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Elon Musk suggests making Taiwan a ‘special administrative zone’ similar to Hong Kong

It has to be decided by the whole of 1.4 billion chinese including taiwanese. Self determination as stipulated in UN charter here doesnt apply to taiwan since it is not a colony of china, but part of china both historically and legally.
Exactly. Taiwan is owned by all Chinese. Not by residents in the island. Territory is common property. It can't be owned by those who are using it. Taiwan is a reward for China's millions of lives sacrifice in world war 2. Taiwanese were accomplices of Japan Empire back then.
 
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Elon Musk is willing to force the Americans suk a fat cuck in order to please their rivals but here is the thing if you surrender Ukraine and Taiwan that is not enough for Russia and China... As a matter fact nothing is.... Except if you Elon Musk can de-nuclearize the US and handover world hegemony to them and withdraw from all the military bases surrounding them in Japan, SK, the baltics, poland etc etc

NEW WORLD ORDER that is what it is all about at the end of the day... They believe it is time for the world to move in a different direction
 
Exactly. Taiwan is owned by all Chinese. Not by residents in the island. Territory is common property. It can't be own by those who are using it. Taiwan is a reward for China's millions of lives sacrifice in world war 2. Taiwanese were accomplices of Japan Empire back then.
Its the same with US, America wont let California or Texas go independent as people there wish, they will be crushed by the US army if they dare to break away as the Yankees did in the American civil war. Americans and Europeans are just hypocrites when it comes to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of China or others other than their own. Plus, Chinese paid over 25 million lives in WW II to get Taiwan back from imperial Japan, anybody can bet that China will not give up its island Taiwan.
 
Do Taiwanese have a say in that or are they just unfortunate passengers on a boat?

What kind of "says" you are expecting, when Taiwan is dominated by anti -China media.

Let Chinese media dominate the US for 10 years and i guess 70 - 80% of American population will vote to join China.

Average citizens anywhere in the world can easily be manipulated by media, except a very small group who know and understand deeply about politics. The most dangerous action of any government is to let the mass to decide the way to go of the country, especially when the mass is not so smart and the country is in a critical condition.
 
1Country 2 System .That's fair but US has been funding & cultivating political entities to oppose this very System so that taiwan remains anti china and a pawn for US .
 
Do Taiwanese have a say in that or are they just unfortunate passengers on a boat?
Do Beijingers have a say on whether they can be independent? No, cause Beijing is just Chinese city, do Haidianers have a say on whether we can be independent? No, because Haidian is just a district of Beijing.
 
It has to be decided by the whole of 1.4 billion chinese including taiwanese. Self determination as stipulated in UN charter here doesnt apply to taiwan since it is not a colony of china, but part of china both historically and legally.
Since when did the communist party ever give 1.4 billion Chinese a vote or a choice in anything?
And Legally Taiwan is already China, it's the oldest surviving China as the Republic of China and the communist have never conquered it. communists usurpers should vacate Bejing and give it back to the original republic.
 
Since when did the communist party ever give 1.4 billion Chinese a vote or a choice in anything?
And Legally Taiwan is already China, it's the oldest surviving China as the Republic of China and the communist have never conquered it. communists usurpers should vacate Bejing and give it back to the original republic.
China had numerous civil wars in her history, PRC and ROC's split was no difference, by your logic, ROC should've given Beijing to Qing dynasty and Qing dynasty should've returned the city to Ming Dynasty and it goes on and on.
 
China had numerous civil wars in her history, PRC and ROC's split was no difference, by your logic, ROC should've given Beijing to Qing dynasty and Qing dynasty should've returned the city to Ming Dynasty and it goes on and on.
I said "oldest surviving"
You need to go back to ESL school.
 
I said "oldest surviving"
You need to go back to ESL school.
They claimed so, but is not recognized by 99% of the world, you really should have studied Chinese history a bit, after demise of old Chinese dynasties, some local wordlards still held on to the previous dynasty titles for decades before finally being merged into the new dynasties, but they were never recognized as true dynasties in the history.
 
Since when did the communist party ever give 1.4 billion Chinese a vote or a choice in anything?
And Legally Taiwan is already China, it's the oldest surviving China as the Republic of China and the communist have never conquered it. communists usurpers should vacate Bejing and give it back to the original republic.
The representatives of the chinese people at the national congress will decide the matters as always. PRC is the legal state of whole of china now as recognized by the UN and nearly all countries in the world including your pakistan and canada. Dont talk to me nonsense here through your tinted American prism about chinese matters.
 
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