Elephant in the pakistan room!!

[KRAIT]

@Joe Shearer and @Bang Galore

Here comes segregating these Bajrang Dal goons by first creating a society that is ready to understand what they are.
They have got power and support of political parties and too many silent voices.

I think you all know about how VHP and Bajrang Dal is being controlled in Gujarat. Same thing is happening with Muslim extremists.

The case of Tamil Nadu and Kashmir clearly depicts the lack of political will. Unless we change the politics of the area as power lies in hand of politicians and administration, these extremists will get free hand.

Did I say that leave this Extremists alone and change people not to paint, live in fear ? No, I meant give the people a power through electing a leader who can take on these extremists. Don't give them fuel to mislead people.

Make them nobody, and soon you will see they will accept the reality.

 

[Bang Galore]

Do you think they might call us hypocrites?

...and they wouldn't always be wrong. Why else do all the chaps who kept up the hang Afzal Guru, hang Afzal Guru campaign go completely cold to the idea of justice being served in the Rajiv Gandhi & Beant Singh killers cases ? One rule for the goose and another for the gander......

 

[Joe Shearer]

well it's complicated , whom you going to ban ...Islamic scripture say Christen and Jews are pigs , quran say kill or convert idol worshiper . Islamic Scripture revolves around only two things . and their children recite this every day .....just imagine you recite you child that Jews and christen are pigs ! what they make forward in life ?

1.kuffurs 2. women(sex)

then what going to preach Islamic priest ? exactly what written in quran of course hate non-Muslims.

now will you ban Quran ???

It is not at all complicated.

If they libel, or slander someone outside their existing published religious works; if they preach hatred towards another community, or gender, or ethnicity; if they resort to violence; if they encourage others to resort to violence, arrest them, arraign them, try them and sentence them within a month.

There is a constituency that would be open to honest, comparative analysis in the full historical context of the zoo. Preferably, the wider zoo than just the subcontinent.

There are others who believe that fate has placed a cruel trick on them by having them born brown and Pakistani and that, by attacking Malsi and parroting the white man's words, they can pretend, for a while, to be white and sophisticated.



The constituency which believes that all Pakistan's ills are caused by Malsi and the Arabs, and that all would be heavenly if Malsi would just leave.

To quote, "it is extremely obvious that for Pak Zoo to live on, Malsi must depart."

The ills of Pakistan are no different than those in many other parts of the (developing) world, including parts where Malsi never set foot. Such simplistic analyses as in the OP do nothing to address the core issues, which are endemic to human nature, and instead offer trendy soundbites about politically acceptable scapegoats (Arabs, Malsi).

Makes perfect sense. I thought you were referring to Indians in general, which I would have objected to.

 

[doppelganger]

You can push back verbally, you cannot use force. You can paint a picture back, you cannot destroy somebody else's paintings.

It isn't difficult.

Sir, who decides the degree of response? Does the pot smoking artist ask the permission of us hindus before painting our goddesses nude? Does he ask us to arbitrate on which anatomical parts exposed is ok and which are not? Then why should we be held accountable to the degree of our response?

Let the law step in when it must. Til then both sides should explore their boundaries unfettered.

You can push back verbally, you cannot use force. You can paint a picture back, you cannot destroy somebody else's paintings.

It isn't difficult.

Sir, who decides the degree of response? Does the pot smoking artist ask the permission of us hindus before painting our goddesses nude? Does he ask us to arbitrate on which anatomical parts exposed is ok and which are not? Then why should we be held accountable to the degree of our response?

Let the law step in when it must. Til then both sides should explore their boundaries unfettered.

 

[Joe Shearer]

@Joe Shearer and @Bang Galore

Here comes segregating these Bajrang Dal goons by first creating a society that is ready to understand what they are.
They have got power and support of political parties and too many silent voices.

I think you all know about how VHP and Bajrang Dal is being controlled in Gujarat. Same thing is happening with Muslim extremists.

The case of Tamil Nadu and Kashmir clearly depicts the lack of political will. Unless we change the politics of the area as power lies in hand of politicians and administration, these extremists will get free hand.

Did I say that leave this Extremists alone and change people not to paint, live in fear ? No, I meant give the people a power through electing a leader who can take on these extremists. Don't give them fuel to mislead people.

Make them nobody, and soon you will see they will accept the reality.

So what else are we saying?

 

[KRAIT]

Surrender is neither ideal or practical.

