahmadi agitation has been accompanied by mob violence in which Ahmadi homes have been destroyed and Ahmadi converts held against their will and pressured to recant. Although the campaign against the Ahmadis has continued, the violence has diminished in recent months due to improved and more vigorous police protection for the Ahmadis.

The Commission visited Bangladesh February 26-March 2, 2006 at the invitation of the government of Bangladesh. The Commission delegation met with a broad range of individuals, including government officials, political leaders, human rights monitors, journalists, women's rights advocates, Muslim religious leaders, leading members of Ahmadi, Hindu, Buddhist, and Christian communities, and civil society representatives. The government of Bangladesh cooperated with the visit and received the delegation at a high level, including individual meetings with four members of the Cabinet: the Foreign Minister; the Minister for Law, Justice, and Parliamentary Affairs; the Minister of Education; and the Minister of Industries, the last mentioned being the head of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh. The delegation also met with the Minister of State for Religious Affairs and with the Secretary for Home Affairs, whose responsibilities include law enforcement.

The Commission has met on a number of occasions with human rights monitors, representatives of religious communities, Bangladeshi diplomats, and others to discuss religious freedom in Bangladesh. In April 2004, the Commission, together with Congressman Joseph Crowley, a member of the House Committee on International Relations, held a public hearing at the City University of New York (CUNY) School of Law at Queens College in Flushing, New York, on "Bangladesh: Protecting the Human Rights of Thought, Conscience, and Religion."

With regard to Bangladesh, the Commission recommends that the U.S. government should urge the government of Bangladesh to:

uphold Bangladesh's international obligations and constitutional guarantees of freedom of thought, conscience, and religion or belief, as well as of equal treatment for all citizens regardless of religious affiliation or belief;
prosecute to the fullest extent of the law perpetrators of violent acts against members of minority religious communities, non-governmental organizations (NGOs) promoting women's rights, and all those who oppose religious extremism;
cancel its January 2004 order banning publications by the Ahmadi religious community, continue to reject extremist demands to declare Ahmadis to be non-Muslims, and protect the places of worship, persons, and property of members of this religious community on an equal basis with all Bangladeshi citizens;
ensure that the voting rights of all Bangladeshis are safeguarded in the next national elections, that those elections are free and fair, that they are conducted with voting rolls that do not discriminate on the basis of perceived religious affiliation or ethnic background, and that the elections are not marred by violence, particularly violence targeting members of religious minority communities; permit international and domestic monitoring of the entire electoral process, including preparation of the voting rolls;
ensure that decisions on public employment in national institutions such as the civil service, the military, law enforcement agencies, and the judiciary, including at the highest levels, do not discriminate on the basis of religious affiliation, belief, or ethnic background;
ensure that publicly-funded support for domestic faith-based charitable, humanitarian, developmental, or educational activities be on a non-discriminatory basis;
permit NGOs to conduct legitimate humanitarian and developmental activities without harassment, undue interference, or discrimination; protect NGOs from extremist violence and vigorously prosecute and punish the perpetrators of such violence;
strengthen efforts to protect women from vigilante or anti-minority violence; combat claims of religious sanction or justification for violence against women; vigorously prosecute the perpetrators of such violence; and
undertake a comprehensive review, in collaboration with civil society and independent international experts, to bring domestic legislation and government regulations affecting women's rights into compliance with international standards and Bangladesh's international human rights obligations.
 
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Do you have any idea what is the total number of hindu in bangladesh

Well ill-informed people like me can always use google.

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Really impressed by your example of hindu persecution... I think all news has fall short that leads you to give a literature/novel by a bigot lady as the source of hindu persecution in bd... provide credible reference... If you want I can give you 100s of example and news for the persecution of the muslim and christian in india...

Oh yes.. she just made this up? hundreds of thousands of Hindus were slaughtered during your country's formation and none of you eve care about it. that because they are Hindus! I have seen the bigoted views of your fellow BD members in this very forum towards Hindus and your open resentment towards BD becoming a secular country.
And wait.. what was your reply to illegal BD immigrants in India? You said there were all Hindus. Does that change their BD identity? Or is it that they are Hindus after all you you don't care?
 
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Well ill-informed people like me can always use google.

8N02

Hindu people declined for various reason... due to low birth rate... not retuning from India after 1971 war... and luring by indian radical hindu politician to go to India for religious and economical reason... so where did you get the persecution type blah blah blah.... N in your report how many incident has been reported... not even 10... n they gave example of murder of hindu judge... was he murder because of being hindu or any other reason??? They also say some numerous complaint ... but did they check the credibility.. and regarding land grabbing and extortion ... is it happen only to hindu... it happen all across Bangladesh... regarding sexual assault it does not also happen to hindu only ... it happens all across bd... so eve teasing law had to implement...

So posting only some here and there issue does not prove that hindu are persecuted... the way Muslim and christians are persecuted in india... no riot like orissa and gujrat happen in bd and no ranting against hindus happen in bd like it happen in India ... specially by the main line indian hindu politicians...
 
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Oh yes.. she just made this up? hundreds of thousands of Hindus were slaughtered during your country's formation and none of you eve care about it. that because they are Hindus! I have seen the bigoted views of your fellow BD members in this very forum towards Hindus and your open resentment towards BD becoming a secular country.
And wait.. what was your reply to illegal BD immigrants in India? You said there were all Hindus. Does that change their BD identity? Or is it that they are Hindus after all you you don't care?

if any hindus were murdered during lebaration war... was it done by bangladeshi people... stop posting such crap... and accept the real fact minorities christian and muslim are regularly persecuted and discriminated in India... n the result is communal riot and mass murder like that happened in orissa and gujrat...
 
