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Enough with this negative, pessimistic thinking!

I agree, minhasul quom Pakistani are corrupt. BUT what is the corruption of the average mahjay, gamay and chehday in comparison to the big fairon at the top. its not the average mahjay, gamay or chehday that brought ruins to Pakistan.
ہمارے پنڈ کا نمبردار باجوے سے زیادہ سمارٹ ایماندار اور ملک ، قوم کا وفادار تھا ۔ عمر میں وہ بھی باجوے جتنا ہی تھا کم و بیش ۔
 
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I agree, minhasul quom Pakistani are corrupt. BUT what is the corruption of the average mahjay, gamay and chehday in comparison to the big fairon at the top. its not the average mahjay, gamay or chehday that brought ruins to Pakistan.
On the contrary, it is the average person's behaviour that determines the fate of a nation.
 
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On the contrary, it is the average person's behaviour that determines the fate of a nation.
From day one the establishment has been choosing these compromised leaders to govern us, who then come and destroy our institutes to support their corrupt practices and also by nepotism. That's one of the main reason we have this awam where it is today.
 
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From day one the establishment has been choosing these compromised leaders to govern us, who then come and destroy our institutes to support their corrupt practices and also by nepotism. That's one of the main reason we have this awam where it is today.
In 2008 whole baluchistan was turned in to Area A by musharaf/pmlq....but raisani went on protest and together with zardari got it overturned back to Area B... . you have any idea how area A could have changed baluchistan ..no you don't... the example was just given to tell you .. not everything happens as per establishment say in baluchistan ..
Another example.
Musharaf wanted some other things to happen including kalabagh dam.. the local political pressures averted .. so get a sense of reality.

Establishment doesn't control every cog in the state machinery.
 
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In 2008 whole baluchistan was turned in to Area A by musharaf/pmlq....but raisani went on protest and together with zardari got it overturned back to Area B... . you have any idea how area A could have changed baluchistan ..no you don't... the example was just given to tell you .. not everything happens as per establishment say in baluchistan ..
Another example.
Musharaf wanted some other things to happen including kalabagh dam.. the local political pressures averted .. so get a sense of reality.

Establishment doesn't control every cog in the state machinery.

Court houses open at 2 am and awam being kidnapped was ordered by who? Jin Baba?

:lol:

Again, you are insulting the intelligence of all the members here.
 
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Court houses open at 2 am and awam being kidnapped was ordered by who? Jin Baba?

:lol:

Again, you are insulting the intelligence of all the members here.
Courts opened midnight on orders of SCBA because of the instilled fear in supreme court bar association that Imran would kick bajwa get new chief and have him impose emergency to get rid of vonc.
It was more of a fear to save their constitution mafia judges.
 
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Courts opened midnight on orders of SCBA because of the instilled fear in supreme court bar association that Imran would kick bajwa get new chief and have him impose emergency to get rid of vonc.
It was more of a fear to save their constitution mafia judges.

:lol:

SC is a champion of law and order. Under whose pressure were they scrambling? Law or Jin Baba?
 
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Courts opened midnight on orders of SCBA because of the instilled fear in supreme court bar association that Imran would kick bajwa get new chief and have him impose emergency to get rid of vonc.
It was more of a fear to save their constitution mafia judges.
#BajwaDidNothingWrong
 
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In 2008 whole baluchistan was turned in to Area A by musharaf/pmlq....but raisani went on protest and together with zardari got it overturned back to Area B... . you have any idea how area A could have changed baluchistan ..no you don't... the example was just given to tell you .. not everything happens as per establishment say in baluchistan ..
Another example.
Musharaf wanted some other things to happen including kalabagh dam.. the local political pressures averted .. so get a sense of reality.

Establishment doesn't control every cog in the state machinery.
War of terror, drone attacks and attack on Jamia Hafsa were all massively unpopular and politically inconvenient, yet Mushy was such a maverick in those scenarios, why?

And why not a Maverick in building Kalabagh dam?
 
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Also don't forget, the same awam will vote in Zardari-Fake-Bhutto and the Sharif mafia into power again and again,
No body brought them into power but Zia and Mushi. Gave them NROs and respective regions to loot and plunder. Who revived MQM in Karachi? and let all police officers killed by MQM assailants? who were involved in 92 ops?

Sure, the average Pakistani is criminal, corrupt etc. Whose responsibility is to keep them in check? to educate them? it is of the Govt.

Nonetheless, govt officers get perks, status and high salaries just because they mustn't do corruption, and so to serve the country better.
 
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