@Joe Shearer @Bang Galore

Where did I say surrender to these extremists ? I hate these so called defenders of religion who bash couples on Valentine's day because its against Indian culture whereas they themselves do Eve Teasing.

With practicality I mean, create a solution which can be applied in step by step fashion. What you believe in about these extremists.

It starts with creating people mass who are ready to take these extremists and tell them enough is enough. For that we have to focus on people to raise their voice.

I was against Kashmiri girl Band issued fatwa, Kamal Hassan's movie, these paintings taken down, legendary painter M.F> Hussain sent on exile.

But to not let the history repeat itself, we have to push the administration not to bow down before these extremists.

 

[Voxx]

@Joe Shearer and @Bang Galore

Here comes segregating these Bajrang Dal goons by first creating a society that is ready to understand what they are.
They have got power and support of political parties and too many silent voices.

I think you all know about how VHP and Bajrang Dal is being controlled in Gujarat. Same thing is happening with Muslim extremists.

The case of Tamil Nadu and Kashmir clearly depicts the lack of political will. Unless we change the politics of the area as power lies in hand of politicians and administration, these extremists will get free hand.

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for some people Extremism is part of religion an culture . VHP. BJD are reflections . action gets reaction , EDL is latest example of it.

 

[MST]

Sir, who decides the degree of response? Does the pot smoking artist ask the permission of us hindus before painting our goddesses nude? Does he ask us to arbitrate on which anatomical parts exposed is ok and which are not? Then why should we be held accountable to the degree of our response?

Let the law step in when it must. Til then both sides should explore their boundaries unfettered.

Now whats wrong with Pot smoking. It already made legal in two US states and more are likely to follow. Please don't bring the innocent Pot in this stupid religious discussion.

 

[KRAIT]

@Joe Shearer Sir, I was just explaining that I agree with your points and I think you and Bang Galore took my words in other way.

I was having my lunch at this time, so I couldn't post entire POV of mine.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir, who decides the degree of response? Does the pot smoking artist ask the permission of us hindus before painting our goddesses nude? Does he ask us to arbitrate on which anatomical parts exposed is ok and which are not? Then why should we be held accountable to the degree of our response?

Let the law step in when it must. Til then both sides should explore their boundaries unfettered.



Sir, who decides the degree of response? Does the pot smoking artist ask the permission of us hindus before painting our goddesses nude? Does he ask us to arbitrate on which anatomical parts exposed is ok and which are not? Then why should we be held accountable to the degree of our response?

Let the law step in when it must. Til then both sides should explore their boundaries unfettered.

He doesn't need to. If you assault him or his exhibition, or his paintings, you should go to jail. The politicians are serving us badly by deflecting the police from their duty. If you had gone to jail for rioting, you probably would not riot ever again.

 

[jaibi]

The author is just pandering to a particular constituency -- on full display here. If he was interested in, or capable of, actual cultural analysis, this piece certainly doesn't show it.

Note that he does not examine the condition, and history of, the Hind Zoo when Malsi arrived. Examining the behavior of existing animals would lead into uncomfortable areas which would not be acceptable to his target audience. Hence the intellectual dishonesty.

Absolutely, I'm surprised why so many Indians have greeted the article with such enthusiasm. It reeks of prejudice.

 

[doppelganger]

Now whats wrong with Pot smoking. It already made legal in two US states and more are likely to follow. Please don't bring the innocent Pot in this stupid religious discussion.

Sir your lingam goes weak and soft. Then no yoni.

 

[JonAsad]

The author is a gnikcuf tnuc-

and indians here have a long history with Malsi- their joy is understandable-

 

[KRAIT]

for some people Extremism is part of religion an culture . VHP. BJD are reflections . action gets reaction , EDL is latest example of it.

VHP, BJD and EDL are products of Political Parties using Vote Bank Politics, Scared to take action against one group and allow extremism to build in society.

In West Bengal those Jamatis caused trouble, burnt down Hindu homes and all, and state govt. kept silent because of votes.

This gives support to organization like VHP BJD to retaliate in similar fashion. Hence you have riots.

Riots is just the result of Governmental failure for a long time which keeps heat to anger of the people.

 

[doppelganger]

If you had gone to jail for rioting, you probably would not riot ever again.

If pot smoking artist had his hands put through sugarcane juicer, he probably would not paint nude goddesses ever again either.