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Hindu people declined for various reason... due to low birth rate... not retuning from India after 1971 war... and luring by indian radical hindu politician to go to India for religious and economical reason... so where did you get the persecution type blah blah blah.... N in your report how many incident has been reported... not even 10... n they gave example of murder of hindu judge... was he murder because of being hindu or any other reason??? They also say some numerous complaint ... but did they check the credibility.. and regarding land grabbing and extortion ... is it happen only to hindu... it happen all across Bangladesh... regarding sexual assault it does not also happen to hindu only ... it happens all across bd... so eve teasing law had to implement...

So posting only some here and there issue does not prove that hindu are persecuted... the way Muslim and christians are persecuted in india... no riot like orissa and gujrat happen in bd and no ranting against hindus happen in bd like it happen in India ... specially by the main line indian hindu politicians...

I'd sure like to meet the Indian politician err "luring" Hindu Bangladeshis to India - can you point me toward one?
 
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if any hindus were murdered during lebaration war... was it done by bangladeshi people... stop posting such crap... and accept the real fact minorities christian and muslim are regularly persecuted and discriminated in India... n the result is communal riot and mass murder like that happened in orissa and gujrat...

Muslims are definitely persecuted in India, I don't doubt that for one second. However, it would be wrong to say Christians are persecuted on a societal level nation-wide - some instances like Orissa have taken place but it is not a major problem.
 
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if any hindus were murdered during lebaration war... was it done by bangladeshi people... stop posting such crap... and accept the real fact minorities christian and muslim are regularly persecuted and discriminated in India... n the result is communal riot and mass murder like that happened in orissa and gujrat...

We will have friction between our communities,but none of these have resulted in lowering of their population.
 
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I'd sure like to meet the Indian politician err "luring" Hindu Bangladeshis to India - can you point me toward one?

Read this article itself... it is indirect invitation to go to india saying they are persecuted... have some brain... if that is not the case then how come your politician is asking to make them Indian citizenship and how come a huge chunk of hindu able to stay in India after 1971 war... every politicians of all group knowingly let this happen...
 
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its an age old post why's everyone diggin it suddenly?
 
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Read this article itself... it is indirect invitation to go to india saying they are persecuted... have some brain... if that is not the case then how come your politician is asking to make them Indian citizenship and how come a huge chunk of hindu able to stay in India after 1971 war... every politicians of all group knowingly let this happen...

Check my previous posts to know the reason of lowering the number of hindu population in bangladesh...
 
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Hindu people declined for various reason... due to low birth rate... not retuning from India after 1971 war... and luring by indian radical hindu politician to go to India for religious and economical reason... so where did you get the persecution type blah blah blah.... N in your report how many incident has been reported... not even 10... n they gave example of murder of hindu judge... was he murder because of being hindu or any other reason??? They also say some numerous complaint ... but did they check the credibility.. and regarding land grabbing and extortion ... is it happen only to hindu... it happen all across Bangladesh... regarding sexual assault it does not also happen to hindu only ... it happens all across bd... so eve teasing law had to implement...

So posting only some here and there issue does not prove that hindu are persecuted... the way Muslim and christians are persecuted in india... no riot like orissa and gujrat happen in bd and no ranting against hindus happen in bd like it happen in India ... specially by the main line indian hindu politicians...

I'm not sure of the tall claim I made about India and minorities, would be thankful if you can point it out.

I do not know any Bangladeshi, Hindu or Muslim, or have enquired myself about the incidents; so I'd have to believe UNHCR report in absence of any other alternative.

The statistic shows a gradual decline of Hindus in Bangladesh, pre and post 71. Birthrate of Bangladesh is 2.1, which is pretty normal both for Hindus and Muslims.
 
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Read this article itself... it is indirect invitation to go to india saying they are persecuted... have some brain... if that is not the case then how come your politician is asking to make them Indian citizenship and how come a huge chunk of hindu able to stay in India after 1971 war... every politicians of all group knowingly let this happen...

Indirect invitation?????? :yahoo:

He is asking them to be given citizenship if they have already illegally immigrated. He is not inviting Hindus to enter India - there is a major difference. Perhaps you had trouble understanding what was written. Read it again.
 
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I'm not sure of the tall claim I made about India and minorities, would be thankful if you can point it out.

I do not know any Bangladeshi, Hindu or Muslim, or have enquired myself about the incidents; so I'd have to believe what UNHCR report in absence of any other alternative.

The statistics shows a gradual decline of Hindus in Bangladesh, pre and post 71. Birthrate of Bangladesh is 2.1, which is pretty normal both for Hindus and Muslims.

Look at the decline pattern....

1961 22%
1974 13.5%

As many hindu did not return from India...

2009 9.5%

This is mostly due to low birth rate... not a big deal if you take in to account the 40 year time line...

So check facts before posting crap...
 
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Indirect invitation?????? :yahoo:

He is asking them to be given citizenship if they have already illegally immigrated. He is not inviting Hindus to enter India - there is a major difference. Perhaps you had trouble understanding what was written. Read it again.

After liberation war no major migration happened... see the stat posted by abir.... but saying if hindu is persecuted he can be given citizenship... it is keeping the room for future citizenship of the hindu with the banner of persecution...
 
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